Tiger337

1 hour ago, Sports_Freak said:

No way Trump wrote that.

I think most of the stuff coming out of his account was written by somebody else.  

I guess I was wrong about Wenceel Perez.  He did help the Tigers pitch better.  

7 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

She got the second most votes ever for a Dem. 

That's a pretty silly stat considering that she lost.   The recent high vote totals don't indicate popularity.  A lot of people have voted in the last two elections because of mail-in voting.  

3 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

I don't know if unserious is the best description for Newsome - he's taken on major problems in CA has been willing to take his share or flack over them. But I agree it is easy to get a sense of something vaguely off about him. Not sure what I would call it. It's not necessarily 'Slick' like Clinton but something.

I just think the imitation up Trump thing is kind of lame.  That isn't going to work.  Clinton actually was slick whereas I think Newsome tries too hard.   

12 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

Javy seemed to hit a lot better when he was playing centerfield. Now perhaps I’m just making all this up, but I think centerfield is probably a less stressful position and he seemed to be better with the bat with less stress to deal with.

He's hitting pretty well right now.  I just looked him up and was surprised by his numbers.   

The betting markets are heavily favoring Newsome.  I hope not.  He seems very unserious.  They need somebody who will run on something other than anti-Trump.  That's the mistake Harris made.    

5 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Clark probably doesn't get called until they are ready to play him full time and I'd guess Wenceel is not going to play CF full-time.

I think Hinch will do lot of rotating - Perez, Vierling, Baez.  Baez's numbers are surprisingly good this year.  He might be primed for another good half season like last year.   Or not. You never know what you'll get from him.  

1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said:

so how good is Max Clarks glove supposed to be?

Very good and he might be able to hit as well as Meadows even he has rookie struggles.  I have no idea if they think he's ready.  I know he's off to a hot start, but he seemed to be struggling this Spring.  

34 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Lol...don't be mad.

I'll still be your friend!

Meadows gets a lot of criticism, but they'll miss his defense.  The Meadows brothers sure do have a lot of bad luck.  

38 minutes ago, oblong said:

it's obviously Fernando Vina

My friend went to Rodriguez's pizza place in PR a few weeks ago and was mad that there was nothing about the Tiger.  The Rangers and Marlins were represented.

 

That does not surprise.  He performed well for the first three years, but I never got the impression that he really liked playing for the Tigers.  He seemed to be disrespectful of Trammell which definitely turned me off.  I don't like to say this about players, but he appeared to quit on the team at times.

Valdez was 8th in the MLB in FanGraphs WAR and 10th in xFIP from 23-25.  He was a very significant signing by the Tigers

3 minutes ago, tiger2022 said:

Rodriguez was the best FA signing ever by the Tigers.

Not as good as Phillips.  

1 minute ago, Sports_Freak said:

I didn't mean in the first couple of weeks in 2026. Use 2025 stats until the sample size is a bit bigger this year. We have some quality arms, both SP and in the BP. Our top 3 SP should be really good this summer, Valdez, Skubal and Mize. Jack and whomever is our #5 SP may be a weakness but just score 10 runs in those games...😅😅

Yes, I don't like small sample sizes.  The pitching should get better.    I just see everyone blaming the offense and I think the slow start from the pitching staff and sloppy defense is the bigger problem.  I think the hitting will a little better in terms of power but they aren't going to win the division with offense.  It is going to have to be pitching.  

21 minutes ago, Screwball said:

I was partially kidding. I don't have much faith in any of the useless ****s who run anything. I don't believe 10 percent of what I read from the MSM. Less than that from any political dip**** that holds office. They are all a bunch of lying sacks of **** who only care about themselves, or are getting blackmailed into destroying the entire world for a bunch of sick ****s who want to continue to rape and pillage it. Great theater for those with their head up their ass playing the blame game, while the media covers up for them.

The Big Club is kind of like the banksters, but worse. I think the banksters have a little more credibility than the scum in the Big Club. Not much, but a little. Not a good bunch to count on, but they might be all we have. They have the goods on the Big Club - they banked them, and laundered their money. They know and have the records. 

A global depression benefits nobody. The banksters, even if behind the scenes, may be able to stop or slow down the madness. The criminal CEO of JPM just recently had some things to say.

CEO of nation's largest bank says Iran war raises risk of 'bad economic outcomes'

 

I always assumed the bankers were part of the Big Club!  I don't really know though.  

13 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

When Perez came back from injury last year (or 2024?), he seemed to give our offense a boost. Maybe just a coincidence but, whatever, it's a necessary change with the injury to Meadows. Watch us score 10 runs tonight...lol

As for our pitching staff? Its still near top of the league. Boston's staff was supposed to be better and they're also struggling out of the gate. I still like our staff, the SP and the BP. We'll get it together, sooner rather than later...

What statistic are you using to say that the Tigers pitching staff is near the top of the league?  They are right around 20th on the major pitching metrics.  Yes, they should be better, but they are not so far.  They NEED to be near the top of the league and they are instead closer to the bottom.  

Perez has never boosted an offense by himself.  He's a fourth outfielder.  

23 minutes ago, chasfh said:

OK, then what are we talking about? The initial implication was that the left has started resorting to a campaign of disinformation, something everyone agrees the right routinely does. 

Political parties are always on campaigns of disinformatilon.  That is what they do!  The right is taking it to a whole other scary level.  The problem is when the left does it now (like all the Catholic persecution stuff) the right is going to point to them and use it to justify all the lies of the right.  

1 minute ago, oblong said:

And Fielder got the credit for all the runs being scored... he and Tettleton for his HR's, but it was the on base skills that did that.  It was Fryman and Phillips and Tettleton, not for his HR's but his walks.

 

Right, Fielder was a good home run hitter, but he got more credit than he should have for all his RBI.  Whitaker and Phillips were on base all the time.  

5 minutes ago, chasfh said:

He kind of was "just a utility guy" for the A's. One excellent season, another really good, several pretty decent seasons by WAR, but mostly the the glove and less by the bat. Once he got to Detroit he turned that around to become a really good bat with a sturdy glove.

Fun fact: Tony Phillips had, by a long shot, the highest WAR of any player who played his entire career in the All-Star era and never played in the game itself. Kirk Gibson was second, and Reference has their career WARs as being more than 12 apart!

The Phillips/Tettleton/Fielder era was when I was really starting to get into sabermetrics and I saw how underrated Phillips and Tettleton were compared to Fielder.  Nobody cared about Phillps's on base skills or defensive versatilty.  He should have been playing today. 

9 minutes ago, NorthWoods said:

I'll admit that Phillips never occured to me.   I'd have bet on Cecil.

 

Phillips was overshadowed by Fielder, but Phillips was a better player.  After Fielder's first year with the Tigers, Bill James said he was overrated - just a big fat guy that hit homers and struck out a lot and he'd never repeat his 1990 season.  That made me angry at the time, but it turned out to be right. Tettleton was better too (although not a free agent)  

12 hours ago, Screwball said:

It's kind of funny. Given what is going on in the world today, and so many that are freaked the **** out, which I understand; I have faith in the most swine pieces of **** on the planet - our bankster pigmen of Wall Street. They are still the smartest guys in the room and control the entire financial system.

You don't have to like them. They are like AJ Pierzynski. You hate the prick but in this case you are glad he's on your side. If we go to war with the world, militarily or financially, (maybe we are doing that already?) I'm betting on our very own wizards of Wall Street.

The pigmen also have to live here (most of them) and don't want to get strung up. I'm hoping they are that smart.

 

I honestly don't know how it all works, but it's been pretty clear to me for a long time that the wealthiest people on the planet control everything.  All the money goes to them eventually and they control with their wealth.   I know they don't give a **** about the rest of us, but I also figure that their lives will be a lot less satisfying and safe if the world goes to hell.  They will do what they can to make sure that doesn't happen.  That's not a nice thing to be banking on (pun intended) but it helps keep me sane.  

12 minutes ago, oblong said:

I'll never forget the winter meetings when the Tiger signed Phillips.  It was right when ESPN got MLB and they covered it a lot more.  They were talking to Peter Gammons and he said the Tigers just signed him and to watch out for that, he's going to be a good player for them.  He was very high on it.  At that time I thought of Phillips as just a utility guy on the A's. Nothing special.

 

I was at school living in a dorm with no tv and very poor radio reception.  I was talking to my father on the phone and he told me what Gammons had said about Phillips.  They also signed Moseby that same week.  I knew they would both starting for the Tigers, but I had no idea how good Phillips would be.

They also signed Fielder later in the off-season.  The next year they traded for Tettleton.  That was an amazing group of acquisitions in a short time.  Too bad they had no pitching.  

The Tigers offense is not great, but they are a lot closer to performing at their expectation as a group than their pitching.  Their pitching was supposed to be a top five staff in baseball and it's been crap, yet all I see is people complaning about the bats.  Wenceel Perez is not going to fix their staff.  

22 minutes ago, NorthWoods said:

ESPN Article and ranking.

But - before you read it the Tigers score 1 in the top 25 - name that player.

They also have the 5th worst deal of all time - name that player?

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/48370280/mlb-2026-free-agency-ranking-best-worst-free-agent-signings-ever-50th-anniversary

Phillips and Zimmermann.  

8 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said:

Baseball fights don’t excite me like they used to.  Nothing really makes me laugh as hard as the Kyle Farnsworth perfect technique tackle or the classic Rod Allen video.

You growed up.