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Mccosky just tweeted the average exit velo on Jobes fastball was 99 mph. Yikes. Has always been my issue with him.

Jobe has such a hittable fastball. I know it’s small sample size, but wow does he get hit hard.

I don’t see Briceño as a future all star, but Tork is averaging about 1 WAR over last 4 years. If we can’t get anything useful for Tork, I think we just need him to be the next Jahmai Jones.

I think it comes down to a) his defense and b) Briceño. Briceño has a 950 ops in the minors and has reached AAA. Ideally Tork would have 350 ABs at DH/1B/PH alongside Briceño and Carp but probably not room for all 3. I think one of carp or Tork will need to get traded this offseason.

I am intrigued by Hope sometime next year, but more interested in Briceño. I’m legit think he is better than Tork today. Any chance he comes up this year? Or to start next year? Of all of Scottie’s moves, rolling out the corpse of Trey Sweeney instead of McGonigle late last year is the most indefensible. Slightly ahead of Outman over Clark this year.

I have been thinking about this and ultimately I would still be pro trade. So much can play out differently. If they make it that far, it’s safe to say someone else on staff stepped up. Who knows how things would play out with Skubal and Mize. If they make the playoffs, regardless of what happens, I would consider deadline a positive. For some reason I am even more engaged on this season without Skubal and Mize. Ultimately baseball is just a form of entertainment and I enjoy in equal parts rooting for the present team and dreaming on the future, so right now I find this season as the best of both of those worlds.

Great article and really highlights how Ryan is viewed. He was arguably a bigger piece than Hope.

I agree with the need for 8+ starters. But I think the plan is Valdez, Melton, Olson, Jobe, Ryan with Anderson and Montero two long relievers with starting potential. Madden/SGL in Toledo. And I still think we sign one FA starter on short term deal. I hope that’s Flaherty. In the unlikely case everyone is healthy, that’s good bullpen competition. I also think Jobe, Olson, and Ryan should start with innings limitations which makes Anderson/Montero (Hurter and De Jesus) more useful as MIRPs.

And solid but not amazing K rate. Good prospect but never had amazing underlying stats in line with a top 5-10 prospect. Thrilled he’s a Tiger just have moderate expectations. River Ryan had higher K rate, better K/BB in minors and I think those are more predictive. Obviously need to consider age but also limited experience Ryan had as a pitcher.

But overall I really like how our rotation sets up next year with Valdez, Melton, Ryan, Jobe, Olson, Montero/Anderson/De Jesus. Most likely we sign a Scott Harris **** sandwich special (Maeda, Cobb, Verlander). I actually hope that is Flaherty for next year. Someone will get hurt but that’s a solid group.

Jobe had the 100mph fastball but very poor extension. He never had amazing results in the minors. He was hyped based on radar gun and draft status. I would be thrilled if he turned into a solid number 4 or 5 starter. I think Ryan can be a 2-3. Obviously both have injury risk.

Agree and I don’t know why this is even debatable. I would take River Ryan over Jobe any day. It’s just he is old relative to prospects so people lose sight of the fact that you are acquiring his contract and he is cheap for the next 4-5 years, which lines up with his prime. The Brewers prospects other than Made weren’t that interesting, especially if reports are true they wouldn’t include a pitcher.

Averaging 3k/9. How can someone so bad be on this team? Not sure who is trolling us more, Harris for having him on roster or Hinch for using him in high leverage situation.

Wonder if Riley will start doing some work at 1B. Tork is bad and needs to be upgraded. Hope should be up sometime next year, but Greenes defense is declining and seems like a Harper like position change will need to happen soon. Meadows and someone like Magleri could platoon in OF. Briceño or Carp and Valcenia split time at DH. I still think Meadows as platoon/defensive sub has value, but especially if Greene moves to 1B (gradually, until Hope comes up). Meadows/Hope/Clark Riley/McKinstry/McG/Keith Briceno or Carp as DH Dingler with bench of Valencia/Max A or Lee/Magleri or similar/Baez Defense would be massively improved. I think Meadows has real value in this scenario.

I am no expert on this, but my understanding is that signing an extension means no comp pick is awarded for a ROY win. The timing of Clark’s promotion (ie waiting another week or two would have preserved his rookie elegibility) didn’t make sense in context of a team selling. Maybe a sign tigers expect an extension? Could also be tigers don’t have as much hope in Clark’s chances to win ROY…