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That seems like a lot for Simmons.

This is from: https://www.footballguys.com/article/2023-williams-mock-draft-2 I think I'd do that trade. Get a second 1st and 2nd rounder next year when there isn't a guy that I think is lock pick for the 6th pick right now. I don't love losing pick 81 but we would also get 119. Interestingly they have Carter falling all the way to 26. I don't think I'd mind the Lions taking a shot at Carter at 18 or 23 if it played out this way. FWIW, they have the Lions taking Brian Branch (S) at 18 and Drew Sanders (LB) at 23.

Darn good thing we got Boyd out of there isn't it?

Yeah, I mean I guess... I don't see it working personally. I don't see a GM at the 8-10 range going: "Oh man, he dropped to me and he's supposed to be a clear cut top 10? Well, then I'm grabbing him!" What I do see happening is teams in the 11-15 range going: "He's an undeniable talent, but I'm worried about the red flags. Sure wish I had an opportunity to interview him one on one to try to answer some of those questions. Without that chance I just not sure I'm gonna take a flier on him."

So that's what Carter was doing between the Combine and pro-day...

I know there's a limit on how many players a team can bring in, but there isn't a limit on how many teams a player can visit, is there? I'm trying to understand the move here as I'm sure it's coming from the agent, not from Carter himself. I mean, I suppose it's possible Carter is calling this shot, but I can't see any agent agreeing to that unless s/he thought it was a good idea too. The only thing I can think of is that they're trying to play like Carter's stock isn't dropping or in jeopardy from the various things that have happened. Like: "Yeah, we're so confident that we're going in the top 10, there's no need to even talk to anyone else." Personally this seems like a super stupid move by Carter's agent. This feels like it's coming off as arrogant. I think Carter visiting a bunch of teams and having good interviews with them would be a way to really raise his stock and maybe get a team to trade up for him if he starts to slip a bit. I wonder if the agent is worried that Carter won't interview well?

I think you'd have to be a very cold hearted person to not second guess the whole incident and at least feel some remorse, justified or not. However, I would expect that to have effected him more when it happened. Two months later I don't expect to see super lingering feelings. I do think it is possible that him getting charged with doing something wrong effected him mentally, and this might have played some part into his poor pro-day workout. That said, if it did play a part that doesn't excuse his pro-day... it might explain it and again if that is what happened it's one more data point to put into the equation when you try to calculate who Carter actually is.

Alright, I see a lot of smack talk going around re: Carter and think many of y'all are being way to black and white on this. There's a possibility that: 1. Carter is just a kid who made some dumb mistakes, but the consequence of those mistakes are sitting so heavy on him right now. He's learned his lesson is a horrible way and he just hasn't been able to concentrate on football matters much, which explains being out of shape for his pro-day. But as I said he's learned his lesson, he's on the straight and narrow now and really to prove all the high drafts on him are right, just give him the chance. 2. Carter has gotten by on talent alone and assumed everything would just fall in place naturally for him. He just never figured any drinking and drive would lead to any danger and it's just dumb bad luck that the other people died. He's entitled and letting all the draft talk go to his head and just expecting to be a top 10 pick and rake in the dough. Of course, the reality is that probably both #1 and #2 are wrong and really it's somewhere in the middle. That's were we need the people making the big bucks to be looking into him and digging up whatever bits they can to paint the most accurate picture on Carter. I honestly don't know where Carter falls between 1 and 2. If you can place him at 1.3 or less, I'd probably be happy to take a flyer on him. If it's more like 1.6 or higher... then I'd say pass. And now you're asking: "This ain't news to any of us... what's your point?" My point is stop talking in absolutes. Recognize that it's possible there are enough red flags that Holmes/Campbell know that we don't that they aren't going to draft him, even if he's top tier talent. Recognize also that Holmes/Campbell have a lot more info than we do and it may be good enough for them to risk drafting him.

I'm SHOCKED... just SHOCKED.

It could be they want Carter and so by leaking this news they are trying to make it look like even the Raiders are so worried about his character that someone like the Lions, who usually avoid character issue guys, should really stay away. In other words trying to keep people ahead of the Raiders from drafting him. It could be that the Raiders are trying to make it look more like they'll be drafting the guy that teams after them are targeting. If a QB falls past the Lions and Carter is still on the board if you don't think the Raiders are going to draft Carter and you do want that QB, you might try to trade up for fear the Raiders take the QB. Are either of these things likely to massively sway an opposing front office to make the do what you want them too? Probably not. But if a front office was close to doing something anyway this might be the nudge that pushes them in the right direction for you... and it costs you absolutely nothing, so why not try?

I will believe this only when (if?) Carter is available at 7 and the Raider pass on him. This very well may be a true story but this is the time of year where one could never take any comments coming out of an NFL front office at face value. I think it's just as likely that this is misinformation intentionally leaked vs. real info that slipped... heck, it's probably more likely that it was intentionally leaked.

I didn't subscribe to their service last year but my brother did and he also reported nothing but problems. He was doing it more for RedWings than Tigers but had issues connect, constant buffering and dropped connections.

If you purchase their plan then sure... you can watch it on their site. Otherwise if you have Bally Sports with your TV package you should be able to sign-in through your TV provider and watch it. If not, then you're out of luck for ways to watch it legally.

I just did a quickie measurement using Google Maps. The current space has an area of around 1M sq ft or about 23 acres... so not nearly enough. Just for the fun of it... This is about 28.5 acres.

I guess that also raises the question: Would this rule eliminate normal onsides kicks or just add the 4th and 15 option? If it eliminates normal onsides kicks then it eliminates surprises onsides kicks too... which I also don't like.

Just put a scale in the floor tiles and secretly weight him.

I think the idea is that the Lions have addressed all (most?) of their needs in FA so they are ready to go with best player available and if that BPA is a QB, well then... that's who they'll draft.

I'd be VERY happy with that trade myself. We get a solid DT, we still have a 1st coming up at 18, and we pick up a second first for next year? Sign me up.

That trade would make me think Holmes was secretly still working for the Rams.

I could be wrong, but I tend of think that if he were sick that we would have heard about that by now. Obviously that's not 100% certain, but I have to think his camp would be releasing that information. Heck it wouldn't be that hard to turn it into a positive: "We apologize for those who came to see Carter at his pro-day. Unfortunately Carter was suffering from a a bad illness. Many were urging him to not do the workout but Carter insisted, not wanting to let down those who had traveled to see him. He felt he could still provide a good showing but because of his sickness he wasn't able to perform nearly up to his normal standard."

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-considering-several-major-rule-changes-for-2023-touchbacks-could-be-modified-on-both-punts-and-kickoffs/ One of the rule changes is do what the XFL and apparently the USFL are doing with regards to an onside kick. Instead of the onside kick the proposal is a 4th and 15 or 4th and 20 from your own 25 yard line. If you convert, you keep the ball. Honestly, I think it's probably easier to do that than the onsides kick so I'd prefer to keep the onside kick.

Bats with embedded RGB LEDs. Kids these days are all about the RGB.

I honestly think most people would be fine with them drafting Carter. I think most of us would assume that Holmes and Campbell feel they can get a good player out of him. Now, 2 years or so later we might be losing our minds and falling over ourselves with "I told you so" talk, but I think most reactions will relative tame. In fact, here's my reaction... I've pre-written my script: It surprises me that they do this. I'm worried that he isn't going to pan out in the NFL but I trust, at least right now, Holmes and Campbell. They've obviously done their homework and their getting paid millions to do the job... I'm just some guy behind a keyboard, so I hope they are right... But I reserve the right to say "I told you so" at a future date if needed.

I put in a prompt for an AI art generator: Lions and Tigers fighting. I think I'm gonna make this my avatar!