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2 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said:

I don't even think the sexual assault stuff matters.   It seems like a lot of people hated him before that ever came to light.  We have a pretty young team, we don't need that poison in the locker room.  

I think that's a reasonable position. That's probably what Dan should've said, and left it at that. 

Dan needs to read up on the Bauer issue. During discovery they got texts from his accuser's phone that she sent to her friend explicitly laying out her plan to extort him. Videos of her next to him while he slept laughing about it. Bauer is a known world-class D-bag, and if that's a deal breaker, cool. But seeing Dan do MLB PR like this is really disappointing.

On 2/15/2024 at 4:51 PM, Edman85 said:

There's a reason Shep wasn't getting national games (Although he did do a couple B1G basketball games back early in the season when there was football and even volleyball overlap)

Shep's decent calling basketball games. 

2 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

If the Lions have another offseason as they did last year and don't come out with any of the marquee free agents, would you be disappointed? Would you be happy if they signed a B-tier free agent that might still be a starter, but isn't exactly going to be your 1A guy at either CB or Edge/DE/pass rusher?

I've just resigned myself to the fact that, unless they can get a guy on a 1 year deal, this is the likely outcome. And getting that type of guy on a 1 year deal is highly unlikely.

21 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

I think you guys are also making a MAJOR mistake thinking we can just let Jonah walk...

I don't think he will be "OVER"-priced...

I think he will be an affordable sign for the Lions. He's not a top 10 Guard in the NFL. His PFF grade for 2023-24 was the 60th Guard. Even if there is context in there and he's a better guard than that... I don't think he's breaking the bank.

He's more valuable than Ceedy Duce. He was critical to our best O-line play, as any substitute performed well below him.

If his AAV is $10-12 mill per year... and I think it ends up closer to $10 mill than $12 mill...

Then he is my #1 priority keeper re-sign.

There are other areas to save money on this team. O-Line isn't one of them. 

Just my 2 cents.

I think you might be right about Jonah. The conventional wisdom is that someone is gonna back a Brinks truck up to his house, but I'm not so sure about that. Someone might give him that bag -- and all it takes is one team -- but his injury history might make teams wary about going big to get him. 

22 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Yeah, just a dream. He would probably cost too much revenue in contract and draft picks. I hope Holmes can find a Crosby in the draft. Draft defense!

Yes! That's what I'm hoping for. I still think we need to upgrade via FA or trade, though, for the immediate future.

It's not like the Raiders are the Panthers or the Pats. They have a decent defense and good weapons on offense. Give them a legit QB and they're a playoff team. Yes, the Raiders do dumb things, but not even they are dumb enough to move Crosby.

1 hour ago, Sports_Freak said:

I wonder if Holmes could swing a deal for Maxx Crosby?

I wonder if Telesco could swing a deal for Penei Sewell?

10 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

I did a way too early mock offseason. My numbers and players are likely way off too, but I had fun doing it.

Current Cap Space: $47,678,386

Lions Players Cut/Not Resigned

Hal Vaitai, Jerry Jacobs, John Cominsky, Jonah Jackson, Levi Onwuzurike, Matt Nelson, Michael Badgley,

Romeo Okwara, Shane Zylstra, Tracy Walker

Cap Space After Cuts: $59,549,598

Lions Players Resigned

Benito Jones: 2 years/$2.11 million total

Brock Wright: 3 years/$4.225 million total

Chase Lucas: 2 years/$1.97 million total

CJ Gardner-Johnson: 1 year/$6.5 million

Craig Reynolds: 1 year/$1.08 million

Dan Skipper: 1 year/$1.125 million

Donavan Peoples-Jones: 2 years/$3 million total

Graham Glasgow: 1 year/$1.47 million

Jake McQuaide: 1 year/$1,210,000

Jalen Reeves-Maybin: 1 year/$1.21 million

James Houston: 2 years/$8 million total (only year 1 is guaranteed money, year two is incentives)

Josh Reynolds: 1 year/$1.2 million

Kayode Awosika: 1 year/$875,000

Kindle Vildor: 2 years/$3 million total

Khalil Dorsey: 1 year/$875,000

Nate Sudfeld: 1 year/$1.035 million (Emergency QB)

Tyson Alualu: 1 year/$1 million

Will Harris: 1 year/$1.125 million

Zonovan Knight: 1 year/$850,000

Salary Cap After Re-Signings: $45,981,430

Lions Players Extended

Amon-Ra St. Brown: 4 year/$92 million with $61 million guaranteed (I used Deebo Samuel's contract as a comparison) 

Jared Goff: 4 years/$168 million total with $88 million guaranteed 

Cap Space After Extensions: $15,336,494

Major Free Agents Signed

Danielle Hunter DE: 2 years/$23 million

Stephon Gilmore CB: 1 year/$6.5 million

Robert Hunt OG: 2 years/$4.5 million

NFL Draft

1st: TJ Tampa/CB, 2nd: Jonah Ellis/DE, 3rd: Mike Sainristil/CB, 3rd: Roman Wilson/WR, 4th: Will Putnam/C-G, 5th: Caedan Wallace/OT, 7th: Joshua Karty/K, 7th: Evan Anderson/DT

Amon-Ra is likely to get $25m at a minimum, and Goff north of $45m.

4 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

Talk yo' s**t. Brad was feisty today.

I don't think Sutton was ever considered a No 1 CB, was he? I think Mosely was expected to be our No 1 with Sutton the No 2, where I think he'd have been fine.

3 hours ago, MichiganCardinal said:

I'm not sure what happened to Sutton. He was one of the most under-appreciated players on the defense through the first eight weeks or so and then fell off a cliff in the playoffs. The competition was better, but it almost looked like he lost a step somewhere along the line due to injury or fatigue.

It started when AG and Campbell decided to dial up the blitzes, which left Sutton on an island with the top receivers in the league. It was what Campbell was referencing when he said "You have to give up something to get something," and it worked overall. Sutton was getting cooked on a weekly basis, but the team was getting to the QB more and giving up fewer points.

Yes. Ben Johnson interviewed so poorly with WASH that the team made a point to fly out to DET to interview him a 2nd time. Sounds legit.

I hope they get their most pressing needs in FA or via trade, because A) you can better project what you're gonna get wrt performance, and B) I don't think Holmes considers immediate needs as much as he does ability/character in the draft.

Glenn has never had anywhere close to the talent that Ben Johnson has had. He's basically got half an NFL starting D-line, 2/3rds an LB corps, a number 2, a solid slot and a bunch of stop-gaps at CB. Safety is about the only position where he has anything close to a complete group. Considering haw few horses he's had, I think AG has done a pretty good job. I'd like to see what he can do with a better stable. 

36 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Do we think Holmes is going to draft for need this year or will he go BPA, regardless of position?

He will go for BPA, and Lions fans will freak out if the BPA does not align with immediate needs. I prefer that he fill immediate needs through FA and trades, tbh.

Cam's problem is that he's a no. 2 CB who was tasked with covering everyone's no. 1 receiver. The Lions need to acquire a legit no. 1 CB, and Cam will be fine. Adding to the D-line so they can get pressure with four will help the entire secondary.

11 minutes ago, NYLion said:

I don't think Sutton should be cut, he struggled because due to the Moesley injury he was thrust into #1 CB duty which he's ill equipped to handle. He'll be better when, I assume, Holmes gets a #1 CB this offseason and pushes Sutton back to #2 CB where he belongs.

And when our pass rush isn't ass.

Brandon Perna is a Broncos fan who loves him some Detroit Lions.

On 1/18/2024 at 7:26 PM, Cruzer1 said:

Jonah is gone, he's going to get a big contract, and the Lions have to pay others.

Maybe, but considering his injury history, maybe not. He'll definitely get decent money, but I'm not so sure he's getting the huge deal that so many others assume he's gonna get.

I hope they can add legit interior and edge D-linemen, because that alone will help the CBs. Sutton isn't a number 1, though, so that also needs to be addressed. I expect Glasgow to be retained, but they need another Glasgow-type signing to hold the line in the offensive trenches. I wonder if Jonah will get the big deal from some other team that everyone assumes he's gonna get considering his injury history.

If it's a four year deal, I think it'll be closer to $180m, but we're in the same ballpark. Will be interesting to see how much guaranteed he gets. 

1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said:

Goff isn't getting a $400 million deal. 

He's gonna get around $200m give or take depending on whether it's four or five years. And he's earned it.

Awesome season somewhat tarnished by a final horrid half of football to close it out. Still the single greatest season of Lions football of my life, and I'm old. Looking to next season, I think they must upgrade the CBs, D-line -- interior and edge -- and find reliable O-line depth, in that order. I don't expect huge splash FA signings, but I suspect they'll be active looking for value and/or depth. I wouldn't rule out a trade, either. Holmes will draft BPA, which will frustrate Lions fans if the BPA isn't a position of immediate need. I'm excited to see how everything fleshes out, not to mention for their new unis.

You want Campbell to kick those FGs, then you want Campbell fired. Going for it like that is in large part how the Lions got to this point. You either accept those calls or demand he be fired.