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Tigers making loud outs, Torks stuck at 1st.

OK, the Twins have had all the BaBIP luck they have coming.

inning would be over if Torres was playing straight up 🤷‍♂️

maybe Tork needs to play 1st with an OF glove. Knocking down a lot of balls he can't put away.🤔

38 minutes ago, casimir said:

Got an 11 mile bike ride in.  My shirt was half drenched by the end from sweat.  No rain.  Jumped in the shower, got out, and now it’s pouring on there.  Good timing, I guess.

In hot weather on the bike I usually don't care if *I* get rained on, but I always hate having the bike get wet. 

Anyway I've been lazy this week, I sort of/maybe/minor tweaked by back and I'm being super careful with it for a few days. Got out three times last week though.

Just now, chasfh said:

Are you actually concluding that the entirety of our positive record at the time was due to two guys and their win-loss record? Yeah, no sale. 

You are the empiricist here. Going into the same on Sept 1, 2025, they were 22 over, and 18 of that was games started by Mize and Skubal, the rest of staff combined was 4 over. The numbers are what they are. When those guys pitched they won, when they didn't, they were barely 500. That's data, i'm just the messenger.  😉

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

Speaking about the organizational arc, I don't think we are as close to peak Tigers as you might think we are, where the right guy makes all the difference.

 

yeah, I hear that, but all of that margin over 500 was games started by Mize and Skubal. Take those two guys out at the end of this year and you have a huge void to fill. Maybe Melton/Jobe/Olsen can be their equal, but it's not accurate to say we can just add *from* the point we were at in July of 25 because there are major losses almost certainly coming from where that team was.

3 hours ago, chasfh said:

My belief is that the one who bakes the cake gets credit over the one who bought the ingredients.

works for some things  - but certainly not all. If you want a good fish dinner the buyer is way more important than the cook! 😉

33 minutes ago, Jason_R said:

Remember, Mr. I, God bless him, pushed all his chips in on the Tigers too and left both teams crapped out. 

People are saying that Stevie is only still here because of his legacy as a player, but they get it backwards. Only his legacy as a player has afforded him the time to rebuild a franchise that, at its low, had the third worst points percentage in modern NHL history, behind the expansion Atlanta Thrashers. He hasn’t been perfect but we lose sight of how historically awful the Wings got. 

while the saying is apparently not true that the Chinese ideograph for 'crisis' is 'danger' plus 'opportunity', it applies in this case. The Wings are in a stuck place, Yzerman needs a deep move that can make a bigger impact on the roster than anything on the horizon. Heck - a major move for young talent make so much sense for the Wings, maybe Yzerman should have been playing 4 dimensional chess trying to get Larking to ask to be traded.

1 minute ago, buddha said:

how many of those teams were owned by chris illitch?

Sure - It's true Chris I and Yzerman go back a long way, a lot further than most but even that will only go so far. Teams that lose are a big ego downer for billionaires. 

2 hours ago, buddha said:

you talk about him like he's not a team legend and he's just an ordinary, regular ol' nhl gm.

if anything, he'd move upstairs.

and then he'd bolt like Holland did when some one gets the real job? 

Trammell was a legend, Joe Schmidt was a legend, Frank Robinson and Ted Williams and Yogi Berra were legends, they all got fired from management gigs.It only gets you so far. Owners are gonna owner.

2 hours ago, chasfh said:

I don't disagree with your characterization of a 1st degree versus 2nd degree faith, although I do believe that even though they contemplate different things, they manifest in the same way: believers don't need evidence to prove whatever the thing is to them, because they already believe, and that's enough.

The possibility of a priori knowledge - 

IIRC Eric Coe used this gif as his avatar on the old site. Kant spent many hundreds of pages of dense german syntax to prove the impossibility of most of the 'transcendental' knowledge that philosophy had long accepted, including almost all the classic arguments for the existence of God. The work was considered monumental.

Then he wrote another shorter work to try and carve out his own exception to his prior proofs to create an argument for the existence of God - It is largely forgotten. 🤯

Bibi finding out he may the the next discard in Trump's long game of Rummy.

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When previous U.S. presidents sought to tie the hands of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli leader often exploited rifts in U.S. politics to find a friendlier ear in Washington and wriggle free from constraints placed on him.

But Netanyahu is finding that there is no higher court of appeals in his faceoff with President Donald Trump, who has a viselike grip over his party — at a time when Democrats have little or no sympathy for the Israeli leader.

Trump in recent days has been asserting blunt power over Israel in a way no other president has in decades, declaring on Monday that he had forced Netanyahu to turn around an attack that had already been launched against Iran by telling him he would otherwise “end up alone” against Tehran.

The result is an unusually public breach between two leaders who have forged a strong alliance while often facing opprobrium from other nations. But now their domestic political agendas are diverging: Trump wants a quick end to the Iran war, while Netanyahu faces pressure to push on toward total victory against Tehran.

Trump’s warning that he might withhold support for Israel was a departure from long-standing U.S. practice of backing Israel against Iran under almost any circumstance. Netanyahu played a major part in persuading Trump to take part in the initial February attack on Iran.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/06/08/trumps-grip-gop-leaves-netanyahu-with-few-places-turn/

Just burn the 1st amendent, the 14th amendment, the 5th amendment the 19th amendment, then the 16th just for good measure, and re-write the 2nd in all those spots.

Just now, Tiger337 said:

40 million is not a lot for a pitcher of his caliber.  The problem is the years.  Pitchers always get hurt including Skubal three times already.  

notable that in Manfred's comment to ESPN he did not say anything about capping contract terms. I suppose if they really get full TV revenue share and a hard cap Manfred will have done enough to earn his statue.

28 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

No, MAGA is going to drop $50 million in oppo against Platner and all the Dems who supported this filth will look like fools. 

Heck - does the oppo research even matter in today's politics?. (Not talking just Maine). Folks will AI fab deep fakes of stuff whether real or not. In that sense it almost doesn't matter any more - the process is so debased that there is always going to be grist provided for the people on both sides of any issue to grind whether it's real or not. 

6 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said:

Woke up to some substack think piece in my email about how it is actually very brave for Dylan Larkin to do this and it would be soft to stay in Detroit.  Haven't hit unsubscribe that fast in a while!

LOL - yeah - biggest indictment I've seen of Dylan so far is that Carlos Monarrez supports him.

2 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

How did other leagues install salary caps? Were teams forced to let expensive talent go? Or were they grandfathered in, somehow?

good question. But one way to look at it is that it is not credible that you could have gotten the Dodgers (it will cost them about $2B), Mets and Yankees etc on board for full TV revenue sharing if there was any indication there was an intention to penalize  them for their current payrolls - so I think we can rest assured things will grandfathered somehow or another.

21 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Platner is the embodiment of the horseshoe theory. The far left is sacrificing all their principles to support a guy who has the right aesthetic and says the right buzzwords. He's sufficiently anti Jew, at least he says he is, he was very much pro Israel in the past. Buttigieg working at McKinsey was a dealbreaker. Platner working at Blackwater is just shrugged off the same way evangelicals shrug off Trump. Platner is against gun control and that little **** David Hogg supports him but not Peltola. Platner is the first test and Dems are failing miserably. Dems were so united in burying Biden but not this lump of ****. 

he's also playing the to a repentance/redemption trope - he's not Kavanuagh denying he ever was that guy, Platner pretty much admits admits he *was* that guy, so he's not going to argue the details of his reddit posts. You can believe him or not, and you don't, and I don't really care, but it is harder to attack someone for what they don't deny - that's part of his strategy - the only one he could adopt really - but it can work if he can appear authentic consistently in the present tense. If he slips up in the present, if the facade breaks and you see the other guy is still there,  then he's more likely doomed. 

Steve Miller is Nazi because he talks like a facsist today and supports cruelty as policy today. You can call Platner a Nazi because he wore a tattoo or posted a lot of crap, but he's running against all that and that is a difference. So it's all a matter of his *present* credibility, and that's why I think he can survive a lot of what has come out so far about his past. This risk is it does get worse, or he loses that present tense credibility.

8 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Even these idiots get it.

 

Joe Walsh and Bill Kristol advising Dems with the best of intentions. Surely another sign the Apocalypse is at hand.

Just now, romad1 said:

You mean Talarico.  

correct

14 minutes ago, chasfh said:

This is brilliant and makes me consider something I had not before: that faith that the conspiracy is real is a fairly direct analog to faith that Christian god, Jesus Christ, Satan, etc. are real, and that lack of proof of their existence is a feature, and not a shortcoming. It's a test of your commitment.

Paul (supposedly) has it exactly right in the Letter to the Hebrews "Faith is the evidence of things not seen"  This statement functions on two levels (at least) - the 1st is individual - the fact that you believe something is a kind of supra-intellectual evidence - at some level you should trust your sense of what is true sort of a priori (gnosis).  But it also functions at a social level: You should take the faith of other people that what they believe is true as evidence that you should believe it too. We all do the 1st to some degree - it's part of human nature, but to me it's the 2nd that can get tricky and be the more dangerous because it's abdication of your own judgement. We all accept the veracity of various 'authorities', you have to in the modern world to survive, you can't know everything, but it's a life's work to learn how to vet the authorities you decide to accept.

They sent a some kind of drone(s?) out to get the crew that was able to transport them to a point were pick up by Helo was done. Would like to see how that was all configured.

13 minutes ago, romad1 said:

Paxton is probably be portrayed on various RW media feeds as the literal embodiment of Jesus and Uncle Sam who was birthed by an Eagle in the bosom of the Garden of Eden which is located near the hill country of central Texas. 

It will be the job of the RW prosperity gospel evangelical pastors to preach against his 'feminized, empathy wallowing, defeatist" brand of Sermon-on-the-Mount Christianity. Might be interesting to be in the pews for that.

33 minutes ago, KL2 said:

LOL - but it would be a mistake for overpay for Duren, where it wouldn't have been to 'overpay' for Max. 

But they didn't make a serious counter offer to Max, Mike Ilitch instead wanted to fancy himself insulted and after having been snubbed on opening day after winning the CY and generally treated by his manager as Verlander's red headed step brother, it wasn't going to take much for him to want to wave good-bye to Det. 

We seem to be on better terms with JD.