gehringer_2

There was always the chance that the real Tiger team was the team we saw in the September and the team we saw in the 1st half was the one not playing to its mean level. Keith seems to be the only guy that has started the season hot and he doesn't hit for the kind of power that can help carry a team past other guys' underperformance.

26 minutes ago, Tigermojo said:

He's going to the concussion IL for sure.

He was holding his Left arm in completely immobile also. 

5 minutes ago, Hongbit said:

It’s truly amazing they employ 3 guys as hitting coaches yet they miss so many middle, middle mistake fastballs.  It happened all last year too.   

Or just take them. I find it an odd combination. As a team, they K a lot, but they are fundamentally not aggressive hitters, it seems more because they get behind. Tork esp takes a lot of good strike ones. 

Holton wanted no part of Buxton there.

4 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Fun fact: Tigers are a top ten offense in terms of wRC+ and wOBA, and top half in runs scored, right about where they were last year.

Their pitching, however, is 22nd in strikeouts, 23rd in walks yielded, 18th in FIP, 22nd in ERA.

yeah - it always looks bad when a team doesn't score, but sometimes you are going to face good pitching in the majors. Run prevention has been the bigger problem, both pitching and some of their defense.

2 minutes ago, Tigermojo said:

Look Greenland! 

aRtiC SqUiRrEL!

12 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Say whatever you want when comparing Jason and whoever compared to Rod and Mario but it's a fact that when Rod and Mario were doing the games, you didn't have to watch to know what was going on. Many times, I'm doing something around the house and I have no idea what's happening without stopping and looking at the screen. With these guys in the booth now, the game comes second to whatever nonsense they're babbling about. A pitcher is pitching the ball and the announcers are busy talking to Danilla about some greasy hamburger she's stuff her face with. Who cares?? Fans are not watching the game to giggle like a 3 year old, it's serious business with a game going on. Go national, Jason. Bring DD into the TV booth and actually talk about the game that's going on.

<rant over>

this is too true, but I don't know that the decision on how much time is spent away from the PBP  is Benetti's call,

1 hour ago, Crazy Cat Gentleman said:

warning-track power

Too many 100mph EV outs in this series.

2 hours ago, Jason_R said:

Faulk was back the other night, and scored a majestic goal splitting the defenders and finishing a breakaway. Edvinsson had a brilliant move to set up a goal last week. ASP can drive offensive play. Seider is offensively skilled. Even Johansson has flashed some offensive flair. If you don’t have the forwards to drive offense at 5v5, you need to allow your defense to drive offense, and you need a system that has your defensively responsible but offensively limited forwards to cover for them. 

i’ve thought they needed to let the skilled Dmen do more also, but if the forwards can’t or won’t rotate back that can’t work either. 

13 minutes ago, Hongbit said:

I think they need a change of philosophy.  

They need to get back to a dump-chase-cycle system.  They are too reliant on trying to use speed and skill to get in the zone.   It can also reward effort and it’s easier to acquire effort players to fill you bottom 6 than it does skilled guys that can bring it in the zone themselves. 

Along the same lines, they also need to develop some type of checking line that is tough for another teams top lines.  The kind of guys that make them think twice when going in the corner for the puck.  They also need better presence in front of the net.   They need more size and toughness and a little less skill.

 

beyond 3 players they don't have the skill or the speed the play the skill game either.

58 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I think we are at the two-alarm fire stage.

Team is just one run below average run production and a bit above average in Ks. On the other side the pitching has been slightly below league average in almost all categories, including  K's.

But their numbers are not as bad as their results. Pythag puts them at 500.

45 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Trump’s schtick depends on acolytes with memories like goldfish and who get their information only from him. Unfortunately there are many millions of those, and they have votes.

I'm of the view that people get conditioned to "retconning" in all the video entertainment they consume, and the normalization of inconsistency  in the video worlds they consume becomes operant conditioning to the way they process reality. 

Not to mention consuming too much passive video entertainment appears to correlate with brain rot in general.

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/mentally-active-vs-passive-sitting-may-lower-dementia-risk-2026a1000a2w?_gl=1*d9w8ox*_gcl_au*NTU1MzMyNDcuMTc3NTczOTYxOS40NTY5MzUxMDYuMTc3NTczOTczMi4xNzc1NzM5NzMy

21 minutes ago, romad1 said:

with electronics, often the best answer is just restart the gizmo.  Which seems like a dumb tech support type answer but yeah, often the reset is the answer.  

I had a Subaru that did a similar thing maybe twice in 10 yrs  - all the electronics crashed. Just had to restart the car. Of course today, if your car is sitting at your house connected to your wifi, or if it has its own cellular modem, it might be updating SW and either introducing new bugs or squashing old ones on any given day and you might never know. 

25 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

Actually...

She looks like to me that she is channeling Jim Carrey in The Mask.

Melania Mask?

Madame Mask?

 

 

 

LOL - I could place what it reminded me of, but you nailed it!

We can be frustrated with the hitting in general but the pitching lost this one.

3 minutes ago, buddha said:

the problem with a trade now is that you dealt away a lottery pick for justin faulk.  so you dont have the first to trade anymore and i dont know how comfortable i am with dealing another first rounder unless youre getting a star back.

we can rewind to hongbit's argument (and max bultman's argument) about quinn hughes.  should he have given up edvinsson for hughes?  i didnt think so at the time and i still have reservations about it.

that said, they need 5x5 offense and hughes/seider would bring that.

the problem is that i dont think it would be enough because the rest of the team would still suck.  as weve seen.  and more than that, the STARS of the team have sucked.  THAT'S the real reason theyve tanked in march/april the last two seasons.  larkin and raymond havent been good enough.  

and the other reason being yzerman hasnt signed enough good secondary players to help them.  debrincat, yes.  but debrincat fell into his lap.  he could have re-signed gosthisbhere but didnt.  he could have kept walman.  traded for guentzel.  done SOMETHING other than sign quite marginal players.

they signed a 60 year old jvr to PLAY ON THE FIRST LINE!  only finnie's early season hot streak bailed them out there.  and finnie has been bad for most of the second half of the season.

 

yup. The year before COVID I looked at this team with Betuzzi and Larkin and thought - 'They are only a couple of Dmen away from being competitive", and every year since then, there has been this illusion that they are not that far away. So initially the D was terrible and it's improved a lot, then they got an at least decent goalie, but here we are several years later and we find ourselves down to a mere 3 bona fide offensive players. The illusion is gone, they are not close. The front lines have decayed as fast or faster than Seider, Edvinsson and Faulk have built up the D.

Tork deserved to be hit after missing that center cut fastball on a 2-0

So I need to revise what I said the other day about this team likely having trouble with run prevention on 3 out of 5 days. 

I was two days short.

Pretty funny actually.

Not a bad AB by McKinstry - just didn't hit it far enough or low enough

Just now, monkeytargets39 said:

Good job Riley.  😑

doesn't know the K zone and can't barrel the ball. Any other issues?

Keith got some serious EV on that (105). Nice to see.

17  AB, 1H, 1BB,  2K

Well, they aren't striking out a lot....

1 hour ago, buddha said:

we all said the same thing about asp and danielson and they both kind of sucked at the nhl level.

i'm down on stevie right now but i'm not sure bringing up the rookies would have made a positive difference this year.

I'll grant Cossa has been inconsistent, but he was simply outstanding for a long stretch in GR, there is some kind of talent there. Maybe playing 2nd string would have been exactly how to break him in successfully. But we'll never know.

11 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

That's a laugh. I'd take any Chicago Priest in a test of wills with Trump.