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I hope they have a lot of security in the locker room.  Worried Beef Stew is still going to go after Lebron.  Never seen somebody so hot.  

I don't know what the record is for lowest three point percentage on a high volume but it feels like Cade may challenge it this year.  

At least Cade is leaving a positive impression on this 4th quarter.  

I guess I should say something nice about Killian given he is actually shooting it well tonight.  This will probably end up being the best stat line of his career.  

2 minutes ago, buddha said:

i really hope this cade thing starts to improve by year 3, lol.

It is frustrating to watch him struggle. Somehow his 23% from three is going to get worse after tonight it appears.  

I really hope it doesn't take 3 years to realize this Killian Hayes thing isn't working.  

14 minutes ago, buddha said:

Not to beat a dead horse but some of this is on Casey.  

That said, Killian has to go to the bench and be a backup.  Not that we have great options on the bench to replace him but we need to do something.  You still need to ultimately run the offense thru Cade and hope he figures out his turnover issue.  

Also hope Livers gets healthy soon.  Livers and Bey are good shooters.  Bey will get it going at some point.  And I think Livers can help as well.

6 minutes ago, buddha said:

stewart and bey are role players.

cade is supposed to be the superstar.  if he's not, then the pistons are in a world of hurt.  but its only been 10 games.  he's got a long time to get better and i assume he will.

in the meantime 7 turnovers and 9 points is less than ideal.

I thought Bey was going to be a really good role player though and now I am starting to wonder if he is more an average role player (like maybe a bench guy instead of a starter).  Still holding out hope for him but he just looks lost right now trying to take on an increased role and that is compounded by poor shooting.  

Cade continually tries to take guys off the dribble and turn the ball over.  Who did everybody compare him to last summer?  Luka Doncic.  I can't say I watch Doncic a lot but I don't think of him as a guy who does what Cade is trying to do.  Eventually, Cade is going to have to figure out that is not playing to his strengths.  

5 minutes ago, buddha said:

its going to be 2 or 3 years before cade is going to be good.  the pistons are going to be bad for a while.

This feels worse than it needs to be IMO.  Bey is playing worse than I expected and I think that is a large part of the problem.  I expected him to be better than last year and he has actually been worse.  

I think you can turn it around quick as the young core begins to click in their second/third year.  So we could take a giant leap next season.  But this season is definitely going to be worse than expected.  

Cade will have to work hard on his strength and shooting after the season.  He is just not going to beat NBA level players with his athleticism.  This is not anything we didn't know going into the season.  Just reiterating what we already know I guess.  The court vision and passing are as advertised and that will shine more as he develops.  

I just can't believe how poor we have been on offense over the first 10 games.  Some of this has to be put on Casey.  We look completely lost out there.  He was known for being more defensive minded than offensive minded when he came here and I think we are suffering for it.  

The biggest surprise to the negative this year has to be Bey's shooting.  Still a small sample size but it's hard to believe he is still below 30% from three 10 games into the season.  

I know we are young and need me more talent but I just don't trust Casey as a coach.   We are just awful on offense.  

3 hours ago, casimir said:

Time will tell.  He was who I wanted the Pistons to draft.

Mobley would have been my #1 pick 10 months ago.  But it was pretty obvious everybody in the industry thought Cade was the right pick.  So I bought in.  And I still buy in.  Both will be great.  

Didn't realize we had a board back up and running.  Now I can complain with my computer while watching games.