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  1. Longgone
    You are saying keeping the lottery small won't disrupt the draft too much. Why disrupt it at all? Why draw the line at 8, why not 12, or 20? Where's the logical rationale? What if these exact same 8 teams were the only teams in the mlb, would you still say the differential in records and talent is negligible and there should be a lottery for draft order?
  2. Longgone
    There are varying levels of competence in mlb, of course there are. Teams are going to have varying budget constraints in the current environment. However, it it no secret that the Yankees and Dodgers excellence in scouting and player development year after year is in no small measure due to their huge revenue differential compared to other teams, and their ability to outbid and outspend other teams in those areas. Sure, a Tampa Bay has found some success, but is continually losing talent to deeper pockets. With revenues so lopsided, the draft is one way to maintain parity. Leave it alone. All teams want to win, all gms, scouting directors, owners, players, etc., want to win. The idea that some teams are just cheap, greedy, or just plain incompetent, and should be punished for it, is a fallacy, just frustration speaking. Baseball has some issues to address, but the draft isnt one of them, and a lottery isn't going to address any of them.
  3. Longgone
    That will come out in the wash, over time, as intended, if you don't screw things up with a lottery.
  4. Longgone
    You are allowing a better, more competitive team to draft ahead of a weaker team. That is not the purpose of a draft. And you are doing it for no productive reason. If you buy the premise that won/loss record is indicative of ability, then artificially altering that hierarchy is a corruption of intent.
  5. Longgone
    This seems like a non sequitur, the lottery doesn't address either incompetence or five straight years of losing. There are two facts: 1. Lotteries don't do anything to impact team behavior. 2. They unnecessarily distort the true function of a draft, which is to allow weaker to become more competitive, and create long term parity.
  6. Longgone
    The only principle you state is you don't want to reward incompetence, but there isn't one iota of evidence that finishing last is due to incompetence. All you know is that there is a competitive imbalance. Someone is always going to be on the bottom. Is that always incompetence? Not by a long shot. And yes, it can take five years or more to correct a competitive imbalance.
  7. Longgone
    Tanking is a perception, not a reality. Teams are going to rebuild, and to do so, they need to be able to trade present assets for future ones. You can dislike the losing that results from that, but it is a legitimate strategy, not to mention a lottery has absolutely no impact on the behavior, except to distort the function of the draft.
  8. Longgone
    Of course! They want more teams spending more money. No surprise there.
  9. Longgone
    That's a huge distortion of the function of a draft for a "maybe", all to provide something that will have no impact on behavior and fail to address any real issues.
  10. Longgone
    It's not "essential" in basketball! It hasn't changed behavior one iota, nor has it had the slightest impact in the NHL. It is an irrational response to a mythical problem. It's all perception, not reality.
  11. Longgone
    Sure they are, for the same reason the worst team is more deserving than the best. Teams draft in reverse order for a reason. Besides, it's pointless, accomplishes nothing, with so many other real issues to be addressed.
  12. Longgone
    Come on, Lee. There are 30 teams, somebody is going to be on the bottom. Talent is not going to pan out evenly. It can easily take 5 years or more for a competitive imbalance to reverse. It doesn't at all imply incompetence. Bigger issue is to make sure bottom teams can reverse fortunes, and thats the purpose of a draft. Corrupting it with a lottery is irrational.
  13. Longgone
    Touche, my friend
  14. Longgone
    They want draft picks because they want to win!!!!
  15. Longgone
    They are dumb, they are an irrational response to a mythical problem. Baseball has enough real issues without wasting time on this crap.
  16. Longgone
    Its not acceptable, but shit happens. If you think some contrived carrot/stick is going to make any difference, then i don't know what else can be said.
  17. Longgone
    I believe that is a baseless assumption.
  18. Longgone
    That's a perception. They are all trying to be successful. You may not like it, you may not, as a fan, have the patience for it, but that doesn't make wrong or unnecessary. The idea that all teams can compete at all times every year is just absurd. Rebuilding is a reality in every major sport, to deny that is naive. To punish that, or believe some incentive will prevent it is equally absurd.
  19. Longgone
    Atta boy, keep chewing that rubber bone
  20. Longgone
    The Tigers have short and long term plans, they have an organizational chart where people have specific responsibilities, goals and objectives for hiring, scouting, drafting, player development, etc, and I assure you none of those are on Hinch's plate. Sure he'll give input on potential staff and players, all managers do, and sure he has input on developmental processes, all staff do, but he ain't driving the bus cause it ain't his responsibility, he's a manager with a very specific set of responsibilities, he's not going to go around usurping other peoples duties.
  21. Longgone
    A lottery will have no impact on "tanking", because teams aren't doing it for financial reasons, that is a faulty assumption. They are simply taking a longer term strategy to success, that is all, some competently, some not so much. Thinking it's laziness or greed that cause teams to lose on purpose, and some contrived carrot or stick will change behaviour in an already extremely competitive industry is just mind boggling. They are REBUILDING, exchanging present assets for future ones. There's nothing wrong with that! Idealy you maintain an adequate core to be consistently competitive, but the fates are fickle, it doesn't always work that way.
  22. Longgone
    I agree, they put themselves in a box, although who would have thought the demand would be so poor?
  23. Longgone
    Hinch was a superb hire, but if you think he is highly responsible for scouting, drafting and player development, then you have no idea how clubs operate.
  24. Longgone
    So don't take a chance and get nothing? I don't think the Tigers were dumping salary, as much as they knew they weren't resigning him, so they took what they could get. Unfortunately, it sucked.
  25. Longgone
    1. Rebuilding teams would add payroll by taking on bloated contracts for prospects or flip anyone successful and continue to "tank". 2. Punishes weaker teams for bad luck or poor management, making it even less likely for them to improve. Do you really think some contrived carrot and stick approach is going to make any difference in an already highly competitive environment? 3. Defeats the whole purpose of a draft; to allow weaker teams the opportunity to gain ground. Face it, tanking is rebuilding, rebuilding may be painful, but it's not bad.
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