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15 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

And here's the next point:

In which ****ing universe are the Iranians NOW going to give up their nuclear goals?

NUNCA!

Iran will NEVER (now that Trump has shown how belligerent America can be (under his leadership that is...)) give up its nuclear aspirations. They will now see, as North Korea saw, that they MUST have nuclear bombs as an existential necessity.

yup - this is almost certainly the next shoe that will drop. Iran will go all out to assemble and demonstrate one fissile explosion no matter how small, because they know that will change the calculus completely. And so the Iranian bomb will be Bibi's legacy to Israel. Total victory of ironic justice.

49 minutes ago, Screwball said:

(we can't buy crude)

My FIL used to buy shares of well outputs. Mostly little spit things out west that did a few bbl/d/. IIRC they were a pain to unwind after he passed. 🛢️🛢️🛢️

17 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

FanGraphs gives Peck a hit tool of 30.  His 125/41 K/BB ratio is not impressive.  He supposedly has power potential.    

14 minutes ago, tiger2022 said:

The Tigers must think something of Peck.  He was in A ball most of the year last season and now he's getting some attention in ST.  

He's also 24, so he's pretty much at the now or never point - so it could be he's getting a 'last, long, look' driving the decision about whether to keep him or give his spot in the system to someone else with more upside.

11 minutes ago, oblong said:

The ****er is on TV bragging about bombing and taking away their electricity and killing people but tell me again about that being the Christian way. He’s rambling in a way that Biden never did but dumb ass saps eat it up as gospel.  

They never learn that killing people never changes anything. All you do is leave behind more people who are motivated to do more killing.

The difference between the outcome after WWI and WWII was not because more people were killed more efficiently a generation later, it was because the peace afterward was managed completely differently. 

There are times when there are actors on the international stage that need to be removed, but trying to punish a population by "bombing them into the stone age" as LeMay touted as the solution in Vietnam, is stupid and pointless, not to mention immoral, esp if it doesn't at least create the needed change on the ground (for instance as it did in ex-Yugoslavia).

So the question remains, what did we/will we accomplish by what we destroyed in life and treasure in Iran? It's too soon for that to be immediately clear, but I'm pessimistic it will turn out to be much.

11 minutes ago, NorthWoods said:

....And I don't recall who or where....perhaps Lynn Henning?   They made the statement that Peck was by a margin the smoothest fielding IF in the Tigers system.

after having the defensive prowess of countless defensive also-rans touted by the Tiger org and media, I've gotten to where I pay almost no attention to what is said about the defensive chops of Tiger minor leaguers. I hope Peck is a good fielder, but I give credence to pretty much nothing that comes out of the Tigers system/Det Media on that score.

9 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

 

 

That sound you hear is a TACO. Trump and the US DOD broke a bunch of stuff, killed some folks -- so Trump is getting ready to declare victory and go home. The IRGC will still be in control. Iran will go right back to having oil money to fund their meddling, and the risk to Americans at home and abroad is now elevated to its highest level in a long time.

12 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said:

Is John Peck making the most noise this spring after KMac ? Soon to be our keystone combination for years. 

yeah - pleasant surprise so far. Someone to watch.

21 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Yet if a RW terrorist throws nail bombs at LW protesters this room melt....

I promise I will note it when it happens.

5 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Is long relief a waste?  It can be a valuable role if Hinch wants it to be.  

yes - that's why I mentioned split starts - or whatever pitching chaos version he spins up.

You might even talk JV into coming into games in the 3rd - it's a spot where he could get some wins even if he can't be effective over 5 full.

6 minutes ago, diaspora04 said:

These seem like reasonable points to me, even coming from Shelton.

LOL - it's a little out of the box. The counterpoint is that Perez, Meadows, and even Keith (though he looks fine so far) do have have options. (The other guy doing well in ST there is no room for is Jung). I tend to see them sending Parker down and letting him force his way back by hitting well at Toledo. On one hand, you're taking away away a guy's spot who finished the season as a 'regular', but OTOH, it's really because Vierling is back, who can be a difference maker with the bat.

6 minutes ago, Shelton said:

Everyone seems to be forgetting this in the rush to replace meadows in CF with Wenceel and/or Javy. 
 

Personally, I hope they stick with meadows in CF for the defense he provides, and if they are compelled to make decisions based on spring performance, just bat him 9th instead of leadoff. If it’s the end of April and Meadows is still lost at the plate, it’s a short drive to/from Toledo for the CF shuttle. 

I think there are two competing ideas at play. The first is is the what you describe, bring guys you want even if they seen slow out of the gate because it's easy enough to make changes in a couple of weeks if it's not just noise. But the second is: how much pressure is there not to scuffle out of the gate. They started great last season, but the two prior years are still in the memory banks.

6 minutes ago, Tigermojo said:

Nobody has options. 

crud. I didn't know he had been called up so many times before (Phi/Chi)- I only remembered that the Tigers had looked at him before he went Korea. That does make it interesting though because they aren't going to want one of their better arms, if that's what he turns out to be, wasted in long relief. Then again, maybe there will be split starts in some other guys' futures.

9 minutes ago, CaliforniaDreaming said:

Outside of injury, there is no way Verlander is not in the starting rotation to start the season....even if Drew Anderson gives up zero runs in spring training.

(If you ask me why, I will tell you that I'm just a dumb poster making claims I can't prove. What comes to mind, though, includes: pissing off the fans who want to see Verlander and, more importantly, will pay $$ to see him...Verlander not being happy about it which can't be a helpful...recognizing it is long season and Anderson will get his chance sooner or later...Anderson being a good option out of the bullpen until needed as a starter.)

I don't take issue with anything but the last line - if Anderson is pitching well but doesn't make the rotation, they will want the 6th starter in Toledo starting so he's ready to start when they want him. This Tiger org hasn't been big on transitioning guys to or from the bullpen on the fly.

1 hour ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

 

 

it's a logical fallacy to believe what is wrong or right in the specific must also be wrong or right in the general, or vice versa. That it is a good idea not to go to work on a day you happen to be sick does not mean you should stop going to work period. The fact that apples are good to eat does not mean every apple is edible. 

Happily, the human brain has the wiring to learn to make such logical distinctions, if the brain in question is willing to make the effort.

the corollary is that platitudes are no substitute for judgement.

5 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

No they aren't robots, but the vast majority of fans don't know enough from a small sample in order to detect whether it's real or just noise.  It's fun to guess though.  

And noise reduction is one of the things that the search for advanced metrics is all about. Launch angle and exit velo are much better indicators of a hitter's hitting health than whether the fly ball was caught!

6 hours ago, Longgone said:

It has nothing to do with "riding the hot hand", it's the exact same sweet swinging Kevin McGonigle, but facing different pitchers and circumstances and randomness that produces very different results in small samples. Baseball is a frustrating game where you can do everything right and still get negative results over the short term.

In the same way you can never step into the same river twice, no human being is the same person two days in a row. In the 24 hrs billions of cells have died and been replaced. In some people's genome that generates little overall change, in other DNA sets the outcome of that turn over is constant change in the overall organism, sometimes better, sometimes worse. In general, only people who are lucky enough to maintain a pretty consistent phenotype ever get to high levels of sports performance, but even then, the genetic timing and injury and repair factors all remain variable and that's before psycological factors are considered in the mix at all.

I'm deliberately over drawing the argument here, but the idea that athletes are robotic automatons is just wrong. Athletic competition exactly selects for the most consistent performers in the population, but that consistency is always on the edge of being lost from both internal and external forces.

All this goes on at the same time that the game injects massive random uncertainty into outcomes. Both are true.

1 hour ago, 1984Echoes said:

FYI: It's strait, not straight.

Straight = straight line.

Strait = thin body of water (as in larger than a river) between two larger bodies of water.

Unless this is just a joke I am missing out on...

LOL - yes. And anyone who lives in De'Troit should know better!

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

You misspelled number five.

When they signed him it seemed the intention was for Anderson to make the rotation. I guess bringing in JV changed that calculus somewhat, but the team had to know going in that JV might end up not being one of the 5 best pitchers, and for that matter that could be true of Flaherty and/or Mize as well. I don't think Harris lacks the stomach to make the tough call if it has to be made, but that that call might be tougher than usual if it had to be JV was always a risk going in.

3 minutes ago, buddha said:

petty tom izzo is the best tom izzo.

I guess maybe because the season is over, but he wasn't half as PO'd tonight as he was after losing to M in the 1st game.

15 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

I'm not a military tactician, but I don't see how you secure the straight without boots on the ground.

Google says Iran has anti ship missiles with 180 mile range and the straight is only 21 miles wide. So they can launch those from 150 miles inland.

they don't even have to use anti-ship missiles, all they need to do if float a bunch of mines out into the gulf that will self-deploy out in the straight.

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As of early 2026, the U.S. Navy's dedicated minesweeping fleet is critically reduced, with reports indicating only about four to eight Avenger-class mine countermeasures ships (MCMs) remain in service, down from a total of 14. These remaining vessels are primarily forward-deployed in Sasebo, Japan, and Bahrain. 

• Fleet Status: The Navy is in the process of decommissioning the aging Avenger-class ships, with plans to replace them with more modern, modular systems and Littoral Combat Ships (LCS) equipped with mine-hunting packages.

I would note that due to litany of procurement problems, the LCS program has been dramatically reduced.

12 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

I'm not a military tactician, but I don't see how you secure the straight without boots on the ground.

Google says Iran has anti ship missiles with 180 mile range and the straight is only 21 miles wide. So they can launch those from 150 miles inland.

and you have to put boots on the ground on the Houthi side as well....

Also - the terrain in SE Iran is very similar to Afghanistan, where we had so much success with ground operations in the past.

On 3/6/2026 at 4:54 PM, Mr.TaterSalad said:

There will be many "Sure Jan" moments during this unjust, unconstitutional war with Iran. Saying the war will last a few days or weeks will be one of them. This is turning into Iraq 2.0 right before our very eyes.

This is way worse than Iraq. The impacts of Iraq were fundamentally local. The impacts here are global.

A huge  mistake Trump has made (among hundreds) is backing Iran so far into the corner that they have nothing to lose. At this point they are perfectly happy to see the whole Western energy economy in the toilet. What's it to them? Trump isn't offering them any off ramp worth taking. Iran knows all they have to do is hold out somehow for a little while 30 days, 60 at the most, and Trump will have to fold. $150+ $/bbl oil with every country at each other's throat trying to insure their own supply, employment down, inflation  up, every multinational will be pouring millions into political efforts to end this. He thought he held all the cards, but he should have read Dune "He who willing and able to destroy a thing is the one who controls it" That's Iran, the Straight of Hormuz and the world's energy economy.

45 minutes ago, Screwball said:

No chart porn, but this is wild. Crude futures over $118 at 10:30ish.

This called having no elastic in the 'Elasticity of Demand'

12 minutes ago, Longgone said:

Hypothetical for you. You clone Kevin McGonicle. Exact same player in every way, and alternate them through the first ten games of spring training. One goes 1 for twenty and makes several errors in the field, and the other goes 10 for 20 and is flawless at short. Which one goes north and which one to AAA?

Hinch is not above riding a hot hand even if he knows the player will be gone by the ASB. Once the season starts, short term results are still results, you take 'em if you can get 'em. The great baseball debate has always been: are players streaky or is it just stochastic noise? The answer is 'Yes'.  The performance of the human machine is the combination of hundreds of factors that just might all align once in a guy's life for a week or month or 3 or even one season and then maybe never be seen again. Other guys will turn in year after year of consistency. OTOH, BaBIP buries a tremendous amount of true performance in its noise generation. But both things are true, always have been. And good teams take advantage of understanding it all.

were they resting Gibson in the 3rd or was he hurt again?