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I know Jacksonville's fan base is lacking in volume, but I wonder what their thoughts on Lawrence are. Most QBs don't get to go 7-21+ to start their career and still have a very lengthy rope entering their 3rd year. I know he was touted as a "generational prospect", but his stats haven't been all that, even if you consider the Urban year a wash.

To be fair, I think there is a "right" and "wrong" way to build a team. The Rams winning the Super Bowl doesn't necessarily mean that 31 teams should replicate everything they did. I think we see Jacksonville mismanaging that in a way right now. They threw a bunch of money at players in free agency to build a win-now team, before they had drafted anything (save Lawrence if he materializes) around the pieces they were inputting. They're 4-7, just like the Lions. The Rams tried building it through the draft to start, with pieces like Goff and Aaron Donald. A lot of those worked, some of them didn't, and as those players aged, and the Rams were good but still hadn't won a Super Bowl, it was at that point Snead put all his cards on the table, mortgaged the future, and it paid off. Now they're reaping the downsides of mortgaging the future. To the question "did the Rams build their team the wrong way", the answer is obviously no, but it's also not asking the question they think it is. If you're looking to when they built that team, you're looking to 2014-2017, not 2021. If you're looking to when they made that team a Super Bowl Champion, it's 2021. There is no wrong way to make a Super Bowl Champion if you succeed at making a Super Bowl Champion. To the question of whether Lions fans would prefer to win a Super Bowl and go back to sucking, the answer is obviously yes, but I think if given the choice I would prefer winning a Super Bowl AND sustained success... But just winning against Jacksonville on Sunday will do for now.

I think this is true barring any surprises tonight. If it's (1) Georgia, (2) Michigan, (3) TCU, (4) USC, (5) Ohio State, and (6) Alabama, as expected, I think this is true. If they inexplicably put Ohio State above USC, then there will be some question of whether a USC win against Utah will bump them above a one-loss Ohio State.

Have to wonder how far Hooker is going to fall with his injury. A torn ACL in week 11 is likely going to sideline him for much of the 2023 NFL season. If he's a guy you like, he could be there in the 3rd round or later, and you don't even have to worry about calls to put him in for Goff for an entire season. When you look at his SEC stat line, he seems like he could be very low risk (as far as selecting your future QB1 goes) and potentially immense reward.

I think he could look outside the B1G too. Tennessee will have Joe Milton and a 4* freshman after Hooker declares... Kentucky has no one noteworthy behind Will Levis.

This was posted on Instagram just two weeks ago. There is no way he'd be ready to suit up by January... I wish him the best of luck though. He brought Michigan to heights we have't seen in a long, long time and he deserves nothing but the utmost respect by this fanbase. I think if he lands in the right spot, he could be a winner and even pop up on some draft boards.

I'm curious to see what M's game plan for this game is. Last year, it felt like Michigan put 'pedal to the metal' against Ohio State for four quarters and pulled out all the stops and tricks to win that game. They kept it on against Iowa, and blew them out of the water. Then by the time they arrived to play Georgia, they were out of gas, out of tricks, and got shown the door very quickly. I wouldn't be shocked to see a return to the game plan of the first 11 games. Playing conservative, relying on the run game, and taking points where they're given. Doing just enough to leave with the win. Keeping what cards are remaining very close to the chest and not tipping anything to TCU, Georgia, or USC. Purdue has struggled to score at times this year. They only put up 3 against Iowa, 20 against Minnesota, and 17 against Northwestern. The latter two their defense kept them in it and they pulled out a win... I think allowing our defense to have first chance to win this game makes a lot of sense.

I think any of Chicago, Seattle, or Pittsburgh may snag him if given the opportunity. Carolina and Houston are the two that are almost certain to take a QB. It's a long way to the draft though. It's certainly possible that a Travon Walker has a meteoric rise out of nowhere and Anderson drops just enough.

vs. Setting: 12/04/2022 1:00pm EST on FOX Site: Ford Field in Detroit, MI Weather: Climate Controlled Opening Spread: Lions -1 All-Time Series Record: Lions lead, 4-3 Last Meeting: 10/18/2020, Lions won 34-16 Jacksonville Jaguars (4-7) Head Coach: Doug Pederson (6th Season: 46-44) Projected Starting QB: Trevor Lawrence (2nd Season: 7-21) Last Week: 28-27 W v. Baltimore Ravens (7-4) Looking Ahead to Week #14: Sunday @ Tennessee Titans (7-4) Your Detroit Lions (4-7) Head Coach: Dan Campbell (2nd Season: 7-20-1) Projected Starting QB: Jared Goff (7th Season: 49-44-1) Last Week: 28-25 L v. Buffalo Bills (8-3) Looking Ahead to Week #14: Sunday v. Minnesota Vikings (9-2) Elsewhere in the NFL Primetime: Bills @ Patriots (TNF), Colts @ Cowboys (SNF), Saints @ Buccaneers (MNF) 1:00pm: Steelers @ Falcons, Broncos @ Ravens, Packers @ Bears, Browns @ Texans, Jets @ Vikings, Commanders @ Giants, Titans @ Eagles 4:05/4:25pm: Seahawks @ Rams, Dolphins @ 49ers, Chiefs @ Bengals, Chargers @ Raiders BYE: Arizona Cardinals, Carolina Panthers

vs. Setting: 12/03/2022 8:00pm EST on FOX Site: Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis, IN Weather: Climate Controlled Opening Spread: Michigan -16.5 All-Time Series Record: Michigan leads, 45-14 Last Meeting: 09/23/2017, Michigan won 28-10 Purdue Boilermakers (8-4) Head Coach: Jeff Brohm (9th Season: 66-43) Projected Starting QB: Aidan O'Connell (6th-year Senior: 16-8) Last Week: 30-16 W @ Indiana Hooisers (4-8) #2 Michigan Wolverines (12-0) Head Coach: Jim Harbaugh (15th Season: 73-24) Projected Starting QB: JJ McCarthy (Sophomore: 11-0) Last Week: 45-23 W @ Ohio State Buckeyes (11-1) B1G Championship Game History

I think this is exactly right. It's not that Day is a "bad" coach. You don't go 42-5 across four seasons in the B1G as a bad football coach. But he inherited a well-oiled machine that could coach itself if it really needed to. For more than a decade, it was Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, and the field. From 2009 to 2018, those three schools won 8 of 10 championships. If you were a 5* athlete who wanted to win an FBS national championship, those were your three options to go do it, unless you planned on catching lightning in a bottle. It's why I'm on the record (though maybe on the old forum) as saying I didn't think Michigan stood a chance against Ohio State until the playoff expanded. It was like we were in the Minor Leagues and they were in the Majors. It didn't have to be Day as the figurehead for Ohio State. You could put anyone in that role, and they walk into CJ Stroud's living room and say "look what we do!", you've got a really good chance at securing them. When Urban left in 2018, that was the machine and system that Day walked into. And he's done a great job of changing absolutely nothing. They continue to recruit exactly how they did before and they continue to walk all over 12 of their opponents in the B1G. It's Michigan - Jim Harbaugh specifically - that has adapted and said "that's who we need to beat and this is how we are going to do it". Now the ball is in Day's court to show whether he can adapt too in this chess match, or whether being stuck on 3rd base will define his OSU legacy.

If Will Anderson is there, I think you have to consider him... And by consider him, it may be a Sewell situation where they submit that pick before the NFL is ready for it. He has had a "down" year this season, which for him is 10 sacks and 17 TFL through 12 games. He was an absolute freak of nature last year, with 17.5 sacks, 31 TFL, and 101(!) total tackles. Him and Hutch on opposite sides of the line could dominate the NFC North for a decade to come.

I would put TCU at like 95%, I think a blowout loss to Kansas State could put them in some jeopardy. Otherwise I believe you are correct.

I'll preface my response by saying that you are probably right as it relates to Deion. But... when Harbaugh was hired by Stanford, he wasn't some sure thing, or even universally praised. He was the 4th coach (the 3rd hire) for Stanford in the span of 5 years. He was a relatively successful I-AA coach at the University of San Diego who was on probation for a DUI. He had interviewed for the Tulane job and didn't get it. That didn't stop them from taking the gamble. They're in a vastly different place now than they were then (thanks to Harbaugh and Shaw), but they need another Harbaugh-like insurgence to bring them into the modern era of college football. I agree that Stanford is very similar to Michigan, but I don't that precludes surprise or out-there coaching hires. Juwan Howard wasn't really on anyone's radar when Michigan hired him for instance. That's worked out... at least some of the time. To answer your question though, Bernard Muir is not the same AD. Muir promoted Shaw to the position when Harbaugh went to the NFL. The AD that hired Harbaugh to Stanford was actually Bob Bowlsby, the current Big 12 Commissioner. Shaw and Harbaugh are tight though, and if Shaw is asked for his network's assistance, Harbaugh would almost certainly be asked his opinions.

It would be a shocking move, no doubt. I wouldn't put money on it either but I wouldn't rule it out. Stanford normally plays it safe with their hires, but he would inject livelihood into that program, university, and donor base that hasn't been seen since Harbaugh... Notably, Harbaugh was the last external hire that Stanford has made for the football program.

I took great joy in the 3rd quarter yesterday making the comment to some Ohio State friends “you know, I’m just really glad everyone played it safe during 2020 and held off on playing this game. I would have loved to play it but it just wasn’t safe!”

If Stanford wants him they’ll have to move quickly. I wouldn’t expect him to decide before the Celebration Bowl anyway though.

Agreed - he’s well respected. I think I predicted a few pages back that he would take a cushy admin or front office role. I could see the program waiting to gauge how new blood would feel about that before announcing it. Curious where the program goes from here. They care equally as much about how these players perform in the classroom and community as they do wins and losses. They’re not the type of program to make some massive offer to Luke Fickell or Matt Campbell, or to put up with Bill O’Brien’s schtick. I could see them making an easy choice and offering the job to Paul Chryst, Troy Calhoun, or Chris Petersen (though the latter two may not accept). I expect Troy Taylor of FCS Sacramento State will be considered… I could also see them going completely outside the box and offering Deion Sanders, Jay Harbaugh, or Andrew Luck the job.

Stand-up guy who just wouldn’t or couldn’t adapt. He’ll land on his feet - either in another gig if he wants one, or in Stanford’s administration.

Live look at the CFP Committee figuring out how to justify a second SEC team this year.

Fun watch.

I think Harbaugh could win ten straight games against OSU, and follow those up with ten straight losses in the CFP semis, and this town would still be elated as all get-up. This feels so damn good!!!