RedRamage

Tigers threaten, but do not score.

So... what's everyone's thoughts on Skubal and a trade before the deadline? The Tigers still had a legit shot of resigning Skubal and it would be stupid to trade him. While I don't think the Tigers will resign Skubal, the season is still young. The Tigers may bounce back and we should hold onto Skubal to help with that playoff run. Time to pull the plug on this year. The Tigers aren't doing anything and even if Skubal comes back to Cy Young caliber pitching tomorrow they're still not doing anything. Trade him for as much talent as you can get. Now OBVIOUSLY we're not even close to the trade deadline right now so there's plenty of time yet... and I'm not even sure if you can trade a player on the IL if we were near the deadline. So, there's time to see what might happen between now and then. But, where are you sitting right now? What camp are you in? 1, 2 or 3?

13 strike outs. 0-5 with RISP 4 starters with an Average below .200 - one with an average of .000! Only 3 starters with a OPS over .700. This team is very, very hard to watch right now.

His stats in 2026 are OBP .311 - SLG .371 - Now again he's very young, so power may develop.

Rainer's gonna have to learn to strike out less if he wants to be the future SS... Dude's got 59 Ks already this year... he's near a .440 K%. I know he's young and I know he's recovering from injury last season, but last year he had 33 Ks in 145 PA before getting hurt. He's very nearly doubled his Ks in only 134 PAs so far this year.

Side question... if when there's a lock out for much or all of 2027, will the minor leagues still play?

Ummm.... maybe?

I dunno if I'd consider that a comfort right now.

According to the rule it has to be clear evidence to over turn a call, right? So, one could argue that even though it looked like Workman was safe, it just wasn't clear enough to over turn. Benetti made the argument that this isn't how we've seen it applied to challenges over the season, but if you want to go by the strict rule, then yeah... you could argue that maybe there just wasn't enough there. So, what about Perez at first? Supposedly there was clear evidence... we haven't seen it, at least not yet. I'll certainly accept that there might be a view that we haven't seen that makes it clear, but I'd sure like to see it. As for this last one: If I'm just judging by some of the replays, I'd say I'd probably call him safe, but... it certainly isn't perfectly clear. There's no smoking gun there in my opinion that says it's obvious he was safe. It sure seems like they applied that the idea of: "He's probably safe based on what we can think we can see, so overturn it." Which of course ISN'T what they did with the Workman play. Of course I reserve the right to change my opinion on this if we see better video in the future.

OBVIOUSLY this is gonna go against Detroit.

Detroit vs. Everyone I guess... My word.

Should be 4-3 now...

But did he send her texts while on team property or in a team hotel? Did he cross the street before sending the text?!?

Yeah, it's one thing to cheat on your spouse, it's another if you were sharing team secrets. I know that seems really callous to say, but looking at it from the team's perspective it's true. It's the same reason why sports handles things like cocaine use differently than something like gambling. Society looks at one as being much worse than the other, but in sports the gambling is a bigger "sin."

It's not the only consideration, but it can be a big one. But beyond just salary, there's the offer of a higher payroll.

If either or both of the 3rd rounders were more than complete duds I'd agree that it's an A or even A+ draft. I get where both of you are coming from: MB: You got FOUR A+ players... how can this be anything other than a spectacular, A+ draft? MCS: You got ZERO production out of TWO 3rd round picks. Can't give a perfect score for a draft with that. On one hand this has to be one of the best drafts by any team in terms of star players acquired. All four of those players could end up being HOF players. And yet... it could have been more.

Haven't read the whole thread so maybe others have already said this, but I think you're being too hard to on the 5th & 7th round picks. By the time you're hitting the late rounds of the draft you're getting backup level players. Sorsdal has been a backup player. How do you rate players taken in the 5th, 6th, or 7th rounds? Do you rate them based on the product of the player himself? Or do you rate it based on the the expected value at that pick? If you rate it based on the player himself, then sure... a D, maybe D+. But then you need to weight that grade when looking at the draft. A bad grade in the 5th round should count a LOT less than a bad grade in the 2nd round. Personally I think when you're grading a draft you're grading the Front Office, not the players. So I think it's far more fair to grade based on expected value. In this sense I expect a solid backup player in the 5th round... Sorsdal has maybe been a bit under "solid backup," so maybe a B+ grade for the value we got from that position. In the same way 7th rounders are people I'm generally happy to see actually make the team and play in a handful of games. I'd give a C+ grade on the Green pick.

But, does he stare at you from his suite when you attend games?

Yeah, but Safety was a bigger need, so... looks like Holmes is back to BPA over need. I'm vindicated!

If they take a safety this round @buddha gonna have a field day with all of us! 🙂

I think it's too early to tell on that. He wasn't super productive last season, but he was coming back from an injury as well, so it's possible he'll be back to his old self this year.

It's very strange... there are other TCU players listed in the draft and they do have TCU as their school. If you look at prospects and filter those with no college there are three players listed: Bud Clark, of course, and Joshua Weru, a rugby player from Kenya, and Uar Bernard, a player who was in some NFL camps in Afrcia (originally from Nigeria).

Just noticed this while scanning through the second round... why isn't TCU listed as the school for Bud Clark?

I mean... he was right in the sense that the Ravens took and Edge right after the Lions... we'll never know for sure if they would have taken Moore over Young if they were both on the board. Probably the most telling would be how the Ravens draft room reacted... not sure if they release any of the video or not. I said before and I'll say it again: At this point I'm still in the "in Brad we trust" camp.

Well, there were a few edges taken before Moore, so it's possible that they could have been ranked higher and Moore was just the highest rated left.