Tiger337

20 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

I'd prefer a grading system which broke out coach decisions from player decisions. I get its all put together as a matter of team performance, but being sent into sure outs is a fundamentally different problem for a team to solve than than having runners who don't run the bases well, so as a diagnostic metric I would prefer that cases be spilt.

So, it would be like an official scorer making decisions on fielding errors.  It's a good idea, but I can also see the same kind of judgement call problems you get with errors.  Teams make a lot of errors in part because they are able to get close enough to making plays because of good range.  So, is it a good thing or a bad thing?   With baserunning, the Tigers have a generally aggressive philosophy where they get more wins on the bases than other teams, but also more losses.  So, is it a good thing or bad thing that they get thrown out more than other teams? 

I know there are times where obvious "mistakes" are made by coaches, but sometimes a coach can take a big risk and the player ends up being safe.  How does the scorer decide?  I can see where they might give coaches all the blame and players all the credit.  I suppose you could have a statcast type thing where cameras inform how much of a risk/reward there is on every play and reward the coach/player according.  But that is hard too because sometimes players make decisions on their own. 

1 minute ago, Sports_Freak said:

Base running shouldn't be ranked by stolen bases. I'm not sure what all is included with a general statement like a team is ranked 19th in base running.

It's not ranked by stolen bases.  The statistic includes all base running plays such as taking the extra base and being thrown out trying to do so as well as stolen bases.  They are good at taking the extra base on hits, but they get thrown out a lot too.  The baserunning sample is probably too small to be meaningful now.  

8 hours ago, IdahoBert said:

Those are pretty dismal metrics to contemplate. 

Except for the pitching!

According to FanGraphs, the Tigers are 

5th in pitching

15th in hittimg

21st in base running

28th in fielding

That feels about right.  

Their fielding was better last year and their base running was a lot better.  That's where they need to improve.  

There is no ice.  It has been drizzling most of the day, nothing heavy at all and the ground is barely damp.  If it doesn't get heavy, they can play the game.  

Take McGonigle out of the line-up and it looks like crap.  

14 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

I too have been wondering about McGonigle getting a day off. He seems like a pop up toy with a good spring always ready to leap into action. But he needs a little rest too, like everybody. 

2 minutes ago, SeattleMike said:

I agree that he probably won't age well, and I wouldn't sign him to an extension. But to think his production will be easily replaced is wishful thinking. 

I agree.  While I thik they wouldn't get a lot for him in a trade,  I do not think he would be easily replaced.  

19 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

He isnt a typical rookie. Its fine, we just dont agree that playing in front of 6000 people in Toledo is the same as playing in front of 35,000 people at Fenway Park. Opinions are like noses, everyone has one. 😆

I remember your opinion of McGonigle was not very good in Spring training.  You didn't think he was ready.  

13 minutes ago, SeattleMike said:

I don't know that Greene is a star. But his bat is important and will not be that easy to replace. 119 wRC+ as a 22-year old, 134 as a 23-year old, and 145 through 100 games last year. Everyone remembers the last 60 games when he slumped, but the 260 games before that he definitely performed at an All-Star level. I'm surprised at how quickly this board has turned against. He wouldn't be the first guy to suffer through a 2-3 month slump but then right the ship in a big way. Way too early to give up the on the guy. 

yes, he is a good hitter when he gets going, but he has peaked as a fielder, so he's going to have to hit a lot to retain his value.  He is stiff and injury prone and seems like someone who will not age well which is one of the main reasons I think he wouldn't bring much back in a trade.  

34 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

And he wouldn't be nervous in his ML debut. Every game is the same, it's all just a baseball game.

McGonigle wasn't.  

The park can affect pitching and hitting and even left field defense (because of the wall).  It is not relevant to third base defense though.  

9 hours ago, Hongbit said:

Jose Soriano has entered the conversation with Skenes and Skubal.

Dazzles again tonight.   This has got to be the best 5 game stretch for a pitcher in maybe ever.

32.2 IP

11 H

1 ER

13 BB

39 K

0.22 ERA

A solo HR from Drake Baldwin is the only run he’s given up in 5 starts.  

 

He has been awesome, but the best five game stretch ever would have to have more than 32.2 IP.  

1 hour ago, Sports_Freak said:

Next major deal? Harris doesn't make major deals.

True, but he didn't sign major free agents either...until he got Valdez. 

The bigger problem is that they aren't going to get anything major for Greene.  He's got some value to a team, but he's not a star and he'll be getting more expensive.  

Why is everybody talking about me? You ask me how I am doing and then you tell me I am not ready.  What's going on?

Fake win for the Red Sox.  I stiil can not get myself to care much about the extra inning games.  I mean I'd rather see them win than lose, but as soon as it became impossible for the Tigers to win in regulation, I Iost interest in following the game.  

1 hour ago, LaceyLou said:

I agree about the combination of public and private sources of aid being the best way to help with social services and aid.  Sadly over the years the feeling that the poor don't deserve any kind of help has seemed to become more and more common.

But the wealthy can get as much as they want.  

I've been a runner in the Boston area for 50 years and even I haven't run the Boston Marathon.  The logistics of getting there and getting out does not sound fun. Most people I know have run it which makes it seem like not a big deal to me.   I prefer the low key races. 

15 minutes ago, LaceyLou said:

The people I grew up with in NH were mostly traditional conservatives. When they said they wanted government out, they meant it-and would take it upon themselves to make sure those who needed help got it from other community members. 

And religion was a private, personal subject that you only discussed in church. 

So we didn't agree on how to accomplish some things, but we often wanted the same things.

 

I can respect that kind of thinking, although I don't think it can work in highly populated areas.  What I can't respect is the support for fascism and theocracy that I am seeing all over the place.    

14 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

On the facebook feed of a good friend, I saw several of her friends saying God supports the war and that God chose Trump to save America.  Just two degrees of separation away from these lunatics.  That is creepy. 

I mean they live in New Hampshire, but still...

On the other hand, a lot of religious posters in that thread are disgusted with him.  That picture seems to have struck a nerve.

On 1/19/2026 at 3:36 PM, chasfh said:

I've long liked her. They need characters like her in that party.

I like her too and I dislike most politicians.  

On 4/12/2026 at 11:07 PM, Motown Bombers said:

 

He is a doctor.  The patient has Covid.  That is why he's shining a light up his nose.  

4 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

Holy moly I missed all of this because I spent the last 30 minutes trying to get mlb.com to admit that I existed. They suddenly decided that my phone number was different than it’s been for 20 years that my password was different. I spent 20 minutes or so online with a really great customer service guy by the way and finally got it all resolved and I just assumed we’ve lost this game.

That sounds like what usually happens to me.  

Wow, what a finish!  I did not see that coming.  Thought for sure Greene would strike out.  

On the facebook feed of a good friend, I saw several of her friends saying God supports the war and that God chose Trump to save America.  Just two degrees of separation away from these lunatics.  That is creepy. 

I mean they live in New Hampshire, but still...