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Not as extreme as Missouri checking off all known out-of-state visitors against a nationwide abortion database and arresting and imprisoning those tourists that appear on that list, for breaking Missouri law while in another state. If they can do it to their own citizens, they can do it to tourists stepping into Missouri for the first time. Once they pass that law, the IUD thing will look downright reasonable. 😉

So, a woman or a girl who might have had an abortion had it been available to them, but was forced to have the baby instead—and it's not as though we'd know one way or the other, since abortion would be illegal and thus outside the bounds of consideration—when these women or girls do have their baby, your approach would be to imprison them? I don't know ... that doesn't sound like a serious solution to me, but I did say this was a serious question, so that means this is your serious answer. My serious reply is, I sure wouldn't do that, and I'm not sure even Republicans would do that. But who knows, maybe you're on to something.

This is a serious question. What do we do with all the additional babies and their mothers, especially the underage girls?

I don't know, anti-aircraft missiles? There must be a way ...

Well, of course she had to vote twice. All good Christian Americans have to vote as many times as possible. How else can they counteract the rampant voter fraud that must surely explain the defeat of our real President?

I thought the second shingles shot without reading anything about it, and the pharmacist who administered it did not say a thing about possible reactions. So I took a long bike ride starting maybe a half hour later. Thought I was going to collapse along the way. I did not even draw a connection to the shingles shot until weeks later.

Chicago Will Be A ‘Haven’ For People Who Need Abortion If Roe V. Wade Is Overturned, Mayor Lightfoot Says Get ready for police checkpoints at the state border—not the Illinois police to control who comes into the state, but the Indiana/Iowa/Wisconsin police who will control who leaves the state. "Hey, lady, what business do you have going to the 'abortion haven'? Oh, nothing in particular? Just visiting friends, you say? Turn around and go home, lady. You're not leaving this state on my watch." That'll have to do until they build The Wall. 😏

I'd like to know what's supposed to happen to the 750,000 extra babies and their mothers, many of whom will be school-age and impregnated without the ability to have given full consent.

Maybe not at first, but now that he has had the taste of presidential power without presidential responsibility, that's not true anymore. Trump is making more money and getting more attention off his stint as president then he ever got before. Plus, he would still have run Trump Media from his White House, because really, who was going to stop him? You? You, Lieutenant Weinberg? Trump didn't do any of the boring president stuff when he was president.

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Serious question.

Serious question: Looking ahead to what is obviously looming on the horizon, one thing I'm wondering is, once abortion is criminalized nationwide, what's going to happen to the 750,000 or so additional babies that will be born in America every year? And what's going to happen to the women and the girls—especially the girls—who've now been forced to bear them? What next?

True, at least as long as you don't have a years-long track record of lipping off in forums like this. 😁

I think the complete opposite: Trump would have started Trump Media which, on the strength of the argument that the 2016 election was stolen from you good conservatives, would have catapulted it to the #1 position among right-wing media, which would have led Republican legislatures to audit the election and pass restrictive voting laws, which would have led to Trump crowing victoriously in his rallies, which would have led to his nomination in 2020, which would have led to his election that year based on two issues: The Big Lie, and the Hillary Administration's to keep twenty thousand people from dying of the Kung Flu. And he would be president right now. Or perhaps Trump would have faded quietly into the background, shrinking violet that he is. Equally likely ...

Yeah, why are we wasting our time talking about stupid shit like abortion when we could be talking about important things like men competing in women's sports? Where are our priorities?

Why isn't the fetus counted in the census? Why is it when there's a miscarriage, there isn't a funeral?

Yup. Abortion is a gateway issue to implementing complete autocracy over all important aspects of American's lives. And if you don't want to have all the important aspects of your life circumscribed for you, then obviously you've been planning to break the law.

That's easy: they can dissolve the Union in the way you suggest here and still maintain that the Union is stronger than ever, and any opinion or evidence to the contrary will be dismissed as fake news.

This. Or else Republican legislatures passing voting restrictions specifically to keep likely Democratic voters from the polls will have done their job. One o the other.

I disagree—I think if Hillary had won, Trump would be president right now.

Well, if they do that, then Trump 47's ICE can arrest them at the border and confine them to a jail cell full of Mexican babies who've been separated by policy from their families.

Children don't vote, either. Do they deserve whatever we foist on them since they can't stop it? This is not the time or place to litigate this exact point, but you know as well as I that it's about more than just who votes or who doesn't (or in too many cases, who can't). A system has been established that has allowed a minority to establish law and policy against the wishes of the majority, and it starts with an electoral process designed over two centuries ago that allows a candidate who gets the second-most votes to win the election over the person who gets the most votes. Speaking only for myself, I think it's fucking asinine. Feel free to disagree.

Gotta hand it to Susie—she works hard on maintaining her brand.

This is exactly what I was going to post if someone else didnt get to it first. The whole point of the leak is to let the steam out of the issue and get all the angry reaction and debate into the open now, so that when they reach their inevitable decision, not only will it not surprise anyone, but it will remove considerable heat from the Court at that moment.

Popular or unpopular doesn’t matter with these religious fanatics. In fact, a central tenet of evangelical Christian fanaticism is the idea that their love of God and devotion to Jesus, such as it is, is unpopular, and they flaunt that as a point of honor. So they actually hope the ruling is unpopular, because that would simply confirm to them the world has rotted to the point that clears the way for Jesus to come back, as foretold by scripture. That’s what their actual hope is. The abortion issue is merely one catalyst leading to it.