SeattleMike

15 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Right, Skubal is nothing like a workhorse ace, which are generationally rare unicorns. But he's what Harris/Greenberg have inherited so he's what we have to try to count on for now, at least until whatever players this front office brings aboard through draft or trade or free agency move into a position to become the dominant, franchise-leading forces that ring-winning teams need. I think we are probably years and years away from that happening.

I think Jobe has a strong chance to be that guy. 

30 minutes ago, Toddwert said:

Red Sox fire Chaim Bloom today 

Dombrowski is probably smiling. 

5 minutes ago, lordstanley said:

When Olson is on, he’s really on. 6 Ks and no hits in 3 1/3 innings so far. 
 

 

And for Daniel Norris

13 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

Jung ties it in the 9th with solo HR; hits 2 run HR in 10th; Bigbie hits HR as well.

4 HRs in 2 days for JJ

Jung is starting to really intrigue. Read somewhere that his defense is acceptable at 2B. Could be the answer there. 

22 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I think we’re gonna see Maton on the 26 at some point next year. He is not toast yet.

He’s 26. If he hasn’t figured it out by now unlikely he ever will. 

8 minutes ago, AZTigersfan said:

Yes that’s true. I just would like an even mediocre offense but these guys aren’t that. They are a tough team to watch at times with their terrible approaches and abs Hopefully next year we can put more that 2 or 3 acceptable hitters in our lineup. 

I don’t know that their approaches stink, with the exception of Baez. They just lack talent. 

1 minute ago, Tigermojo said:

Maton with a cycle in the seventh inning for Toledo.

AAA is beer-league softball this year. 

11 minutes ago, AZTigersfan said:

Sheesh, I really wish we’d stop making mediocre pitchers look like cy young candidates. 

What do you expect? Six of the guys in today’s lineup have an OPS+ below 90. Another is a rookie heading in that direction. Any semi-competent MLB pitcher can handle a lineup like this. 

22 minutes ago, tiger2022 said:

I think another issue was that no one would call their teammates out for actions like Gibson and Morris because they would be ostracized.  It was probably the same reason why UM, Penn St, OSU, MSU coaching staff who knew what was going on with their doctors/training staff pretended it wasn't happening--it was the good ole boys network.  Entitled people know they can get away with stuff and they will not face any consequences.  Basically, absolute power corrupts absolutely.  

11 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Pretty much

Point of clarification on MSU. This one had nothing to do with the good old boy network. Nasser targeted athletes coached by a woman. He got away with it because no one at the university really cared about the gymnastics team and, more importantly, he was able to abuse with near impunity under the guise of a procedure many in his field deemed medically effective. He even duped the FBI. 

8 minutes ago, chasfh said:

By the way, I just now looked it up, and for the last 28 days, Jeimer is slashing .183/.253/.390 for an OPS+ of 71. So … maybe not 2/20 plus option after all … 😁

They can't all be Miggy I guess. In his prime with the Tigers, 2008-2016, Cabrera had one month below a 100 OPS+ (93 in 2015) and an additional three months below 110 OPS+. He had only four months in a 9-year period where he had an OPS below 800. Remarkable consistency. 

25 minutes ago, CMU97 said:

Thank you! My highest percentage was chet lemon at 6 or 8%, I probably could have done better with someone like Steve Kemp, Ron LeFlore or Dave Stegman. But of course I thought of all those after Lemon.

The things you learn playing this game, like Phil Cavarretta, who played a million seasons with the Cubs, never had a 100 RBI season. 

6 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said:

This is probably reason number 1 of many.

All things being equal the benefits of bringing Malloy and Keith up for the final 3-4 weeks of the season far outweigh any further developing that they might do in that time period in AAA. But the 40-man roster issue overrides everything. 

Tigers allow 4.6 runs a game over 3 games. That is the league average for runs scored. Hopefully soon, like next year, when the pitching holds the opposition to league average in runs over 3 games the Tigers will win 2 of those 3 most of the time. 

23 minutes ago, Toddwert said:

ugh another booth guest to get in the way of the broadcast of the game... dont get me wrong Lance Parrish was my favorite 84 Tiger

Why is Monroe on the radio? 

52 minutes ago, Toddwert said:

I do like the improvement but i do worry about what the ceiling will be 

I'd like to think Harris will work to add pieces that will raise the ceiling over the next two years. 

19 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Every team has peaks and valleys.  The timing of these highs and lows could tell you something but it also could just be random variation throughout the season.  For three straight seasons, the Tigers have started out slow.  What appears to be improvement over the course of the season could be lack of readiness at the beginning of the season.  Or it could just be random.  

The record is bad. The run differential is ugly. But the vibe is much better, probably because there have not been many 2-8 stretches and for the most part the guys counted on for the future I've made progress. 

1 hour ago, Toddwert said:

thats like when people say if we just take away the slow start in April.. as if that wasnt pat of season

Those early games count in the standings but that the Tigers have played mostly .500 ball since then also tells me something. If they had started 8 games over .500 and played 15 games below .500 since then that would be also tell me something. Ones more positive than the other.  

24 minutes ago, AZTigersfan said:

I wonder if Hinch pinch hits for Greene? Normally this would be ridiculous but he’s like 2 for his last 25

 

in retrospect that wouldn’t have been a bad idea at all.

Greene, Tork, Carp 0-11. Ballgame. 

28 minutes ago, lordstanley said:

First time the Tigers have lost more than two in a row since the 9-gamer ended June 10. Unfortunately only had one winning streak of more than 2 games during that period. 

As go Greene and Torkelson as go the Tigers I guess. Combined something like 2-30 over these last three games. 

3 minutes ago, AZTigersfan said:

Brutal! 

Wild because he has 980ish OPS this month.

16 minutes ago, AZTigersfan said:

Tork 1 for his last 20

Greene 2 for his last 22

Ouch!

TV stat showed Tork 0-19 with RISP in August? Wow. 

3 hours ago, chasfh said:

I would assume Baez's hope is that he kills it the first four months of 2024 and we trade him to a contender, and I would also assume we'd be happy to oblige.

If Baez is killing it for the first 4 months of 2024 that would very likely mean the Tigers are close enough to the top of the division that he won't be traded. 

Keith 3-4 with HR. 888 OPS. 

6 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

The International League this year is ridiculous. You look at those Toledo numbers and assume they would be at the top of the IL . Instead they are middle of the pack. Juiced ball? Robo umps? Lousy pitching? 

15 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

I like Candelario, but he is not worth 7 more wins!

Edit: Based on WAR the Tigers are -1.3 at third base.  Candelario is +3.6.  So, 5 wins.  You are not that far off!

In hindsight what an incredibly ill-fated move. I was agnostic about dumping Candelario and you probably can't assume it would have played out exactly this way, but 5 more wins puts the Tigers just a game or two out of first place.