Tiger337

That's what I meant about being able to track every play. When I was a kid, I would listen to Tigers game on the radio and keep a box sore. Every play would be tracked. And that has been done officially for every game for decades. That's what I meant by every play is tracked. That was beautiful and orderly and now it's gone. You described the pitcher stat problem. But what about the base runner? The runner gets credit for scoring a run without anybody even reaching base. That just throws the whole system out of order.

LOL, This has nothing to with saber. It has to do with playing BASEBALL as it has always been played. By fundamentally changing the rules if the game to allow free baserunners, it is no longer baseball. You are creating wins and losses by changing the rules of the game because the real game is not giving you the result that you want.

All throughout the history of the game, before the extra-base-runner rule, every event in the game was a real event that could be earned and tracked. That was part of the beauty of baseball. One of the things that has always appealed to me about baseball is that they didn't resort to cheap gimmicks to appeal to new fans. I really don't care what they do in other sports. I think the football overtime rules are stupid, but I don't care about the game enough to get upset about it. I would not mind if they eliminated ties in post-season. The rules of playing the game would still be the same as the tie games in regular season. They would just keep on playing in the playoffs.

I agree.

It's a win/loss according to the rules. It's just not real baseball. If it was real baseball, they wouldn't switch back to the traditional rules for the playoffs.

I don't think the rule is unfair or bad for the Tigers. I don't like the rule for baseball. As far as I am concerned, what's good for the game always comes before what's good for the Tigers.

Exactly! I would watch it, but it would be a lot less satisfying than getting into the playoffs without that BS.

I would be fine with ties. They could have two extra innings and then call it a tie. If you can't decide the game playing real baseball, then just call it a tie.

It's fake because putting base runners on base for free is not baseball. I know it counts the same in the standings which sucks, but when I am sitting there watching a game and I see a base runner on base, it is no longer a baseball game for me.

I think this kind of crap happens in a lot of places, especially in the male environment of pro sports. It's good that the Tigers organization is addressing it.

Extra innng losses don't feel as bad because it's fake baseball. I did watch it this time...mostly because I wanted to see McGonigle and Dingler bat.

I have no special memory of my first live game. It was at Fenway, but I don't know when it was. What I do remember was becoming a Tigers fan. We lived in Massachusetts, so everyone in the neighborhood was a Red Sox fan. However, my father was a huge Cardinals fan, so I learned to hate the Red Sox in 1967. I was a Cardinals fan for a while, but my father told me I couldn't be a Cardinals fan because that was his team. The Tigers were good, so I chose them. As my family was spending a week in Cape Cod, I was listening to the games on the radio with my father. I think there was one TV game. In seven games between the Red Sox and Tigers, I remember the Tigers going 5-2 winning the middle 5 games. This would make it August 9 - August 18, 1968. I remember it as a 7-game series, but it was really back to back weekend series. I have no memory of the Cleveland series in between. Anyway, my team beat my father's team in the World Series and I never turned back.

I saw "Fluharty 5.40 ERA" and though "****, didn't he just pitch?"

At that time, I had high hopes for every player that was called up.