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5 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:
Statcast rates him as average, he's on a 27 game errorless streak (I know, scoring is horrible but it still measures the worst plays), only two of his errors have been on throws. People are too impatient. I used to complain that the franchise expected too many guys to become better fielders when when they were already a bit long in the tooth and it was going to be difficult but, Colt is going to be 23 next month. I want to see what he looks like as a fielder next season at this time. (actually I'd really like to see what he would look like back at 3rd if the arm were up to it),
Fangraphs rates Keith's defense has average to slightly above average. Maybe they use statcast.
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7 hours ago, AlaskanTigersFan said:
I dunno. If they got Kjersted, Mayo and Povich the lineup late next year/going into 26 could look like
1. - Clark CF
2. Kjersted LF
3. Greene - RF
4. Mayo - 3B
5. Jung - 2B
6 - Carpenter 1B
7. McGonigle SS/FA to hold over for Rainer
8. Dingler
9. DH (FA) (maybe Tork figures it out)This doesn't even include anyone we sign outside of our organization. In the offseason, offer Burnes and Flaherty to Resign.
Burnes
Jobe
Flaherty
Olson
Mize (?)Bullpen
That my friends is a playoff team. Ahh one can dream.....
Ok back to reality.....
Colt Keith is signed through 2032. I think they will find a spot for him.
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2 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said:
At this point I trust Skubal to put together a better AB than what Baez will give us
Baez's OPS+ is typical of what your average pitcher used to put up pre DH era. Some were worse, some were better. But playing Baez is like giving up your DH.
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1 minute ago, Tigermojo said:
Game of inches
Or maybe don't walk the No. 9 hitter on four straight pitches.
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4 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:
I don't know what their chances of signing Flaherty themselves are, maybe nil, but if they are going to contend in the next three years they are going to need more arms to add to Skubal, Reese, and Casey-Maybe-Mize than just Jackson Jobe and crossed fingers on Gipson-Long. To my view we are just a far from having a sustainable rotation as we are from having a sustainable starting 8 in the field so I don't see any particular advantage in a pitching trade other than in Flaherty's case if he's unsignable or if the Tigers med staff doesn't believe in Skubal's health future.
If they are serious about contending over the next few years they will need to sign a guy like Flaherty. So why not just sign the bird in the hand, assuming he is amenable. And maybe they are trying, I don’t know.
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5 hours ago, chasfh said:
Three years ago the White Sox looked to have a bright future. Now this. Go figure.
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19 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:
people haven't adjusted to how much hitting is down across the league.
For all the kvetching about the offense the Tigers are 15th in MLB in runs/game. They are 14th in runs allowed/game. The epitome of a .500 team. Considering they are one of MLB's youngest teams the future isn't as dismal as some around here think.
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55 minutes ago, AlaskanTigersFan said:
I'm just saying the Tigers are nowhere near a true playoff contender team..... Until we have 4-5 players consistently above .800, its all pretend. The offense isn't there, behind Skubal and Flaherty, the SP isn't there. We are still 2-3 years away from being serious contenders. Now's the time to see for that window.
Avila screwed us by not committing to a full rebuild sooner. This is called MLB purgatory.... Only way to get out of it, is to do a rebuild correctly. Move Flaherty AND Skubal now to quit this loop of endlessness.
The Yankees have two hitters above .800. Every other non-injured regular is under .700. And they lead MLB in runs scored. The Mariners are in second place. Their top regular has a 716 OPS. I'm not arguing that the Tigers are playoff contenders right now, but I don't think they are that far off.
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1 minute ago, MeanJim said:
Who's gonna pitch the 9th? Faedo? Maeda? Wentz? Miller?
What's wrong with having a setup man and a closer? A couple months ago, I thought it was going to be Chafin and Foley, but it's different every time.
Holton?
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24 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:
he's right at 300 PA and he's still holding his own against big league pitching. Needs to keep doing his fielding work though!
Too bad he couldn’t cut it as an infielder.
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5 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:
Yeah, he’s not very good. Where’s Dan?
Scales and Gania rhapsodizing about how strong the Tigers bullpen has been this year. Then Apple posts stat showing that Tigers pen leads MLB in blown saves.
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1 minute ago, kdog said:
Tough outcome...just could not get the insurance runs needed.
Lots of traffic on the bases. Just couldn't cash in enough of them. This is better than the 3 up, 3 down that plagued them in June. Bullpen continues to be hit or miss as well.
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7 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:
MALLOY!
Malloy has 5 HRs in 93 PAs. That's a 30 HR pace. Can he play 1B? I kid.
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1 minute ago, SeattleMike said:
The Twins signed him to a minor league deal. That shows you what the league thought of him. The Twins have been living right lately. The Correa free agent deal (with SF?) falling through and WC suddenly turning into an All-Star? Fans don't appreciate the luck factor enough.
In fairness they have also had a ton of injuries.
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3 hours ago, kdog said:
Willi's projected arbitration salary was $1.7 million for 2023. It's also possible that Harris was given the indication from Hinch and staff that Willi was never going to get it.
Additionally, the Tigers hitting staff might not have unlocked what the Twins did. Harris saw the projected salary for tendering Willi and decided to go with someone else. This is a small move IMO and I'm not going to kill Harris for it.
The Twins signed him to a minor league deal. That shows you what the league thought of him. The Twins have been living right lately. The Correa free agent deal (with SF?) falling through and WC suddenly turning into an All-Star? Fans don't appreciate the luck factor enough.
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4 hours ago, SoCalTiger said:
Flattery was beelining for a 5 year deal over 100 million which I think the Tigers were not offering but now with his back "situation" that might not be so certain which opens the door for a less expensive extension but also hurts his trade value. I have no clue what Harris is thinking. I think he gets traded and maybe resigned in the off season which is an option for Kelly as well but it seems historically that rarely ever happens.
I believe the Tigers traded Ben Oglive to the Brewers for Jim Slaton. Then Slaton signed back with Milwaukee after the season. So the Tigers essentially gifted Milwaukee an All Star.
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1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said:
but check the 1st column. Yankees have loaded the bases more than twice as many times as the Tigers. You can live with more misses when you have that kind of traffic.
Exactly. The real take away is that the Tigers have had fewer of these opportunities than every other MLB team than the Reds, who they are tied with.
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52 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:
If Parker is right, he does change the game with his speed and defense. Hope we get this version.
He did post 99 OPS+ in his first stint with the Tigers. If he could bounce around the 100 OPS+ mark over the next few years he will be a very valuable player for the Tigers.
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5 hours ago, buddha said:
i'm sure all of you who hold disdain for hinch over the astros cheating have the same disdain for del baker, and hank greenberg, and rudy york for cheating and stealing signs in the 1940 world series. having a guy in center field tell them what pitches were coming.
https://www.vintagedetroit.com/sign-stealing-helped-tigers-win-1940-pennant/
right?
And yet they still lost the WS.
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22 minutes ago, kdog said:
7 and 9 runs in two of the last 3 games. And the clunker was 3 runs instead of a shutout or 1 run. Progress.
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2 hours ago, 1776 said:
Two years ago our ‘Big Three’ were going to be Mize, Manning, and Skubal. Manning is indeed a distant memory. Mize hasn’t lived up to the hype that preceded him for one reason or another. Skubal is a stud. I guess that’s considered a successful yield with today’s starters.
One guy an ace, another a 4/5 type starter. That is pretty good yield, as you suggest.
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1 hour ago, Tigermojo said:
Sounds like the White Sox are putting Crochet on the market. That would be direct competition for a Skubal package.
True. But Crochet doesn’t have a long track record of starting. This will definitely knock Flaherty down a notch or two.
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6 minutes ago, kdog said:
Looks like Meadows will be back in the Minnesota series...for whatever it's worth.
For all of his faults he did have a .01 bWar for his month of service. Much better than Torkelson for instance.
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5 hours ago, RandyMarsh said:
Ten of those have come in the last 20 games alone. Just pathetic!
About the number of games Carpenter has missed.
2024 Trade Deadline Rumors and Discussion
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Kelly, traded to a team with a worse record than the Tigers. When is the last time the Tigers made a deadline deal that sent one of their players to a team with a worse record?