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1 minute ago, Sports_Freak said:

I would be surprised if Skubal loses in arbitration. Back to back Cy Young awards? Comp that, Detroit.

OTOH, if the Tigers are not willing to dig into the couch cushions to find $10M for one year to keep together a potential WS staff, then what are we all here for?

21 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

Yeah, ummm...

I don't think Olson wins a rotation spot based on "we need to get as many innings out of him in Detroit before he goes on the IL again...".

He has the ability to win the 5th spot outright. Heck, he could with the 4th spot or push Flaherty down to the 4th spot...

I just think the 5th starter is an open competition and I won't rule out any possibility.

Plus... Spring Training injuries so, who knows... ?

Olson is going to win a rotation spot based on being able to get guys out better than anyone other than Skubal. The question is can he keep it.

16 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

My worry is the Tigers business plan is to trade Skubal if they lose. Having to pay Skubal what he's asking may not fit into their payroll. Players are overhead in sports. At least, for short sited owners.

The fact that they just committed 38.5AAV to Valdez means an extra $10M could become more significant. But who knows?

2 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

Apparently Harris is going to announce something tomorrow. Seems early to announce for president. Is she going to jump into the California governor's race? If it was a book or a movie or something like that, you would think she wouldn't use the dormant campaign account to announce it.

 

at one point she announced she would not run for Gov of CA but I sure hope she does and doesn't declare for the White House. IMHO, any Dem who has managed to lose to Trump should not be trying again.

20 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

SGL has even more to prove than Olson... healthwise.

SGL has to prove he can get out big league hitters.

I could see this. I think the real argument is going to be between the two sets of owners, the players union is just going to be along for the ride.

idle talk this afternoon on radio that losing the arb case would motivate the Tiger to move Skubal to they would have the money to add enough to counter his loss. I'm just the messenger here.....

6 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I simply don't buy the idea that he's too stupid to know what he's doing yet smart enough to stay on message.

Trump isn't stupid, but he is ignorant. We tend to assume the later always implies the former, but not with Trump.

Trump is ignorant because not because he is stupid but because he has a closed mind. Snapped shut somewhere around 1972 and he's still there.

15 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

this was the only decision the court could reach after Tx, but it's still both tragic and a tribute to the ability of lawyers to lose the forest for the trees that we have a Supreme court that thinks redistricting is OK if it's purely to manipulate election results instead of seeing it as the clear violation of one-man/one-vote that it is.

43 minutes ago, romad1 said:

Said it after the 2024 elections.  We need a whole new media.   The robber barons are going to control all channels and narratives.  

Bezos is making the same mistake at the Post that he is making at Blue Origin, which is trying to run them like Amazon. At Amazon - the bulk of the workforce are commodity. Amazon doesn't need them for who they are, it really does only need their bodies. While that management system - as bad as it is, may work there,  isn't going to work for journalism or high tech manufacturing, because those are places where you do need people exactly for who they are - which means that while you can can get away with pitting workers against each other in a warehouse, you cannot in a fundamentally collegial place like a newsroom or a necessarily deeply cooperative one like cutting edge engineering (he has a forced attrition program in place at Blue Origin). Your develop process is going to grind to a halt when every engineer is trying to steal every other guys glory and no-one trusts or will share anything with anyone. Jacques Nasser pretty well proved this at FoMoCo years ago, but the guys like Bezos just don't want to believe it because their ego doesn't let them admit they don't have the only brain that matters.

16 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

and why should we even take any of this lying-whenever-their-lips-are-moving admin's numbers at face value?

57 minutes ago, buddha said:

you look at the east as being so weak

The conventional wisdom on this has run a bit past the actual numbers. The East is a grand total of 9 games under 500 to the west after about 300 interdivisional games. That's a little more than 1/2 loss per team or about a 48/52 winning percentage split.

11 hours ago, Screwball said:

We ain't voting our way out of this.

I don't know if it's still possible to vote our way out, but for damn sure we voted our way in.

1 hour ago, Hart said:

It didn’t help that Ausar was on the bench for a lot of the crunch time minutes.  Why Deniss Jenkins was in the game guarding Murray is beyond me.  

Ausar ended up on Jokic on the Nuggets 2nd to last possession and he just took it to the hoop like Ausar wasn't even there. Good Peter Principle example.   

1 hour ago, oblong said:

generic ID mailboxes by suppliers so that "everyone can see it and it gets channeled to a central location for support".

Which just means everybody ignores because they thought someone else was going to do it.

Get to have that conversation today with someone.  Last year they were gung ho about introducing it to "streamline" for a particular process.

 

how many hundred years ago did Adam Smith describe the "tragedy of the commons"?

52 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

I have some thoughts on that Avila interview. If anything it only reinforced some views I had of him, both good and bad. If I have time later, will go deeper.

A couple of things I noted. I thought it reinforced that the org was moving too slow because they wanted to give people a chance to get with the new program instead of just cleaning house. The other thing fans should hear was the bit about how teams have to certify to the commissioners office that they have the revenue, not just the assets, to cover the expenses they've taken on. And maybe thirdly that under the ilitches, they don't budget for what they decide to sign, they sign up to what they've already budgeted.

4 minutes ago, Screwball said:

Well, it all comes down to WTF you going to do about it? We ain't voting our way out of this.

But many still think we can. They are delusional.

"We have met the enemy, and He is Us."

--Pogo, 1972

12 minutes ago, Screwball said:

Are we just figuring this out? We have had the big red white and blue stuffed into us as Carlin so eloquently explained in 1991, known as the American Dream skit. You gotta be asleep to believe it.

35 years when you do the math...

Yup. It's should be pretty obvious to anyone who has their eyes open, but the population is economically illiterate. The idea that capitalism is a real thing with moving parts and good and bad properties and sets of predictable outcomes is miles over the head of the average American who is conditioned to never think about these things in more than misty 10sec slogan sound bites. And there are billions of dollars being spent in every political cycle to create enough confusion to make sure the public stays just as ignorant as it is now.

So we reach a point where even Joe 6 pack has realized the system is failing him, but he doesn't know why or how or what should be done about it. So you end up with a lot of very mad but very gullible voters.

1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said:

Trickle down economy has never worked. All $$ eventually trickles up to the rich guys

capitalism is inherently concentrative. You can always make better investments when you can make bigger investments and capital will always concentrate. That's a feature. So if you don't want to end up in a banana republic, you need to support strongly progressive taxation and robust government expenditure on human investment and inheritance taxes. This is not a matter of political philosophy, it's a matter of economic reality.

Of course, it is also one that the rich do their damndest to obfuscate by casting it wrongly as a matter of free market philosophy and personal liberty, and at that they have been extremely successful since 1980.

1 hour ago, Tigger said:

can't easily sculpt a ball in mid air though. Maybe if you put it all in a big magnetic field.....

5 minutes ago, buddha said:

all this assumes a lot, like the fact they ACTUALLY WANT to play together

or that they all even agree on whether they want to play together.  (Sttrangely enough I've been rereading The Brothers Karamazov, so I'm in a mode to question all fraternal claims....😉)

5 minutes ago, Hongbit said:

This decision is so nonsensically stupid and wrong that it should be in the Political forum.  
 

Jan 27th National Championship.  FOH

They're just thinking ahead. It will make perfect sense when the NFL has gone to 24 games and the Superbowl is in April.

SPTTINSTATMF

(somepeoplethinkthereisnosuchthingastoomuchfootball)

10 minutes ago, Hongbit said:

Nobody has any idea what the brothers intentions are but I can tell you that if NJ miss the playoffs this year and next, there may be no Hughes brothers still on the team for Quinn to want to play with. 

but that's the other twist here. Lets say the Devils look like they aren't going to be very good going forward and you are the team that signs Quinn to a 6 or 7 yr deal. Is he then going to spend all his energy lobbying you to bring in his bros from NJ as their contracts expire? Is that going to be good for your team? Are you going to do it even if if isn't to keep your star happy?  

It's all speculation but it's just another thing that needs to at least be in the back of your mind if you decide to deal with a guy with siblings in the league who has already said he wants to play with them.

10 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

No clue honestly.  Using part of their TPE makes it even worse. 

 

are they up against the salary minimum?

21 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Except, they are all white! 

look again.

if that hand looks white to you, you spend a lot of time in places a lot sunnier than MN.