tiger2022

Instead, the Yankees ended up with Tom Brookens, quite a difference.

It's only a bad take because it differs from your opinion that's he a great GM, that's the only reason. He has done virtually nothing to improve the mlb roster since he took over. I'm a realist and it's fine that there are people that love Harris but if you are honest with yourself, what has he really done? Not much successfully. He's been pretty lucky that Avila's players have finally started playing somewhat like mlb players. Because his guys...Sweeney, Maeda, Morton, Kahnle, Paddack, Urshela, Canha, Vilade, Maton, Nevin, Cobb, Urquidy, etc were all disasters. And he had no veteran pitchers in AAA to give the team innings when the inevitable injuries happened. So he has Torres, who faded down the stretch, always injured Vierling, McKinstry, and Flaherty , who had a good half of a season and was pretty awful last year. A few RPs, which are always crapshoots...3 years of GM and that is what he has done to make the team better. And this offseason? Crickets? Once again, it's only a bad take because it differs from your opinion of Harris.

None of these fantasy trades have any chance of happening. The Yankees aren't trading Schittler. Hopefully, the Central sucks again so the Tigers will be in it right up to the end and keep Skubal to try to win the WS. If they have a shot at the playoffs and they traded Skubal at the deadline, there would be a lot of pissed off fans. As much as I think Harris doesn't care about the current mlb team and if they win or not (he's only concerned about his draft picks), he's not stupid and Ilitch wouldn't give the green light for a trade anyway.

If the limit Melton's innings, let's hope they don't take the Nationals philosophy with Strausburg...pitch him right away and then shut him down for the playoffs. Maybe the dumbest way of ever handling a player in mlb history

Gold gloves are not that impressive. Jeter won 5 of them. He had about as much range as my deceased grandfather.

The key word= prospect. They haven't done anything yet.

It was a sad time to be a Tigers fan. They made the playoffs in '87 and then starting in '89, fifteen years of utter pathetic baseball. We had TBS, so I ended up following the Braves more than the Tigers during that time.

Back to the 80s stuff, had Mike Schmidt played during the roid and juiced ball era, he would have destroyed the home run record.

But the HOF is a joke anyway. David Ortiz, failed PED test, is in the HOF but his roider teammate, Manny Ramirez, a much better hitter, isn't in there. I think the Raiders should all be in there but it doesn't make sense how Ortiz, Bagwellz IRodriguez are in there but other roiders aren't.

Eddie Murray is an interesting case. In 22 seasons, Murray hit 30+ HRs only 4 times with a high of 33. And age 31 to the end of his career, outside of 1 season, he was pretty mediocre. People think he was this big basher and amazing hitter because he got to 3000 and 500, but he was always healthy and wouldn't retire...just kept getting at bats. His last 10 years he had 12.2 WAR and his first 13 he had 56.6. A lot of counting stats were just those of an average player for a lot of his career. I didn't really start paying attention to baseball until about '86 or so and by that time he was kind of on the downward part of his career, which is why I wasn't too impressed with him.

I just think WAR has a lot of drawbacks. If someone hangs around amd is slightly above average for a long time, they will have a higher WAR. I think Lou Whitaker should be in the HOF. He was my favorite player growing up and I always tried to wear #1 whenever I had the chance. But Kent was a much more feared hitter in my opinion. Will Clark for example. He retired at 36 and hit over .300 his last 4 seasons. His last season he hit 21 HRs with a .319 average, .964 OPS. 4.0 WAR. He just retired because he wanted to be with his family more. He could have hung around for 4 or 5 years and racked up another 10.0 WAR possibly, but he didn't want to keep playing. WAR punishes guys that don't hang around a long time because they have other things in life they want to do. Kershaw has 80.9 WAR and Verlander has 81.7 WAR. Who was a better pitcher? Verlander is 5 years older than Kershaw. One just retired and the other is playing another year Cabrera should have retired at 34.

WAR per 162 game average: Keith Hernandez 4.7 Will Clark 4.6 Mark Teixeira 4.4 Jack Clark 4.3 John Olerud 4.2 Miguel Cabrera 3.9 Don Mattingly 3.8 Guess the one that is a sure fire 1st ballot HOFer and guess which ones have zero chance at making the HOF? All the guys played at least 15 years. And Kent has the same WAR per 162 games as Cabrera, 3.9 Craig Nettles, 68.0 WAR, 22 years, 4.1 per 162 games Miguel Cabrera, 67.2 WAR, 21 years. 3.9 per 162 games. Buddy Bell, 66.3 WAR, 18 years, 4.5 per 162 games.

I imagine Bonds hit all those home runs for him too. The dude still did what he did, no matter how much you don't want it to be true. Also, Kent hit 3rd and Bonds hit 4th. Whitaker had an actual HOFer hitting after him. That Bonds fellow couldn't even make it in the HOF.

Kent was a great choice. Your argument is based on WAR and WAR alone. Kent was arguably the greatest offensive 2nd baseman. .290 avg, 377 hrs, 1518 rbi, 1320 runs. .855 ops. I know people hate all these stats now and just go by war, but who cares if Kent wasn't a Gold Glover or amazing base runner. And just because they hate Whitaker and won't put him in the HOF doesn't mean Kent shouldn't be in there.

This is stuff that 99% of people in the board already know. But people get irrational when a player leaves to make more money as though that player owes the franchise something.