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18 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

I think The Big Club would much more prefer it if those who disapproved of Donald Trump would just shut up about it.

What they don't want is for everybody to start pointing fingers at them instead.  

6 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

I'm sorry, but treating the current breakdown in American political culture and the violent undertones of it as being completely symmetrical is a bunch of hooey. There is one party that is led by a leader that sicced a mob on the capitol, there is one party that is led by a leader that blanket pardoned all of the people involved, has legitimized groups like the Proud Boys, the Oath Keepers, etc. 

I understand the tendency to want to see things from both sides and all.... but on this particular subject, it's wildly asymmetrical and oughtta be treated as such. And the fact that we treat "both sides" as if they are "the same" on this only emboldens more bad behavior.

LOL, studies have shown that the right is more violent, but you can't deny that us versus them among lower classes is exactly what The Big Club wants.  

The right hates the left and thinks it is dangerous.  The left hates the right and thinks it is dangerous.  This is a perfect scenario for The Big Club and the politicians which support it.  

I was just reading where the average MLB player has 20/12 to 20/13 vision.  80% have better than 20/15 vision.  

6 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said:

I’m still aboard the “trade Riley before the end of his contract because he seems like a player that’s going to age very poorly” boat

Torkelson I have no issue with.  If he’s not hitting, he will get less ABs.  His defense is steady, and he isnt likely going to force us into either a long term deal or a must-trade scenario in the future.

It seems like outfielders don't bring back a lot in trades unless they are superstars, so I suspect they'll hold onto Greene and Carpenter into 2028.  Same with Torkelson.  All three can help them win over the next couple of years.  I dom't expect any of them to last beyond that.  Hopefully, they will have enough young players in place at the end of 2028 so that they have a strong core.   

Are we still hating Riley Greene and Spencer Torkelson?  I just want to know.  

8 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Or they could just trade Hinch. 

HINCH AND FLARRITY FOR ABREU AND CROCHETT

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

I can accept the idea that the Reds were so bad during that era that they had to somehow identify the tallest midget to honor, but if it was the steroids era’s fault that they had no choice but to honor a four-plus ERA, at least his ERA+ would be closer to 115 or 120 than 103.

His stretch between 2005-2007 was pretty good:

ERA+ 112 124 124

WAR 4.5 5.3 6.0

1 hour ago, mtutiger said:

I don't buy the conspiracies surrounding this and continue to believe this administration is too incompetent to actually execute anything elaborate that is often attributed to them in times like these.

Having said that, hard not to find a bit of dark amusement that all these people who have worked diligently to lower trust throughout greater society and exploited it gleefully while campaigning for power now find themselves distrusted by many people now that they themselves have power.

They both (this one and the one in Butler) looked fake, and if any administration was going to do two fake assassination attempts, it would be this one, but I don't think they were staged.  A staged assassination attempt requires too many people to be on board and I think somebody would leak it. Someone got killed in the first one and don't think they would be able to get everyone on board with murder.  Nobody got killed in this one (not yet), but I still don't believe everyone would be on board.  

5 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Wait, why is the idea of Hinch leaving the Tigers and going to Boston showing up in multiple threads all of a sudden? I do a search on the idea and there is zero coming up about it. Where is this chatter originating?

It all comes from the same person

6 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Suffice to say, this appears like a significant breakdown in security.

Need to fire some women and Blacks.  

2 minutes ago, chasfh said:

He’s going to come back and blame the media for this, isn’t he? The leftist media that hates him and wants him dead, or some such nonsense?

He's not coming back.  He is pretending to want to come back, but is letting law enforcement make the decision.  

6 hours ago, Shades of Deivi Cruz said:

That’s not a real photo

The real video was just as bad though.  

4 minutes ago, SeattleMike said:

He's not under contract for next year, is he?

no,  last year was the year he got 25 million.  This is the year he is sucking up another 20 million...so far.  

Did Chas miss a joke that flew right over his head?  

You can't predict bullpens.  That's why you still need to build around starters which is what the Tigers have mostly done.  The bullpen needs to do better than this though.  

On 2/4/2026 at 4:21 PM, gehringer_2 said:

Trump isn't stupid, but he is ignorant. We tend to assume the later always implies the former, but not with Trump.

Trump is ignorant because not because he is stupid but because he has a closed mind. Snapped shut somewhere around 1972 and he's still there.

He has no intellect at all.  He is smart enough to know how to bully and manipulate people which I think isn't all that difficult when you've got money.  He is also dumb enough to allow smarter people to manipulate him.  

I was watching the game on youtube TV.  The Tigers were leading 4-0.  I went to get a quick snack and Baez was at the plate when I came back.  This was weird because that would have been three batters batting in like one minute. Baez then crushed a home run to center field and I am thinking it was a flashback to earlier in the inning.  But it wasn't.  The game had gone back in time to Baez's previous at bat.  YouTube TV is weird.  Either that or that was quite a snack.  

20 minutes ago, guy incognito said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/us-is-adding-firing-squads-electrocution-and-gassing-to-federal-execution-methods/ar-AA21EFN2

What do they intend to accomplish here?  

4 hours ago, chasfh said:

Ending a Yordan Alvarez segment, Brian Kenny/MLB Now did a twitter poll on their show yesterday asking viewers who they thought the most underrated players in baseball today are, and the first two responses were Dingler. 

By definition, he is now no longer underrated!

4 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

I would assume that rule assumes  the catcher is out of play when the ball gets stuck in his apparatus? 

There had to be rule of course, but that doesn't mean I have to think it's a good one. It's a much simpler rule book if the batter is just out if the ball hasn't touched the ground. The problem with that is you know it would get abused and pretty soon guys would show up in the field with big bags of fabric around their arms or the like.

But the ball getting trapped in a uniform has been ruled to be a deadball. If that happened in foul territory, it still would not be an out according to the rule.  

In the catcher example, if the ball did not get lodged in the mask and instead the catcher just didn't catch the ball on a third strike, the batter would be allowed to run to first.  This sounds to me analagous to what happened in Gilbert's case.  

7 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

Really it all comes down to not making outs. 

Bill James used to preach that. Every team gets the same number of outs every game and more you limit them the more opportunities you will have to produce runs.   

According to rule 5.09(a):

"A catch is the act of a fielder in getting secure possession in his hand or glove of a ball in flight and firmly holding it in his possession; providing he does not use his cap, protector, pocket or any part of his uniform in getting possesion."

It doesn't say he gets a single, but it is not an out.

A related rule:

"When a pitched ball becomes stuck in a catcher’s mask or gear, it is an immediate dead ball. According to MLB Rule 5.06(c)(7), runners are awarded one base, and the batter is awarded first base if it was ball four or strike three. It is not considered a catch if the ball lodges in the mask on a foul tip."

The catcher is not the pitcher, but seems to be very similar to what happened with Gilbert.  

1 hour ago, Shelton said:

I actually think it was the pitching!

 

Pitching and pitcher management, although the pitching chaos thng might have been largely luck.  It hasn't been easy to repeat.  

59 minutes ago, Shelton said:

I think one factor that gets lost in the lineup order discourse is that it really just doesn’t matter what position you bat in (for the most part). The larger factor is more who is actually in the lineup. After that, batting 3rd or 7th makes very little difference. 
 

Of course, you have to give guys enough PAs to find out how good they are so that you can make that decision. Paradoxical. I think the faster you can determine who is good and who is bad,  and then actually acting on that as opposed to falling victim to inertial roster construction, will have a big effect on your success. 

That is true.  The difference between the best and worst line-up for the same group of hitters is not substantial.