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There's been a bunch of off the court stuff with the Hornets, so I'm not surprised. He probably wants to coach a basketball team, not the Jailblazers 2.0
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Cheaters 😁🤣
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When he locks in on defense, he's tough to deal with due to his length and athleticism. Combine that with Boston's offense (and most teams in the NBA) of standing around and watching one player try to make a move and it becomes tough to score. On the other side, Boston has some great defenders, but Golden State's offensive system of relentless movement and passing is so much harder to game plan against.
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Interesting... https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/267398/Jaden-Ivey-Would-Prefer-Kings-Dont-Draft-Him
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Nice to hear that he actually participated in a competitive workout. Right now I'm assuming we're going to draft Murray. I like the kid and I'll be happy to root for him. Great character and I'm sure he'll be a solid player. But... I can't help but feel like he's the kind of player you can get in free agency or in the middle of the first round (like Bey). Meanwhile, if one of the others hit their ceiling (Ivey, Sharpe, and even Mathurin) you aren't signing that kind of player in free agency because that's an All-Star. For me, that's why I'd prefer one of them. You only get so many shots at All-Stars and even less if you're in a market like Detroit. You can get "solid" players anytime down the road through trades or free agency. Either way, I really just want to see the Pistons do more than just make their pick and go home. There's been so much talk about trading Grant for another pick and Weaver making sure his "clip is always empty" that if we walk away with just Murray and some nobody at pick #47 I'm going to feel like the clip definitely was not emptied.
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Does anyone lose the ball more going to the rim more than Jaylen Brown. He dribbles into traffic, gets stripped, passes it to nobody, or tosses up an off-balance bad shot. Not once or twice per game, but over and over again. I noticed it early in the playoffs, then it got worse against Miami and I just thought, "OK, Oladipo is doing a good job on him"...but now I see this is just Jaylen Brown. It happens so much it's almost predictable. Frustrating to watch even as a Piston's fan semi-rooting for Boston, but I can't imagine how frustrated Boston fans must be with it.
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He came from the Boston coaching tree, right? So maybe he could have been viewed as the successor to Casey in a year or two? Is this something Detroit fans should be disappointed about? Honestly don't keep up on assistant coaches enough to know how some of these guys are viewed in the league and with the fanbase.
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I can't imagine any of the big 3 drop farther than #4. People have been touting this as a "big 3" draft talent-wise for a long time now and all of those teams would rather draft a big than a guard. Plus, having one of them draft Ivey would make SAC's day since they'd much rather grab one of the "big 3" instead of staring at Ivey (or having to trade out) since they just traded away Haliburton.
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Who's going to be the awkward one that's still sitting there a bit too long this year? AJ Griffin?
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This Warriors team loves playing the innocent good guy to the media while they go out there and do the same or worse.
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Unless it's Sharpe. He probably won't participate in that either 😄
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If it's Jabari. If not, you answer the phone because multiple GMs are about to give you a king's ransom to get that pick.
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I came here to say this exactly. He should've been ejected from multiple games now. The refs just let him get away with anything and apparently if he already has 1 tech, they aren't going to give him another no matter what he does because they "don't want to impact the game in that way." This is why NBA refs get such a bad rap - just call each play as it's meant to be called and drop the meta gaming.
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No thanks on Ayton. Yes, he'll give you more regular season wins, but I'm thinking about the playoffs and if you've been watching the playoffs for the past few years you know that drop coverage Centers are tough to keep on the floor in a lot of matchups. You see them getting played off the court by 5 out lineups, getting their minutes shortened, and sometimes sitting for entire series. I'm talking about guys who were core pieces for their team all year like Gobert, Lopez, Ayton, Adams, etc. Even in the finals just last night they were talking about how Udoka is pulling Robert Williams in order to keep up with the perimeter switching they need against the Warriors. I don't want my highest paid player to be matchup dependent like that in the playoffs. That's the first strike against him. And it's not just a matter of paying him the max, the suns aren't just going to let him walk. If they can't pull off a sign and trade, then it makes way more sense for them to just match any offers and trade him later. That means you also have to give up major assets for the privilege of maxing out a drop-coverage Center. Strike two. And that's before we even get into the character issues, the bad work ethic that has him pulling all-nighters playing video games rather than focusing on basketball, and the fact that it's not even working out on a contender...how's he going to act on a team that's not good yet? Third strike. Give me someone like Mitchell Robinson, Jalen Duren (if we can snag a later lotto pick), or another affordable Center who can give me 90% of what Ayton gives at 30% of the cost and not have to give up assets on top of that cost.
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I've heard Bogdanovic and 16 as the rumored return. I'd do it. You avoid paying Grant 25M a year for four years and maintain cap flexibility for a team that's still finding its stars. Pistons are leaning towards Murray, who will replace Grant for a fraction of the price. Bogdanovic can space the floor and has just 2 years left on his deal, which expires when you have to pay Bey/Stewart. Plus you can probably get a solid player at 16 depending upon who drops. I expect whatever trade the Pistons make will happen on draft night when we know who we get at #5 and who may be left around the time that the other team is picking.
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That should help calm things down and bring order to the Lakers train wreck.
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Thanks. I like the logic and hope he has the ceiling you're projecting for him. Really that's my main concern with him. I want that 2nd guy next to Cade before getting "the others". I don't see his ceiling as quite that high, but I hope you're right because it really sounds like the Pistons are very high on him and I do think he's a great culture fit for the team.
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These blowouts go hand in hand with the proliferation of the three ball. One team gets hot, the other gets cold and all of a sudden you have a 20+ point game since you're not allowed to play the type of defense that can keep you in the game in those situations anymore. Ironic that the downside of trying to make the game more exciting by reducing defense and increasing perimeter scoring has resulted in more blowouts that people don't want to watch.
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Big win for the Celtics and a fun game to watch. They dialed in on defense and got super hot from three at the same time in the 4th. Huge turnaround.
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Interesting top 4. Is this just being different for clicks? 😄 I'm not there on Daniels, but he does seem to rising up draft boards. I'm curious about you ranking Murray so high. Are you just trying to get an early start on coping with the fact that Pistons are probably going to take him? Seriously though, do you see his ceiling as higher than others are projecting or are you just cool with the idea of getting a high floor guy rather than the riskier picks?
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A nice balance between the two would have been great, because now they've swung too far the other way. Although I enjoyed watching my team crush people on defense, I think 70 pt games are a bit of a slog. But 120 pt games where nobody can play defense without sending someone to the line are no fun either.
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Yeah, I heard that on his podcast yesterday, and it's funny because I also heard Omari Sankofa on his pod say that the Pistons are very high on Ivey. It's 1/2 smokescreen and 1/2 changing opinions at this point. Pistons are also one of the teams not announcing (for the most part) who they're bringing in for workouts, so I think everything is being played close to the vest.
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Agree with the top half of your take. I like Mathurin. If you're taking the safe player, I'd rather have him than Keegan Murray because he has a higher ceiling. Of course, if drafting Murray means we're trading Grant to get the #7 pick, then by all means give me both of those players 😄 I want as many chances at finding that 1 in 10 All-Star or Superstar in this draft as possible, which brings me to the next point... I disagree with the second half of your take. We were near .500 after the All Star break when Cade got going. This team is highly unlikely to get another top 5 pick lotto pick while Cade is here. All-Star free agents don't come to Detroit either. That means the only way you're getting another star next to Cade is by trading away other assets. A team with only one star is a sure fire way to play your way into NBA mediocrity - not good enough to compete for a championship but not bad enough to get a good lottery pick. Good teams that aren't hot NBA destinations get there by maximizing their draft picks and finding stars with house money (the draft). Just look at the teams in the finals - Tatum and Brown were both Celtics lotto draft picks that turned into stars. Curry and Klay were both GS lotto draft picks that turned in Stars. I think this is a huge pick and probably the defining off-season for Weaver's rebuild. It's the first time he's had to make any real, meaningful decisions. Playing it safe to get a role player or a simple starter really doesn't do anything for you because you can sign those guys for affordable contracts in the NBA. This is one of your few remaining chances to hit on a draft pick that could make you a contender in a few years. So, if you think Mathurin is that guy, then you take him 100%. If not though, and you're just picking him because he's a safe role player, then that's a mistake in my eyes.
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Maybe a trade for Luke Kennard?
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Should be an interesting series. GS probably the favorite, but I'll be rooting for the Celtics. I think a lot will be determine by how it's officiated. If the Celtics are allowed to play physical then they have a chance with their defense, but if the refs are blowing the whistle a lot then it favors Golden State's movement offense. If those guys can just run around without getting touched on the perimeter, they're going to be tough to stop.
