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14 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I think it is near imposible for any intelligent person to support the current Republican party.  However, I am not impressed by politicians in general and that includes Democrats.  

I will come back again to the campaign money issue. You've always had venal, self-flating, ambitious people run for office, but when they had to do it by actually working for their their district, it keep them pinned tighter to doing useful public service. But with the way money and politics and corporate PAC support works now, you get the same venal, self-inflating, ambitious people, and all they have to do is appeal to Rupert Murdoch or Charles Koch or whoever is willing to write a 7 figure check. (you used to be able to put unions in the list on the other side, but they just don't have near the clout they used to). That sort of removes the brakes on the taxi of state.

2 hours ago, casimir said:

I've read this a few times.  I think you've got a combination of sarcasm and reality that masks from me what you're getting at.

Bottom line is this.  You're married, and so you and your wife have to make life decisions that you think are best for your family.  That's fine, some of us around here are married, we get the drill.  But those decisions are for you to make.

Butker's return to priests with backs turned to the congregation while conducting Catholic mass in Latin commentary was about men being men and women being women, pure and simple.  There is no gray area about what he was getting at.  And so **** his opinion on that.

I guess I don't even care if a person want to say in public that Vatican II was a heresy (I see you Ross Douthat!), you cross the line as soon as you project that you are judging or invalidating someone else's choice for themselves, whether you do it for religious grounds or atheistic philosophy grounds. You can tie this right to what is so wrong about Alito on the SCOTUS (and Scalia before him, whose son was an RC priest IIRC). He seems to think his view of proper RC/Christian history and culture should have some currency to decide what other people do with their lives. If he wants to live that life, fine, but leave it at the courtroom door or find a new line of work for the sake of the rest of us.

24 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I wasn't referring to anyone in particular.  I just think, in general, this forum is very supportive of Democrats.  

We've had a few sane repubs convert and few of the more out there repubs leave - so you get what's left...🤷‍♀️

Just now, Tiger337 said:

It also might have been somewhat self induced by not staying in better condition

that is almost certainly true - weight is the #1 indicator for knee damage. It's funny how he persuaded himself he had to stay heavy to hit for power when his power was fine when he was a younger thinner player. I don't remember what year it was he did lose some weight - then he didn't hit real well coming out of ST and said he had to put it back on for leverage!

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

  That doesn't make him any better than another hitter who slumps for other reasons.

right, that's what I meant - it's all the same in BR. I guess what was different was to compare Cabrera to Kaline. Al talked about everything running down to where he just couldn't push himself through another spring training - so it was kind a natural - 'now you are too old' which every player will face. But Cabrera had one particular part fail when all the other stuff could have still been working, and yes that does happen to a lot of guys, but it's still a much sadder/tragic (to me) case than a guy who is 35+ and can't see the fastball any more anyway. So just the perception of it.

41 minutes ago, oblong said:

I couldn’t tell who was Crocket and who was AOC in the dialogue off camera. 

fair point - one of the news transcripts attributed it to AOC but that's certainly questionable.

11 minutes ago, oblong said:

I’m not going to fault someone for punching back. There’s no victory anymore in taking the high road. 

Actually didn't AOC call MTG "baby girl", that's a pretty good slam, though maybe not in MTGs exurban neck of the woods.

13 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Usually I just assume that people who promote horrible reactionaries are merely cynical partisan hacks, but every once in a while I have to wonder whether they are just aggressively ignorant or even stupid. Otherwise, how can they not see what’s so blindingly obvious?

 

I can cut people a little slack around Thomas because he had honed the act of the aggrieved black man to an art and was able to take in a lot of people with it - but it shouldn't have taken too much of his record on the court to prove to anyone that he is a hack and a schill for his various sugar daddy business 'contributors'. There's the ignorance part I guess. 

With Alito, there is less excuse, he has been a small minded off the wall medievalist, royalist nut job from day one.

1 hour ago, 1776 said:

Boys, this is what happens when you just trust the process. 
 

Or change the process. It was sort of telling to hear Hinch praising the team approach and having it be in contradiction everything Tork said the team preaches. But that's cool, I'm always happy to take practice over theory.

But I would guess from all the chatter in the booth about the statistics on first pitch strikes that they picked that up from from Hinch pregame and that maybe it means the team has  realized that in the ebb and flow between the objective of trying to make pitchers throw more pitches and pitchers thus striving to throw more 1st pitch strikes, the world has shifted so it's time to revisit. The one issue with being data driven is the need to remember the data is always the past, so you may end up behind  the curve when things change. In baseball you are not always measuring a static system - the underlying conditions that create some of your data can change because it's present tense decisions of players that are creating the data sets, and those are subject to change/evolution. The best launch angle to hit a HR doesn't change, but player tendencies do.

7 minutes ago, casimir said:

He is terrible.  That's who he is.  The beauty of watching on delayed recording is zipping through those awful commercials.

I'm embarrassed for the Tigers for any out of towner to see one of those.

LOL - I think Parker has had a fire lit in him.

5 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Ibanez with a major league play at 3rd base.

Ibanez, Vierling, Urshella can all hold down the defense at 3rd - at least well enough not to hurt. But as McKinstry just demonstrated,  it would get  painful if McKinstry plays many innings at SS.

Wentz gives up  some shots - no runs

1 minute ago, Sports_Freak said:

Skubal threw 74 pitches. He looked like he was just getting warmed up...

I think at the end of the 3rd, Nelson was over 70 pitches and Skubal was at 34.

8 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

It's a much different team now, but it's more the reminder that even the bad offenses can experience a dead cat bounce from time to time. 

There's still some upside here though.... Tork and Keith turning things around would make a huge difference on this teams trajectory. 

what I look for is whether there they are actually doing something different, and they are not letting too many called strikes go by. Now quite possibly tomorrow the DBs will decide not to throw so many 1st pitch strikes and the chess match restarts from a different board.

11 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

The main thing that scares me about tonight is that there hasn't been a ton of home run power.... it reminds me a little bit of the Miggy 3000 game in that regard from a couple of years ago. (although they have at least had more extra base hits tonight)

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/DET/DET202204231.shtml

Tigers have 7 fly balls over 100 mph. Any of them might be HRs somewhere else. Kirk's been talking about this park being bad for HRs with the roof closed.

2 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

Anyone know why Greene got pulled for McKinstry?

they will always be looking for excuses to get Riley off his feet.

2nd long sit down. But Skubal still in the game....

11 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

I didn't hear any garbage cans being hit.  How do you think they're doing it?    Chris Sale's favorite guy in the binoculars moved to Arizona?  

they aren't facing a lot of velo, and they haven't been smart enough to even pitch Javy outside, so there's that.

Keith now 8 for his last 21.

must be the green batting gloves.

2 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Keith, Torkelson and Javy all getting hits in the same inning? What are the odds of that happening? 🤔

One in 125 if they are all 200 hitters. One in 27 if they all hit 330!

4 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I’m sorry, but that was just a torking dumb play, even though it worked this time. 

could tell if Kerry was calling it - if he was he wasn't being real demonstrative.

Gibson and Benetti lobbying for the Tigers to swing the bat more.

Tork goes opposite field on a FB high and away. Hope springs eternal