Mr.TaterSalad

I liked Jared Verse as far as edge prospects go in this year's draft. I wasn't really a big fan of the other Robinson, Cop Robinson, either. But if I was going to trade up for one of the DE/Edge prospects it would have been Verse or Chop given their athletic upside compared to Darius Robinson. Both had better combines and seem to showcase more athleticism and traits you can't really coach D.Rob does.

Holmes generally seems to love guys with high athletic upside and traits. His RAS and combine performance don't strike me as that type of guy. I'm glad we passed on Robinson. Maybe I'll come to rue the day I typed this out. 

On 4/30/2024 at 5:46 PM, Motown Bombers said:

 

When you already have a Darius Robinson type player on the roster in Josh Paschal, why would you want to trade up in the first round to add . . . Josh Paschal. Robinson strikes me as a Josh Paschal type of player.

The more I think about it, the more I think the target shares simply don't exist around here for a player like Boyd. Nor will Holmes want to pay the money that Boyd will command. Boyd was already the third in target in Cincinnati behind Chase and Higgins. I would guess he's looking to solidly be someone's #2 WR and get both the targets and pay to match his position as a #2 on the depth chart. If he comes here, as someone already mentioned previously I believe, he'll be likely #4 or #5 on the target share list. He'll for sure be behind St. Brown and LaPorta. There is a high probability Gibbs and Williams will end up seeing more targets than he does too. So that could put him further down the list.

If he wants to win a championship and get a Super Bowl ring, then Detroit is the place to come. I suspect, based on news we've gotten and the fact that he hasn't signed anywhere yet, that he wants a larger payday and a bigger role in an offense. I'd love to be wrong though and have him take a little less to come here, be a little further down the depth chart, but help us win a Lombardi.

13 hours ago, buddha said:

the wings could use the cap space to chase a difference maker.

or deal some prospects for a star.

I don't know that there is a "star" out there to be had this offseason. In previous offseasons you had the likes of Johnny G and Matthew Tkachuk out there and few seemed to have the appetite to pay what it costs to get one of those players. Maybe Toronto gives up one of their big three, but beyond that, whose else would really be on the trade block for us to even look at?

54 minutes ago, buddha said:

i thought danielson stood out in the preseason games LAST year.  like some here, i almost expect him to make the team out of camp next year.  and if not, he'll be up sometime in the season.

then again, they made edvinsson wait all year when he was a clear upgrade on what they had.

i forgot about justin holl on defense, lol.  easy to forget him.  

If Lalonde's comments at the end of the season are any indication then he would probably want Danielson up on the main roster. Lalonde's comments indicated he wanted to give more kids a chance. It would be something to see all of Edvinsson, Mazuer, Wallinder, and Danielson all up on the main roster early on in the season next year.

4 minutes ago, Jason_R said:

Injured playing Guitar Hero? Kicking an octopus? Chasing Joseph Fauria’s fake dog down the fake stairs?

He was getting a pizza from Hungry Howie's most likely.

2 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

well, don't over read it. It's the overall context. Johnson doesn't need to be any kind of saint to be a far more trustworthy opponent than McCarthy - who was a total scumbag, lying to and crossing friend and foe alike with the wind direction, or even worse a diaboli like Gym Jordan whose name would be sure to come up again as potential successor.

I don't know, wouldn't Gym Jordan be a better lighting rod to campaign against than Johnson? I get that Johnson is MAGA Mike and is himself a Trump-loving Congressman. But I think Johnson comes across as far more presentable and far less crazy to average voters versus a guy like Jordan who comes across as out of touch with reality. There's also the fact that he was apart of covering up sexual abuse of athletes at Ohio State when he was the wrestling coach. That seems like a better lightning rod to attack and go after to me.

One of the things the Republicans have always effectively done in the past is to nationalize elections and make Democratic leaders toxic lightning rods in the eyes of voters in races across the country. They run ads showcasing Candidate X with the like of Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer and bait voters into believing Democratic leadership are bad, maniacal people. Democrats have done some of that with Mitch McConnell in the past in their ads, but it doesn't feel like they have to the extent the Republicans have. Jordan seems like a far scarier person to present and sell to the voters than Johnson.

Why wouldn't he sign with Dallas then because they're a bunch of pussies.

Michael Thomas seems a shell of his former self and hasn't played a full season in over 3 years. He gets injured all the time, probably even too much for Brad Holmes. I know the Saints connection is there but that dude is washed and is always hurt. No thanks on Michael Thomas. Tyler Boyd and DJ Chark are probably the only two free agent wideouts I have significant interest in right now. Maybe some interest in Zay Jones and Hunter Renfroe.

If we're going all in why not trade for Tee Higgins and really go all in. Ain't nobody gonna even be thinking about that first round pick next year when we're hoisting a Lombardi Trophy. In all seriousness, as much as I would love Tee Higgins, we can't afford the #1 WR money he will command with all the players we still need to pay. But it would be fun as hell to have him on this offense for one year and win a Lombardi with him.

On 4/29/2024 at 12:45 PM, Jason_R said:

Franchise altering draft for sure. 

Taking nothing away from McNeil, who went from good to great, but Detroit has drafted a lot of players who were OK just skating by on talent and who did not make the extra effort to become great. I’m sure it didn’t hurt McNeil to have tone-setting, culture-changing players like Sewell and St. Brown and others to set expectations. 

I think the coaching staff and the culture they have developed is a big part of this as well. Players actually want to play hard for this staff and respects them. Contrast the culture they have built now with that of Matt Patricia. An overweight guy, who didn't play football, sat in a golf cart, yelled at players, and allegedly showed up late to team meetings. Who wants to fight and play hard for that guy or his staff?

Who needs bro country when you have amazing country artists like Zach Top out there. Turn off country radio and turn on the other thousands places you can access music today and discover real, good, quality country music like Zach Top.

Saw this question on HFBoards so I will ask it here. Would the Wings have faired any better against the Rangers than the Capitals did?

48 minutes ago, lordstanley said:

Tampa eliminated. I think their run of excellence is over. Two straight 1st round exits. I can definitely see them missing the playoffs next season. Stamkos gone?
 

Had quite a run. In past 10 years, 6 conference finals including 4 SCF and 2 Stanley Cups? 

Tampa needs to do what Kenny should have done around 2014ish. They need to tear down their roster and rebuild it. They should have a Wayne Huizenga, Florida Marlins 1997 style fire sale. They likely won't though and will try like many for championship teams past their prime to limp along with the false hope of somehow, someway, winning another one. 

4 hours ago, oblong said:

when given the choice I always listened to CBC because of Bob.... and I liked their toned down broadcast.  Nothing against Mickey and Dave/Ken but I just preferred that.  And obviously I had to be ready for Coach's Corner.

Have spent many nights over the years watching youtube clips of his greatest calls.

Their intermission reports were the opposite of their broadcasts. Somehow a mild mannered hockey broadcast led by the likes of Bob Cole, Harry Neale, and Jim Houghson became a raucous affair at intermission thanks to Coach's Corner.

This . . .

Turned into this . . .

4 minutes ago, ewsieg said:

I heard an interview from a democrat that is running against Wasserman-Schultz in her primary that "from the river to the sea" was first said by some right wing party in Israel, so therefore you 'need to learn your history' before you claim it's used by Palestinians/pro-palestine folks in a disparaging way.  

Can't believe I now have to root for Wasserman-Schultz....this world is so messed up.

Netanyahu, himself a xenophobic, Islamophobic world leader, has used the phrase. As have members of the Israeli parliamentary. I am frankly troubled by either side using it. Palestine and Israel both have a right to exist as free peoples, living in free nation states. This ideal that Israel should just up and vacate is as ridiculous as Netanyahu's belief that Israel should control the entire region and there should be no Palestinian state.

I'm beginning to lose respect for some protestors on the Palestinian side based on some troubling things I have seen at some of these protests. One of those things is this idea that a State of Israel shouldn't even exist at all. Now, I've been all in favor of Israeli settlements being curtailed or stopped all together. I've been in favor of Palestinians getting swaths of land that was stolen back. I've been in favor of a real, genuine, two-state solution. But one thing I am not in favor of, is Israel just ceasing to exist as a nation state. That's why I do get troubled when I hear chants of "from the river to the sea" from westerners in America.

Just a thought on that note, if you believe Israel stole land from Palestinian people and shouldn't exist as a nation state, shouldn't you yourself then do research as to what indigenous tribe once inhabited the land where your home is now? And shouldn't you return to whatever Euro-Asian country your ancestors came from and winningly give their land back to native and indigenous people whose tribes may have once inhabited that land?

2 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

This is dangerous and bull**** stupidity. Free speech and free press are the hallmark of this country and of any, good, free society. These kids look ignorant and frankly dangerous to free speech and press by not allowing any and all press into their encampment. I've been all for the Palestinian cause throughout this process, but seeing things like this, encircling and pushing up against police, bullying of anyone who isn't 100% likeminded, and chants that are clearly not anti-war but anti-Semitic like "from the river to the sea" and chants calling for the destruction of Israel as a state do this movement and people who participate in it no good.

So essentially everyone that is expected to win their opening series is going to win it looks like except Dallas. It doesn't seem like there will be any upsets happening sans maybe Dallas. That series isn't close to in the books yet an losing to the defending Stanley Cup champs is exactly a major upset.

On 4/24/2024 at 11:03 PM, Hongbit said:

 

Quebec Nordiques should be one of the team name choices. 🙂 

On 4/25/2024 at 1:24 PM, oblong said:

The voice of my Saturday nights.

 

Oh no, I didn't realize Bob Cole had died. Unless the Wings were on Pass or FSN on a Saturday night, I would always make it a point to watch HNIC on Saturday's along with HBO Boxing. I loved Bob Cole as an announcer and he is one of the very best to do it in the game of hockey and sports. This is very sad to hear. RIP Bob Cole.

I've been starting to do some research of my own by reading up on and watching videos from this years crop of draft prospects. Stan, Sloth or anyone that follows juniors/international juniors/colligate hockey who are prospects the Wings could realistically be looking at in this years draft? I'd like to see us build up our depth at forward and get a pure goal scorer if that player exists when we pick. Last year I wanted one of Zach Benson or Colby Barlow as they projected as such and we didn't draft either. Is this a forwarded heavy draft, defensive heavy draft, balanced, or a weak draft class?

Do we have a shot at the Tij Iginla who is Jerome Iginla's son? He seems like a dynamic goal scorer who could play wing or center. Berkly Catton, Liam Greentree, Cayden Lindstrom are some other prospects of interest to me that fit the goal scoring mode. Are these guys that would realistically be there when the Wings pick? Who are we looking at?

 

This is the definition of an A+ draft. I'm as critical and cynical as they come sometimes, but Brad Holmes and company hit a grand slam here. To get 5 quality starters out of a draft, with two of them being all pros and another being Pro Bowl caliber, is absurd in the NFL. It doesn't get any better than a draft like this for the Lions or any NFL team. This is an A+ draft and would be an A++ if Levi weren't likely trending to be a bust due to injuries.

Which NFC North team do you feel had the best overall draft and offseason? Which one do you think will be the biggest threat to the Lions not just next year, but over the next several years?