Longgone

15 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Where is this Ragnow retirement talk coming from? Did one of the beat writers or NFL insiders report it?

No, he said he had to take time to figure out how to deal with his various injuries, nothing about retirement.

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

Is she a Gipson or a Long?  

She's long been a Gipson.

4 hours ago, SoCalTiger said:

No I did not. Guilty. Just going off the rating in your post and articles I have read. For instance I’ve read Keith’s arm is insufficient for third base. Not sure if true. Jung looks like a catcher to me so third seems possible plus his arm is written about as great per his coaches. Stuff like that.

But best analysis is on this board for sure. So thanks to everyone. 

Jung's arm is average, at best. Keith had a plus arm, but has needed to wind up and has had trouble with different arm angles, however, a lot of these defensive reports on him are post injury and after bulking up. Some training, conditioning and healing may offset a lot of concerns.

12 minutes ago, GoBlue23 said:

I'm done with the back and forth with the Goff fan club. 

You should be, you've wasted everyone's time with shallow, baseless assumptions, and then compounded it by continually doubling down with more of the same.

4 minutes ago, GoBlue23 said:

Lions won by 1 point, largely because of a PI that wasn't called. 

Only that close because Stafford is surrounded by great players.

4 minutes ago, Longgone said:

And Reynolds will catch that 95 times out of 100

Unfortunately, it was one of the other 5.

42 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

I said it was a drop. The pass wasn't perfect but it has to be caught in that situation.

And Reynolds will catch that 95 times out of 100

27 minutes ago, GoBlue23 said:

Brock Purdy was the last pick in the draft and outplayed Goff and can scramble too. 

Goff is faster than Purdy and has a much stronger arm. You are coloring your perceptions.

21 minutes ago, GoBlue23 said:

LOL sure thing, Goff once ran for a first down 3 years ago or something so that means he can totally scramble when he needs to.

From Lance ZIerlein scouting report, as opposed to some random fans baseless assumptions:

• Quality arm
• Makes all the throws and can sling the deep out with velocity and accuracy
• Clean release and snaps throws off with flick of the wrist
• Drives hips through his release for extra heat
• Pocket mobility and poise 
• Maintains proper footwork and readiness to throw as he slides inside the pocket
• Speeds up internal clock when he feels pressure or recognizes blitz
• Pocket climber
• Able to run out of trouble rather than into it
• Looks the part of a confident, first round quarterback when working from a clean pocket
• Sells his play ­fakes with purpose and draws linebackers forward
• Has learned to expedite his throws from off­-balance angles due to pocket pressure

8 minutes ago, GoBlue23 said:

Absolutely hilarious to claim a fan of the team has an agenda.  I'm simply stating an opinion and you are just incapable of processing anything that doesn't jive with your view of things.  

Goff has a limited skill set and while that might be enough to get you to a certain point, Goff is never going to be a QB that goes out there and wins you games with plays he makes.  He is never going to escape pressure and find the open receiver, he is never going to run for a big first down, he is never going to make those impossible throws and he is never going to sling the ball sidearm to avoid a dude in his face.   His one skill is to stand there in a perfect pocket and make short and medium range throws and that's all he'll ever be.   I happen to think that's not good enough to put the team over the top. 

Fortunately, none of the above is true. He has done all of those things. Watch some film and stop subscribing to fan stereotypes.

It was a hell of a year. A tremendous amount of fun. About all you could hope for, lots of good players (and coaches) to root for.

On 12/31/2023 at 3:03 PM, Sports_Freak said:

It doesn't really matter. Nobody is going to beat Baltimore anyway. They're playing on a different level. Maybe next year...

Bump

5 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Striving for something is great if you are doing something that you love.  Video games are not my thing, but studies have show that they do develop skills that can be useful in life.  Travel sports are probably great for some kids too.  I think for most youth, the pressure of obsessing over one sport is not the best experience especially if it's under the supervision of over ambitious adults.  Playing a variety of different sports and other activities is probably a better experience for most. 

Sure, it doesn’t have to be sports, whatever you love and are passionate about. Go for it.

8 hours ago, oblong said:

I never understood the lure of youth sports to the extent or sacrificing entire summers in lieu of constant traveling for tournaments and camps and all of that… just to get a scholarship at some mid level school. I’m talking division 2 or 3 l, if NCAA at all. It seems to have become a big thing with my generation raising the kids.   You spent more on the sport and sacrificed more than the scholarship is worth.  Live life. Don’t make your kid spend their childhood on the road. 
 

as much as I love baseball and playing it as a kid I am not upset my son didn’t care for it if that’s what it takes to be good at a sport today as a youth.  

Live life and do what, play video games? Striving for something, anything, is living life, and those lessons, even if you fail and come up short, are invaluable.

3 hours ago, Hongbit said:

I heard one of the Vegas guys talking and they were getting a ton of money coming in on the Lions from their Michigan operations and sports gambling still not being legal in California played a role in less Niner money coming in.  

That would cause the spread to narrow, not widen.

36 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

Is that their way of saying not enough power to play in a corner?  I don’t know what Bigbie will become, but feel pretty good if we have 31 prospects who are better.

NO ONE ever thought he could play center field.

1 hour ago, Edman85 said:

"Bigbie had a huge season and his underlying batted ball data is ridiculous. He is deceptively strong and had a hard-hit rate over 50% despite his skinny build. Bigbie looks beatable inside, around his hands; he sprays a ton of doubles-worthy contact just inside the opposite field foul pole. I came away from his Fall League look skeptical that he’ll continue to hit this well, and am pretty resolved that he can’t play center field. This is me leaning heavily on my eyeball look; Bigbie’s underlying Statcast-style data is so strong that I’m sure some teams value him as a prospect solely for that."

C

"Can't play center field" what the hell?

On 1/21/2024 at 11:55 AM, gehringer_2 said:

9 times out of 10, a guy like Nevin has just hit the limit of the pitching he can handle, but once in a while I think a guy who has toiled a long time in the minors just puts himself under so much pressure on a call up that he ends up unable to hit and Nevin sort of gave me that vibe.

It's terrifically hard to hit when you are not playing regularly.

1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said:

And it's all so stupid. It's sports for freaking sakes and Kelly is on some other planet. You are supposed to have fun with playing the bad guy in enemy territory - if you can't do that stay the hell at home. And again - family and children on the field after the game is the celebration for the winners. That's part of what you earn by winning between the lines. If you lose the game best to just vacate the field.

Airhead.

I don’t understand why fans want to make a controversy over the slightest thing someone says. She was booed, it was her experience. She has a right to talk about it if she wants. She said nothing controversial or untrue. Why not just enjoy the Lion’s success and let others express their perspective without getting all pissy.

8 minutes ago, Jason_R said:

How many 2nd or 3rd and longs are we expecting? Maybe the guy is not in elite football shape but can he go ten snaps?

It's not endurance, it's whether he has the bend, flexibility, explosiveness and strength to be effective.

16 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

Yep you even go waist level on a guy that weighs 50lb more than you like the TE did theres a good chance he runs you over or drags you for 5 to 10 extra yards. Then everybody bitches about your tackling ability.

If you go high to try to lodge the ball loose or "knock him silly" youre likely looking at a penalty there. Your best option is to go low at his knees cause no matter how big you are that will always trip you up. 

Unfortunately you run the risk of the opponents leg being extended like Higbees was but its a bang bang play you can't try to time for something like that it just is an unfortunate circumstance when it happens.

Another factor is the sticky nature of artificial turf.

14 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

It is the same attempt, but Kerby needs to stop it.    Just because the other guys did it doesn't mean it's cool. 

No, it's how defensive backs are taught to tackle much larger opponents, tackle them higher and they shed you or carry you for ten yards.

3 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

For whatever reason, I don't think this coaching staff thinks highly of Houston. I'm not sure how aggressive they will be in free agency. They have to do contract extensions for St Brown, Sewell, Goff and possibly McNeil. 

He is an undersized, one trick pony at this point, although it's a superior trick. Whether he can become more than that remains to be seen, but they were adjusting to him.

2 hours ago, buddha said:

stafford was fine in that press conference.  people are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.

also, other than that ridiculously obvious offsides call that probably cost the lions 3 points, the refs really helped the lions.  they had a pass interference call on the last play (a d a few other ones too), a borderline roughing call on hutch/mcneill they didnt call, and a potential unnecessary roughness call on kirby when he took out higbee's knees.  

i talk a lot about the refs ****ing the lions, but they really helped them last night.  the benefits of playing at home against a non-marquee team.

I agree on the pass interference and roughness, but they let some of those go on the Rams, also so I don't think it over benefited either team. However, there was absolutely nothing wrong with the tackle on Higbee.

1 hour ago, ben9753 said:

To me its 50/50 they win or loose. Will make it somewhat easier to stomach if they do loose.

They are loose. They're not worried at all.