RedRamage

Yeah, I'd agree with this: I'd prefer to win against a full strength KC team vs. win against a weakened KC team. However, I'd prefer to win vs. lose and a weakened KC team makes winning more likely. There's always going to asterisks for any game. If the Lions lose was it because Jamo wasn't on the field? Or maybe Hutchinson had a bad cold or refs blew a major call? If the Lions win and KC was at full strength was it because Jones wasn't up to speed yet? Or maybe Mahomes stubbed his toe bad in practice or they just looked past the Lions? Or maybe the refs blew a major call and it went in favor of the Lions for a change? If the Lions beat KC because Jones doesn't play and Kelce is a bit gimpy... I'm still going to celebrate and consider it a great win. If KC wins I doubt any fan will look at it and go: "Well, sure, but the Lions didn't have Jamo and Mosley wasn't at 100%, plus ARSB was a little dinged up still from preseason so it wasn't a real test."

I think this is what had people speculating so much... and everyone who did also acknowledged that it was massive speculation. The scrubbing of the Lions from social media sure made people think he wasn't going to be on the team. So if he wasn't going to be on the team, why was he still on the team? The logical conclusion was that a trade was in the works. But if so, why was it taking so long when the player had been informed? The logical conclusion was that it was with the Chiefs. The Chiefs had a player who was holding out... the Lions had a need at that position... the Lions could be sending back a (lesser) player of the same position as the Chiefs would want some depth there... and the trade won't happen until after the game. It all fit. It all made sense. It was all wrong, but it made more sense than that a player that seemingly wanted to be in Detroit was throwing a tantrum because he was being pushed down the depth chart.

Mahomes needs to be told that he's massively underpaid. He definitely needs a bigger contract. He should hold out.

Crap... I mean... I don't wish injury on anyone, but I also wouldn't be overtly upset if on Wednesday it was still tender and maybe a bit swollen.

Some how I missed this when it came out a few months back...

But if the Chiefs are without Kelce or Jones we can counter that with the Lions being without Jamo and Buggs... so it's kinda even.

Campbell addressed the Buggs situation in his press conference: A little vague, which isn't surprising. Seems very much like @MichiganCardinal's idea. The coaches just didn't see quite the same out of Buggs that they saw in others so he was a healthy scratch. Buggs seemingly took it poorly.

That seems like a plausible situation... not them saying he was being punished, but he could be interpreting it that way.

Right... that's the part that makes me think the Lions aren't trading. I'd assume that Jones wants a long term deal at that $30M/year range... at least three years. I don't seem Holmes doing that. The Lions would also need to adjust some stuff to get that $30 inside the cap. They're like $13M under cap right now I think... add in $2M for trading Buggs. That still leaves in the range of $15M needed.

Depends why. Assuming that he's just a healthy scratch (which I think is more likely than some mystery trade) then the two prevailing theories I've heard: 1. Punishment for missing voluntary practices. This seems to be the idea floated by Buggs, but this seems very counter to Holmes/Campbell, especially given that Buggs' kid was being born. (Note this is all just speculation based on limited bit of info.) 2. KC is not a run heavy offence and Buggs biggest strength is run defense. The Lions prefer other linemen who are better in coverage and/or QB pressure. If the reason he's not playing is #1... that's not anything I'd find encouraging as it seems petty on the Lions part. If it's #2... that's encouraging because it shows smarts from the coaching staff and an uptick the talent level of the team.

I think the fact that Buggs practiced rules out a trade. Although, I supposed one could argue that Buggs would be a throw in piece for any trade for a big name player, so if he did sustain a major injury they could always swap in another piece and/or add draft picks. Honestly the only trade that would explain a delay in the trade happening would be with KC for Chris Jones. According to one report I saw Jones is looking for a $30M a year deal. That seems very high. I'm also not sure if a guy holding out is the type of guy the Lions would want to add to the team. (For the record, the NFL where there is no guaranteed contracts, is one of the few areas where I tend to side with the players in hold outs. So I'm not saying Jones is a bad dude or anything and obviously Holmes and Campbell would be involved in talking with him I'm sure.)

Must win! If we lose this we need to blow it all up and start over.

Given also that you had Badgley, who was accurate enough in close put didn't have great range... I mean it seems to odd that Badgley was dropped in favors of pretty much the same skill set that you have to use assets to acquire... and now it seems Riley isn't good enough? As much as Holmes has done a fantastic job in nearly all areas of building this year, kicker is an area he's whiffed on.

I'd be very surprised if Houston gets traded.

It was a Hurricane, then downgraded to tropical storm before it made landfall, then was downgraded to a "subtropical cyclone" early Monday, so it was decreasing in strength. That said, you're right that it's an area that doesn't normally deal with this and I see reports that schools are closed today in LA. FWIW, I suspect it's far easier to move an MLB game than an NFL game. MLB team (and everything associated with them... media, stadium employees, opposing teams, etc.) are used to performing 6-7 days a week. It would be harder to move all the employees from Sunday to Saturday I would think for an NFL event. Given also that the stadium is indoor I can see the NFL being reluctant to move barring a serious disaster level event. So, the question is: Was it a serious disaster level event?

I'm not worried about Glenn based on the preseason. You're not scheme for the team, you're not playing your best guys, you're not using your best plays AND you're trying to specifically see how some people handle specific situations. Obviously this does NOT mean Glenn will be good in the regular season. He doesn't have the track record that Johnson does, so I'm not saying that it's a non-issue. But I'm also not going to look at defense schemes in the pre-season and form an opinion of the DC based on that.

While I think it's kinda hard to just a QB when they're: 1.) Slated to be 3rd String at best and 2.) They're playing with the 3rd and 4th string players... I agree that it seemed very much that Sudfeld was locking on to a target and not doing anything else. Such clear "locking on" read 1 is not a product of playing with 3rd and 4th string guys. That's a QB failure right there. Now, I suppose it's possible that the coaching staff was telling Sudfeld to throw to this guy or that guy because they wanted specifically to see how that player handled the in game situation. That seems unlikely to me, but I suppose it's possible. I'm not going to get too bent out of shape if the Lions retain Sudfeld as 3rd string QB. The fact of the matter is that NO 3rd string QB is going to be very good at the NFL level. If the Lions find a way to upgrade over Sudfeld I would expect that QB to still be pretty bad. Don't misunderstand: I think the Lions should try. I'm just not holding my breathe that we'll find a quality 3rd string guy.

I feel a bit better in that this is a 5-man unit vs. 1 or 2 guys... I mean, if one of the 5 goes down with an injury hopefully the other 4 starters + 1 backup will still be decent. Obviously if we start losing a 2nd or 3rd OLmen then we're in trouble.

Did MLB move them because of concerns of danger or the (pretty much) 100% chance of rain out?

Yes, it was contingent on him making the roster. However, even if it wasn't... it's only a swap of 6th round for a 7th round. That wouldn't have been the end of the world.

I wouldn't be opposed to heavily incentive laden contract where we basically pay him league minimum plus big performance bonuses. But don't give him a bunch of money or a long term contract.

But for those of us expressing concern, that's part of the concern! You know the old cliché: The best ability is availability. Look, injuries aren't a players fault (for the most part). The suspension, as I said it's debatable who's fault it is. But regardless of who is or isn't to blame, Jamo has seen very little in game action and won't see anymore until week 7. As of right now we've got exactly 1 catch for 41 yards (TD) and 1 run for 40 yards out of a mid-first round draft pick made last year and that's all we'll get until October, at the soonest. Again, I would love for y'all to come back to me at the end of the season and laugh at my concern. I just have this nagging doubt that we're going to get great production from this pick. I want to be wrong.

The comparison isn't so much that Okudah and Jamo are having the exact same issues... it's more that there's just one thing after the other... With Okudah it was: He's a rookie... he's got a bad coaching staff... he had nagging injuries... Oh wait this year, he's starting to look good-- BAM: Season ending injury. Okay this year he's starting to emerge as a true 1st round pick... and now he's dropping off to much he's a healthy scratch. And now he's traded for a 5th round pick and oh... look at he's injured again. With Jamo: He's coming back from a huge injury. Okay, he's health and look at that a TD on his first catch! Oh, but no he's a non-factor for most of the reason of the season because he's still nursing an injury and he's learning still. But this year it's like an extra 1st round pick-- BAM: 6 game suspension. But we'll at least see him in training camp-- BAM: Out for the rest of camp with an injury. In either case here, I'm not trying to blame the player. Injuries are mostly unavoidable... they can't help it when it happens. You can argue how much the gambling is the NFL's, the Lion's, or Jamo's fault. Not the end of the world by itself. So I'm not trying to dog on Jamo and say it's all attitude, or being fragile, or whatever. It's just the cumulative things that make me worry that there will always be the next thing that prevents Jamo from being what we were hoping we traded up for.

I truly hope you are right. I would LOVE to be wrong with my nagging doubts.