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2 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

not sure if 2022 was talking about McG or Ranier but either way I agree I never remember Collins being treated as that much of a deal. IIRC Iorg did get a fair amount of hype but it was pretty short lived because he never lived up to any of it. they kept pushing him up the system but he never really had a year that merited a promotion anywhere.

yeah, I now see he was talking abour Rainier.  Iorg got some hype from some local writers but was never that highly regarded in serious projections.  Most of the hype was about his defense.  

1 hour ago, tiger2022 said:

He's 20 years old so projecting him to be amazing in the future is really tough. Not saying he won't be but lots of 20 year old top prospects (he'll be 21 in July) in A ball never make it to the majors.  

Over the years the Tigers have had so many can't miss prospects like Tyler Collins, Cale Iorg and guys like that.

 

 

Tyler Collins and Cale Iorg are you comps for McGonigle? You're just messing with us now.  

2 hours ago, Tenacious D said:

53 AB’s?  Man, that’s cold

He also has an OBP of .400 and an OPS+ of 128.  Lots of red on statcast too.  He's not what he used to be, but it's not terrible.  When I read that post, I assumed he had a serious injury.  

1 minute ago, NorthWoods said:

I don't have an actual list I just know that one would be on it.   I have fond memories from nearly every era.

The 1967 heartbreaker solidified me as a fan for life.

1968 was special for an 8 year old kid, I loved every one of those guys and still do.

1972 the last hurrah of the 68 boys.

1981 oh so close with the kids

1984 the magical season

1987 the beartrap....then heartbreak.

2006 the drought is broken

2011-2014 trying to get Mr. I his WS win

2024 shocking the world

Lots of history there to pick from, would be fun to point out personal favorites and see if there's a consensus?   

1976 needs to be in there too.  

9 hours ago, mtutiger said:

Offensive on so many levels... so many levels

He managed to mock and insult Christians on both Easter and Orthodox Easter.  

18 minutes ago, NorthWoods said:

Name checks out.

Late career Tanana was similar to Kenny.  Age and guile killing them.

 

Tanana's career was fascinating.  He was a young fireballer early in his career, lost it and then re-made himself into a crafty lefty.  He wasn't the only one to do that, but I don't think too many pitchers had quite the contrast in his career that he did.  It would be like Skubal losing it and then becoming Kenny Rogers.  

1 minute ago, Screwball said:

You can never have enough pitching. Ever. That is all.

That's the truest statement you can make about baseball.  

37 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

I was just wondering how much they moved up in a weekend. Small sample sizes change very quickly. Their pitching was only 20th best? An early season good weekend prolly makes them better.

 

12th in hitter WAR.  9th in pitcher WAR.  

4 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

Was the Pujols move Smith's or was that Dombrowski? I seem to remember the Tigers wanted Felipe Alou to be manager, but he didn't want the job. He became Louis Pujols bench coach.  

Yes, I was wrong. It was not Smith.  Smith was fired at around the same time.  I think Pujols may have been an interim move until Dombrowski had more time to make a decision.  

The Hungary election result is huge.  Everything the conservatives have been doing in the US was modeled after Hungary.  It gives me hope that this right-wing authoritarian movement in the US can be not only defeated but crushed.  

5 hours ago, CMRivdogs said:

RIP Scrap Iron

 

I though Garner was a decent manager who didn't have much talent to work with, probably the best manager of that entire sorry Tigers era between Anderson and Leyland.  It was a real sharp move by Smith replacing him with Pujols.  

The other thing I remember about him was that he name was misspelled almost as much as Raburn.  

RIP Phil Gardner

32 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Is the Tiger pitching moving up in their rankings now after only giving up 3 runs this weekend? I still say Detroit has a top 5 pitching staff (potential).

I've said that all along.  I wasn't saying they were bad.  I was saying that they were not doing well to start the season and that was the biggest reason they were losing. 

Or maybe the swept because they added Perez.  Not sure.  

13 hours ago, monkeytargets39 said:

How’d he score a run if he didn’t get on base?

Have you not leaned anything from Adduci?

On 4/11/2026 at 8:57 AM, Motown Bombers said:

 

Just like Obama!  

46 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

This trade deadline could be fascinating.  If we are a sub .500 team, I could see many players on the chopping block, including Skubal, Greene, Mize and Carp.

That wouldn't be fascinating.  It would be depressing.  

On 4/9/2026 at 9:27 AM, 1984Echoes said:

Neither would I.

I think Tork-Greene-Carpenter have all peaked. ALL of them will need to be traded when the time is right because I wouldn't extend ANY of these 3 guys.

I'll let Scott Harris work out those details though... Their time will come soon enough.

I predict at least one move this coming offseason... Can't say who/ which is the first domino to fall...

But it's (the transition away from these 3 guys) coming... IMO.

I think it's pretty much a give that those guys will not be extended.  

55 minutes ago, Longgone said:

I don't think anyone knowledgeable ever said he couldn't play short. I believe they were speculating that he'd probably end up around major league average, which is pretty damn good btw, and if another player came along who could play above average short, it could push McGonigle to 2nd or 3rd, where he'd be above average, and he'd hit enough in any case.

Average defensive shortstop is very good!  Nobody said he couldn't play short, but when I see "might end up at another position", it seems like they usually do get moved off the position.  

Just now, gehringer_2 said:

yeah - it's basically Greene and Carpenter who making too many outs. Torkelson a more mixed bag - His OBP is OK because he is walking and he has been a bit BABip'd. He's already got a handful of warning track shots over 100 EV.

I am not sure those guys will stop making too many outs, but I am confident that all three with start hitting for more power.  

5 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Beyond that, it doesn’t matter whether Trump types out the words himself, whether he dictates it to somebody, or whether somebody posts it on his behalf without his even knowing it. As long as it comes out under his name, they are his words and his ideas. He is responsible for the post. He owns it, lock stock.

 

Correct.  

12 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Yup. We just dont know if Trump dictates what to write or approves of whatever has been written but I just dont think he would allow somebody to write something and post it without his approval. But I dont see him typing those words out, just too concise.

I just can't imagine he has the time or desire to even bother with it other than reading it and smirking about it.  I think that he selected a person who is loyal to him and can write controversial stuff that sounds like it could be him.  Regardless of whether or not it's actually him though, he has to own whatever is said in those posts.  

1 minute ago, NorthWoods said:

I don't know the answer.   I'm an oddball and can't stand anything like that on me.   Never worn a necklace, ring (with the exception of a wedding band for a few hours), watch, bracelet, nothing.....I just can't stand anything on me.

I wear a watch because I am very time conscious and I find it useful. I get why you wouldn't want to wear one. I would never wear any jewely.  I think it would be really annoying to wear anything like that and it is has no useful purpose for me personally. 

11 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Given that lying is the political tool de jure now-a-days, I try not jump to conclusions about any of this stuff. I believe two things are both true: 1) men have gotten away with this stuff in the main for a long time, 2) there is no XX chromosome linked truth gene either.

When has lying not been the political tool of the day?  

I strongly agree that men get away with lying much more easily.  When they do it, it is considered crafty and slick.  When a woman does it, she is a bad person.  

36 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

I'm not sure I follow the difference, when you say a guy can't stay at short, aren't you bascially saying he's a less than average quality SS - either his range or his arm is going to cost you enough there that you are willing to play a worse bat in his place and move him somewhere else?

Just looked back at the MLB scouting lists back to 2024, McGonigle was consistently 50/50 arm/glove. Just for comparison, Sweeney was 55/50 as a prospect for the Dodgers.

OTOH, I think for left side IFs, sometime throwing velo gets over emphasized and total time to 1b may be harder to quanitfy. For instance on the great play last night, a guy with a cannon might have set his feet and made a harder throw, McG looped the throw a bit but got if off very fast. All that matters is total time to the 1B's glove.

I didn't personally say he couldn't stay at short.  I was repeating what I have seen from scouting reports regarding "questions about his defense".  I think it is his range that is in question more than his arm though.  In my very amateur view, He is not Mark Belanger, but I have not seen any glaring weaknesses in his game which should force him to move off the position right now. 

1 hour ago, Sports_Freak said:

Were there questions about his defense?

 

I have never heard anyone say he was a bad fielder, just that his skills might be more suited to 2b oe 3b long-term rather than shortstop.  

56 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

And the Tigers are like junk food.   Empty calories.    Yeah, they may rank well in offensive categories, but they are meaningless because they can't score runs.    I mean, 2 runs off of Chris ****ing Paddock?     That's disgraceful.   Don't care how many hits they had last night - they didn't string many together and they won the game on a "how the hell did he pull that pitch?" home run.  

 

 

They aren't scoring runs because they are not hitting home runs and all teams are very dependent on home runs today.  I am encouraged that they are getting on base consistently.  The home runs will come.  There are a lot of positives in the offense - Dingler and McGonigle are fantastic.  Keith is showing a lot.  Baez will always be an enigma, but he looks more like the 2025 version than the 2024 version so far.  They don't look like the August-September, 2025 Tigers to me.  I think they'll be OK.