Tiger337

I wouldn't want to have to choose between a Nazi and an an authoritarian enabler.  Tough choice for the Mainers.  

1 minute ago, chasfh said:

OK, I’m starting to sense a pattern here I think can be summed up by this decision tree.

 

projection.  😉

I'M DONE WITH THIS TEAM!!!!

FIRE HENCH!
FIRE HARRISS!!!
SELL THE TEAM ILLITCH!!

I saw yesterday that Riley Greene hits better batting 5th than 4th.  So, today he's batting 4th.  Stupid Hinch.  

14 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

And lets not forget that a blown save is a blown save whether it's one run or 3 that's given up. If Tigers relievers came into more games with a 3 run lead than a one run lead, or if the team scored  more late runs,  some of those saves wouldn't have been blown - or long story short, the BP has been bad but poor offense also contributes to it looking even worse.   

Yes, the offense is bad and is setting up the bullpen for losses, but it's still an unusual proportion of blown saves .  The bullpen needs to shoulder some of the blame. 

2 hours ago, chasfh said:

However bad it is for us watching the Tigers lose in horrific fashion on TV night after night, it is twice as soul-crushing seeing it happen in person.

For me, It's not seeing it happen in person, that is worse.  It's being surrounded by opposing fans, the vast majority of which care a lot less about baseball than me and watching them go insane when it happens.  

1 hour ago, monkeytargets39 said:

Even if we hadn’t had all of these walkoff homerun losses…..we’d still be like 10 games under .500

They have 7 walk-off losses.  If they won all those games, they would be at .500.   

More realistically, they have 15 blow saves.  Last year, they converted save situations at a 65% rate which is close to league average.  If they had the same rate this year, they would have 9 blown saves.  So, they possibly could be 2 games below .500.   

35 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said:

Please do not show this to Scott Harris or he will be broadcasting it as a reason for still not making changes. 

I think it suggests they have had poor situational hitting and pitching...which most of us have noticed.  I don't expect any  changes for now.  They are kind of stuck until they get healthy.  

On 5/28/2026 at 3:43 PM, gehringer_2 said:

Absolutely. If the dems weren't also so unpopular as party the risk wouldn't be so clear - but this election could be anything from a record turnout to everybody on both sides is jaded and stays home - who the heII knows?

What are the Democrats running on other than being anti-Trump?  I mean that's good enough for me, but it's not going to win any elections.  

According to baseruns (the # of runs a team should have scored/allowed based on H, BB, HR, etc), the Tigers should have scored 4.05 runs per game and allowed 4.09. That would be a 28-29 record. Bad sequencing on both sides of the ball.

https://www.fangraphs.com/standings/pythagorean-baseruns

1 minute ago, gehringer_2 said:

or it's just lack of power pitching, which still has a lot of utility in a BP.

Not enough difference in velocity between pitchers perhaps?

1 minute ago, Hongbit said:

How in the world did this bullpen get so insanely bad so quickly.   

Edman has a theory that teams have picked up on some of the bullpen "magic" they have use in the last couple of years.  He may have a point.    

13 minutes ago, tiger2022 said:

I don't know why there are Harris slappies to be honest.  Outside of signing Valdez and drafting McGonigle, he has done absolutely nothing to improve the roster since he was hired.

I think he is liked because Avila was bad and because Harris is their first real analytical GM.  I definitely like that they have moved in that direction.  However, I am not sure whether he is a cooker cutter analytic GM or whether he will prove to be one of the good ones.   

On 5/21/2026 at 12:22 PM, CMRivdogs said:

I've caught them a number of times misstating what should be well known historical facts as welkl as geographical locations.

 

 

And they often have a difficult time admitting their mistake.  Just like a real person.  

6 hours ago, oblong said:

I remember being sad that I missed 1976 because I was just under 3 years old.  I had 250 marked as something that would be awesome.  Now it's just meh.  That bastard will make it all about himself and show no dignity or grace.

 

 

I remember 1976 being a really big deal.  That is all anybody talked about for a couple of years and I was excited about it.  After that, I remember thinking, I am going to 63 when the next big number comes and that would be really old!  I don't feel THAT old, but I couldn't care less about 250 for the reason you said.    

The injured players are not stars, but the guys replacing them are so bad that it has the same effect as losing stars.  The injuries have mad a big difference.  

This year, they have added a platoon DH silver slugger.  

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

Injuries is what happened, and I think it might be more than just the lost WAR of front-line starters going onto the list. I also believe there could be something to idea of a very human response to hopelessness manifesting in lackadaisical play leading to an accelerating downward spiral.

IOW, it looks like they’ve just stopped trying because they can’t win.

That's not an excuse though, especially since they excelled in the same circumstances two years ago.    

1 minute ago, chasfh said:

I don’t think a guy hard-wired for competitiveness would lie to make himself look like he’s working less hard, so I would take Mickey’s word on this.

yeah, It's not like he said he pitched to the score.  

10 hours ago, DTroppens said:

The JV thing was never a huge thing to me. I figured why not try. If it hits, that's great. If what is happening now, happens, that's okay as well. It was a pot luck thing that was only for the season. Really, it was worth the shot to see if it worked. Right now, it hasn't. Maybe in August he ends up a pretty solid arm in the rotation. But even if not, giving it a whirl was never a horrible option in my book.

If they had signed Verlander before they signed Valdez, I would have called it a lazy move.  Since he was signed right after Valdez, I was OK with it.  

1 minute ago, NorthWoods said:

I really don't think you can attribute all of it or even a majority to weaker hitters.    

I attribute it to different times.  If they were pitching today throwing max velocity and max spin on every pitch, they would not be pitching 300+ innings.  Ryan was a freak and would be today so he'd still be leading league in innings every year, but nowhere near the same volume.  

25 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Hinch would take him out after 6 innings to bring in a AAA pitcher...lmao

He would have left him in to pitch complete games the way everybody else did in that period.  If you look around the league, you see that a lot of managers manage the way Hinch does now.  The Tigers are not the only team platooning and pulling pitchers early.  

36 minutes ago, NorthWoods said:

Think what an outlier Nolan Ryan would be today?  What would a pitcher throwing 100+ for 332 innings with 367 K. 26 complete games and a 2.89ERA be worth? That was the 1974 season.

Lolich threw 376 innings in 1971!

1 hour ago, IdahoBert said:

I’m beginning to think that we may not have six players and our bat boy going to the All-Star game this year. 

Right now, I'd say two. 

20 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

I think Hinch is one of the best managers in baseball and I would not argue if you said he was the best, and I don't think firing him changes the course of this lost season, and I do not think they find a better manager if they let him go

but

the results absolutely suck, and more importantly, they are not putting up much of a fight, and they not playing particularly well in any phase of the game - that's on Hinch

I don't know what happened, but the team seems lost

It's really hard to evaluate managers but I believe he is a good one.