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I think it is a definite idea worth looking at. However, Toronto is very RH right now - so they may need to make another move or two first... Yes, both a C (Jansen?) and Biggio could make sense for a Detroit package that might include a RP+ Hoy Park, though not a big time prospect, yet still young, LH and can play around the INF was just designated by Pit yesterday. He has OBA skills (noted for working the count), some power and speed. Wonder if they looked at Hunter Renfroe (Milw, RH OF power bat and decent D) before he was dealt to LAA? Seems may of been a possible Candy straight 1-1 deal for him as possible.
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I in fact do remember that. He got some time with another instructor (perhaps his personal instructor or a previous coach I thought I heard?). This is perhaps another part of it. The team has been losing for so long with many of the same faces and perhaps it might be best for both sides really. There are some options out there and I am sure they are looking at many things from signing a younger type vet ex ERios (or JVolser of SF AAA) or a mid age vet BAnderson to an older FA JTurner or ELongoria or even a deal for a vet to help another team trim salary (and we get a prospect to go along with) ex JDonaldson, ARendon, etc. It is obvious there will soon be some additions in the next 60 days or so. π Let us hope for a competitive team (+) once again. π
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Looking at some of the non-tenders, LAD Edwin Rios, 3B-1B, LH, age 28 might be worth a gamble. He was pretty steady in the minors, has some pop and a 'Corner Inf. that bats LH' which SHarris had mentioned... π€
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Agreed, you have to have it (pitching). I was thinking more along the lines 'if' a premium position prospect is available, and you have several P prospects, it might be an idea to package 'one' of them if that prospect is obtainable. In the end (another big inning :), all is a gamble. All any exec can do is to be open minded, have a strong staff behind them (data, analytics, eyeball test, history, etc.) and hope the dice rolls (and BB gods) favor your actions - more often that not π π π
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Cruzer you know your stuff... Yet, the problem with Ps is that they are IMHO 'very' volatile. Gone are the days of 3 (even 2) SPs pitching with 200 innings (maybe even 175) on a staff. Not long ago Boyd, Fullmer and Norris were envisioned to create a strong front 3 of the Tiger SP staff... Just recentley Mize, Skubal and Manning... You get the idea, and this goes for all teams. Of course this goes for position players as well (but maybe not to that extent because of injuries) - but if there is a chance to get an elite position prospect or two they might wish to consider it... I remember AA saying at one time other teams were calling on Boyd, Fullmer and Norris and he called them 'Gold' - perhaps calling a trio of SPs untouchable is more 'Fool's Gold' ?
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I do remember hearing about such rumblings as CFinley was supposedly quoted "The Night is still Young" after his first initial moves on that eve not in regards to VBlue.
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IMHO, this sounds and reads about right.
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Had also thought about it, have some exp with Podcasts and was looking to do something remotely (like many when the scenario hit a couple years ago). Even interviewed with a Co. out of Nevada that was recruiting for people who were enthusiastic about their particular MLB Teams. I went over it for almost an hour with the gentleman, he was good with me and the knowledge and interest of the Tigers I had (yet, no doubt there are several here with greater knowledge and some in specialized areas). Bottom line was it was a commitment and the time to put into it was more than one might think ex to make ex 1-2 shows a week, not a lot of guarantee for the efforts (paid for the amount of followers who would join a subscription to the overall network) and you basically were an independent contractor under the company (which I was ok with). Not sure where this co. is now with what they attempted to put together.
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I would tend to agree here... This is where the new regime, combined with perhaps what is left of the better part of the old, will come together and move forward with actually developing average and better than average MLB players for a sustainable period of time!
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I would tend to agree here. The Tigs more than likely spoke to him and maybe said something to the effect of 'We appreciate you and will give you every opportunity to seek a MLB deal - but if you do not find anything to your liking and a spot is still available (thinking 8-9 SPs) we will have a minor league deal for you.' With this type of scenario Hutchison gets a big head start and has somewhat of a fallback option (as will the Tigs have as well).
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10/03/2022 9:40 EDT Detroit Tigers at Seattle Mariners
alex replied to casimir's topic in Game Threads
Yes, have not heard that term in awhile - but, the game is 'much' different today. Long Gone (thanks Ernie) are the days of 3 SPs on a team with 200 IP during one season. Heck, look at the Tigers leading IP just this year. Sure one could say that is a fluke - but sooo many teams have succumbed to extensive injuries NOT just the Tigers - so perhaps this is not a fluke, but more a reality and the game/teams are adjusting. I heard David Cone on a recent broadcast state that teams now have to be 8-9+ SPs deep to get through a season and are beginning to realize this. The versatile SPs, ex Hutch, DNorris, BGarcia, etc. are going to have a place and the 'minor league' deal for a SP with experience may have to be adjusted. The player has to now realize just because they may not 'start' (SP) with a team out of ST or begin in the minors, they still have a good chance at starting several meaningful games. Sooner or later, IMHO, rosters need to be increased again or many more position players will be pitching in games as they did this year. I think Scott Harris is aware this is taking place and may have been ahead of the curve. Look at the 'dice roll' SP contracts that were signed this past off season by SF: CRodon, AWood, JJunis, SMiller, CMartinez, ACobb, etc. - to go along with their staff that ended 2021. "One man's junk/trash is another mans treasure." -
Tigers Hire Scott Harris as President of Baseball Operations
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It would seem this may be mostly a Chris I. decision. I would think there would be some sit downs with others (Scott H., A.J., etc.) of course. Yes, it seems Miggy does enjoy the comradery of the game. MLB would do best to increase rosters to 27 or 28, but that is not what this is about. It will be an interesting play out - but one would ask to look at Miggy's stats SINCE the ASG. How long would Miggy himself put up with that type of production, potential embarrassment, scoreboard sight, etc.? There might have to be some 'Farewell Tour' thought out - and that is not to mention the potential IL stints. Perhaps a combo assistant hitting coach / roster spot type of scenario 'could' be thought of. Scott Harris 'likes' a lot of coaching and specialization from what we have heard. It will be interesting - but the main job is to improve the team from all decision makers that are involved. -
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IMHO, Seattle would need more than one or both those players for Kelenic. I think because he was so highly rated prior and could/should still come around and that he costs next to nothing at this time are two good reasons for a higher demand. With said I am all for going after him. It would probably take a P prospect or two added to a package of either or both of the previous mentioned players. Regardless if we have a mostly LH outfield or not next season that could be 'balanced' out a bit with more with RH Inf's. I think a young player like Kelenic and another 'established bat' or two might be a good strategy to follow for position players this off season. -
IMHO, I do think he would be worth a waiver claim. He may benefit from a new organization and fresh start. Still two years before FA from what I understand. This is what needs to be done at times, not saying in particular with MAndujar, but to claim a guy who has had some success, is not too old, and maybe get him right again. With said I would be surprised if Oakland and/or Washington let him go by before we can make the claim.
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IMHO, MLB and the players union really need to look at roster spots once again. Everyone knows there are more injuries than ever before. We may never see 3 SPs on the same team pitch 200 innings again nor 7 starting position players on the same team start 150 games, etc. These two facts say it all. I hope to post something more to this subject at a later date. Just expand to 27 players at least. MLB is very slow in making changes. Much tradition and more is there. Hopefully they can figure this out as it 'may' allow for players to get a day or two off here and there more often that are nursing an injury and not have to go on the IL as often. Also, we are seeing more position players pitch than before. That is NOT quality baseball. We have to remember more teams have a chance at the post season now (a good change imho) - so a manager who is 2 games out of a wildcard spot, which may have been previously looked at differently because 10, 20 yrs ago the team may have been 12 games out in Sept. (and only a fight for for first place), is going to save his bullpen that night for the next game to better the teams chances of winning the next night. There is alot there, IMHO, to look seriously at roster expansion. -
Tigers Hire Scott Harris as President of Baseball Operations
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Looks good on the surface. Good baseball pedigree. Now hopefully Mr. Harris and the Tigers can move forward. Any news on any presser, time, etc.? -
You 'both' (casimir) were on it!
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Looks like Wilmer Flores may sign a two year ext with SF. Was thinking, along with others here, that he might be a fit. π€¨
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09/07/2022 4:07 EDT Detroit Tigers at Los Angeles Angels
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Nice game to watch today. Nice win for the Tigers! βΊοΈ Perhaps, just perhaps, 'Some hope for their future.' -
The Tigs people will look at him now. Lets hope they have a decent crystal ball to go with all the analytics.
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Tigers claim Inf Luis Garcia from Phillies: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/ https://www.milb.com/player/luis-garcia-677593
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I can see this as becoming the more trend with FA players. More opt outs as well. Teams have to be getting smarter business wise to not sink 10+ year deals with post 25 year olds... The exceptions, IMHO, will be home grown talents (or by trade) that are under 25-26 ex JRodricuez, FTatis Jr., etc.
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Heck, just for giggles, look at Trayce Thompson, 08/24/22, who now has a bit of a larger sample: https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/baseball/mlb/player/20516/trayce-thompson
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IMHO, I agree with what you mentioned. There is also the fact that there was 'zero' in terms of and then later the beginning of inter-league play. As you mentioned access to data has changed so much. Now most all clubs know so much more.
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