RedRamage Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago I don't think these guys could even cheat their way to a win right now. Quote
GalagaGuy Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 0-2 count and he goes with a batting practice pitch right down the middle. Quote
monkeytargets39 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Why wait till the deadline? Get a jump on it. Quote
UCFKNIGHT Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Most of you people, on this message board, disagree with the majority of my post, but Scott Harris and AJ Hinch should both be fired. The ownership and management of this team is disgusting? 1 Quote
chasfh Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Jansen has been actually pretty good lately. Not today. 0-2 pitch. one strike from a win, snatches defeat for the jaws of victory. Quote
NorthWoods Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I hate watching Jansen pitch. I'm so tired of the Tigers signing these overpriced old relievers then riding them into hell. 1 Quote
Sports_Freak Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said: Why wait till the deadline? Get a jump on it. Do you really think Harris will be making any deals? Seriously? Or just like me, wishful thinking? Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said: Why wait till the deadline? Get a jump on it. that's the conclusion I've come to. At this point everyday they wait value returned goes down, while the team just gets further behind anyway. Quote
UCFKNIGHT Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago I'm wondering if Kenley Jansen is on the take, much like Emmanuel Clase? Quote
papalawrence Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago In 1975 I was at loss #18 in a row mid August. I knew they were going to lose. I had a 2% reaction to this loss. No surprise at all. How many walk-off HR vs Jansen? Is that 4 now? Don't recall ever seeing this from a Detroit closer. Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago I feel like that just ended their season - and it's Memorial Day. Massive changes are needed. Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: Do you really think Harris will be making any deals? Seriously? Or just like me, wishful thinking? The only deal Harris should be making is the deal where he sells his house in the Detroit area and moves back to San Francisco. 1 Quote
Sports_Freak Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, UCFKNIGHT said: Most of you people, on this message board, disagree with the majority of my post, but Scott Harris and AJ Hinch should both be fired. The ownership and management of this team is disgusting? I agree, if Harris is unable to get anything from our pending free agents, he's useless. Its his job to make this team better and it was obvious last fall that we had serious problems scoring runs. So he goes out and spends millions of dollars on pitching. It didnt make much sense at the time and the results are now showing it was foolish. Counting on Tork, Javy and McKinstry to repeat very good years was unreasonable and it should have been obvious to the front office. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 9 minutes ago, UCFKNIGHT said: Most of you people, on this message board, disagree with the majority of my post, but Scott Harris and AJ Hinch should both be fired. The ownership and management of this team is disgusting? They are getting something out of Valdez, but Flaherty and Jansen have been mistakes. We can talk injuries all we want, but those two aren't getting their PT because other guys are injured. And Verlander? What can you say other than predictable outcome. Edited 1 hour ago by gehringer_2 Quote
monkeytargets39 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 7 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: that's the conclusion I've come to. At this point everyday they wait value returned goes down, while the team just gets further behind anyway. Everyone should be available except McGonigle and Dingler. I’d listen on Riley but only move him for a massive haul. Quote
chasfh Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 6 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: that's the conclusion I've come to. At this point everyday they wait value returned goes down, while the team just gets further behind anyway. If we go to the market selling now, we look desperate because we'd be selling everyone (except Riley) low. Plus, teams are not in a position to buy yet and don't even know what they need, and also, they feel no pressure to compete with other teams for us. This is a great recipe for bag-of-balls returns. 1 Quote
Sports_Freak Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 7 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: that's the conclusion I've come to. At this point everyday they wait value returned goes down, while the team just gets further behind anyway. I think trading a player on the injured list isn't allowed. Besides, wait for Skubal to get back to form, his value would be higher. Not that Harris will be dealing....he's busy looking over the waiver wire. Find some rejects to sign... Quote
monkeytargets39 Posted 59 minutes ago Posted 59 minutes ago We also need to talk about how Finnegan has more walks than Ks. And only 15 Ks in 24 innings as the set up guy but somehow only a 1.50 era. As soon as Jansen turns it around you know the metrics will catch up with Finnegan and offset it. Quote
NorthWoods Posted 59 minutes ago Posted 59 minutes ago Good thing we signed Jansen. Pitchers with 4 blown saves before June and a 5+ ERA aren't easy to find. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 59 minutes ago Posted 59 minutes ago (edited) 4 minutes ago, chasfh said: If we go to the market selling now, we look desperate because we'd be selling everyone (except Riley) low. Plus, teams are not in a position to buy yet and don't even know what they need, and also, they feel no pressure to compete with other teams for us. This is a great recipe for bag-of-balls returns. I've got news, we are desperate. Besides, giving yourself more time is never a bad negotiation strategy. Thing is, at this point I don't know if I want Harris making the deals. Edited 56 minutes ago by gehringer_2 Quote
monkeytargets39 Posted 58 minutes ago Posted 58 minutes ago Just now, Sports_Freak said: I think trading a player on the injured list isn't allowed. Besides, wait for Skubal to get back to form, his value would be higher. Not that Harris will be dealing....he's busy looking over the waiver wire. Find some rejects to sign... Doesn’t have to be Skubal that we deal now. Quote
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