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19 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said:

Yeah, running laps, wind sprints, running stairs, rolls, burpees…..all of it tomorrow.  

They'll all get hurt.  

11 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said:

Well, the Marlins DFAd Chris Paddack….. go get him Scott!

 

Is Charlie Morton available too?

4 hours ago, chasfh said:

"Small price to pay", says the guy who never has to buy any gas.

I love it so much when billionaires tell poor people how they should feel about money.  

Short stay.  

18 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Still, it wouldnt surprise me one bit if he was back in 3 weeks or so. Whatever Schilling want thru is meaningless, IMO. I'm not expert but it seems like every case would be different. With millions of dollars on the line, Skubal needs to be as close to 100% before competing again. Again, just an opinion.

Yes, every case is different and it's impossible for us to make a timeline.  I am just always pessimistic about pitching injuries.  If something can go wrong, it will.  

1 hour ago, Sports_Freak said:

I was optimistic before reading this but even more so now. Tarik is a bulldog. He'll be back very quickly;

 

A pitcher trying to bulldog his way back from an elbow injury asking for big trouble. 

Curt Schilling? Maybe, Skubal can put ketchup on his sock when he gets back.   😀

7 hours ago, SoCalTiger said:

But does it feel like that to you ? I mean it seems far worse. Do those stats apply to close games or all games . It could be padded in blowout games or early in games which of course is still important but not like one or two run games 7th inning and later which seems real bad. But I do not have the facts like Joe Friday. 

Break it down any more than two outs with RISP and the sample size gets really small.  Thirty years of baseball social media have shown me that fans almost always feel like their team doesn't hit in the clutch.  I think it's because hitters fail more often than not in any situation, and fans remember the high leverage failures more vividly.  

37 minutes ago, UCFKNIGHT said:

It's not time to panic. Greene and McGonigle have been drawing their share of walks, but the tigers lineup just isn't clutch in 2-out situations. I'm hoping for a miracle and better results with RISP soon.

The Tigers are batting .318 with an .889 OPS with two outs and runners in scoring position.  

Apparently, Ricky Vanasco does not understand how pitching chaos works.   

2 minutes ago, UCFKNIGHT said:

I'm not happy with this most recent loss to the Red Sox, but I'm relieved Scott Harris didn't sign Skubal to a long term $200 million dollar contract. Skubal's value to other MLB teams just plummeted to $21 million over the next three seasons. Skubal must prove he can pitch in high leverage situations again.

Just high leverage situations?  

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

I have been assured repeatedly that Harris Hinch prefers pitching chaos, as well as a roster of nothing but utility players, because they think it highlights their contrarian genius or something

My post was not in anyway a criticism of how Harris and Hinch manage the roster.  I am 100% sure that Harris and Hinch are not happy that all the injuries are forcing chaos.  

1 minute ago, NorthWoods said:

Not mine.   It's more interesting to me.   To see how they can remain in contention while working through the adversity.

That's kind of where I am by default.  I liked it better when Skubal was healthy though!

1 hour ago, Edman85 said:

It's been a necessity both times.

In Toledo, Jake Miller, Troy Watson, and now SGL are out. In Erie, same with Sears, Hamm, Alba.

Right, there was/is no choice.  That doesn't mean it's going to work as well this time.  The fact that all those guys are hurt is why it's less likely won't work this time.  

7 minutes ago, CaliforniaDreaming said:

The big loser could be Skubal. I see $40,000,000 a year fading fast.

Might be the best time for the Tigers to make an offer!

Just now, kdog said:

The value you get back was not significant enough to sacrifice contention in 2026. They signed Framber and wanted to win..

Trading him was a bad business move.

Pitchers are always a risk, but they absolutely made the right move.  Once they signed Valdez, there was no question keeping Skubal was the right thing to do.  

As soon as I saw "precautionary", I suspected there was trouble.  There are no minor pitching injuries.  They are back to pitching chaos again.  It worked the first time and it was fun.  Not so much fun now.  

4 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

It was such a different era. Today it would be like: 

 

"Oh- someone shot the President? What color was the guy who shot him?" 

8 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Rico played 848 games over 9 seasons and managed to amass a whopping -1.1 WAR. Much like left handed relief pitchers, if you can hit 20 hr you keep getting chances. Zinter spent 13 yrs in AAA with an overall 838 OPS. A worthy nominee for the Mike Hessman association.

Brogna had a couple of decent years with the Mets in 94-95, but was below replacement level after that.   

Brogna was traded for Alan Zinter.  I remember having an argument on the AOL board with one of the dumbest baseball fans on the internet.  He said that Tony Clark was going to be another Alan Zinter.  I told him that Zinter was never a good prospect and was nothing like Clark.  He got really upset telling me I knew nothing about baseball and to get my head out of the spreadsheets. He assured me that Zinter was a stud prospect who flamed out.  The same guy once told me that Brookens was a good hitter because he was clutch.  That pretty much summed up my early days on social media. 

This guy was a high school teacher from Ohio.  😀

Sparky Anderson after Brogna was traded:"He's got a chance to be a good one some day, but I didn't want to wait to find out".   

12 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

Only 5 of the AL teams are at .500 or above and only NY and the Rays are playing at high levels. 

And the Rays have been lucky with a run differential just +7.  The Tigers are +18. 

25 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said:

They may be listed at that price but show me whose buying?

You can always find a stupid person to buy something.  

38 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

IIRC, when they drafted him Workman was rated a plus defender, but maybe he never lived up to that.

Well, Short better be a superior defender because he has no bat!

Grant Holman designated for assignment.