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That's not exactly what I am saying - I think she ran the best campaign she could but was tied too closely to the administration. And she actually did do things to try and moderate and appeal to a broader base, which I imagine you don't believe she did as well. But she inherited the role with 107 days left in the campaign. And no, there wasn't an alternative because Whitmer or Pritzker or Shapiro or whoever weren't likely going to expend political capital trying to get around a sitting VP in an environment this bad. And as I keep saying, given everything that happened, they largely were able to limit their losses in Senate races and are likely going to force the House GOP to lose seats. Biden would have lost by even more than she did. The turnout issues felt mostly in blue states would have been felt everywhere... those Senate seats in MI/PA/WI and (maybe) AZ would have been long gone, and they would have lost seats in House. The good night they had in NC in state races, does that happen if he's there as well? Maybe Mark Robinson's toxicity would have won out, but IDK. We just fundamentally disagree here. This thing could have been much much worse for the Democratic Party had he not gotten out. There's a lot of time between them and now, and they will figure something out. Personally a fan of Ruben Gallego, although he needs to be inaugurated into the Senate still. Conversely, maybe the GOP needs to start thinking about life after Trump. He cannot run again, and they have yet to find a candidate that can be Trump without actually being Trump (and no, JD Vance ain't it)

Even setting aside the idea that he doubled (not clear that is the case at this point), he went from getting high single digit support to low teens support. In the context of the election, where it is fought over thousands of votes in seven states, obviously meaningful. Does it mean that he's popular with black voters? By any objective measure, going from 7% support to ~12% support suggests that he remains incredibly unpopular with black voters overall. So when you say things like "only lib SJW's care about whether Trump has representation in his cabinet", you can understand how it might be a little hard to believe given how little support he gets in terms of votes from the black community. Regardless of whether it was a small improvement over fours years ago or not. Possibly? I think what makes it hard to tell is the significant turnout drop in safe blue states.... without having the exact numbers in front of me, Trump garnered roughly the same support in terms of raw votes that he did four years ago in Illinois, yet Kamala Harris earned 500-600k less votes than Joe Biden did. Certainly that says a lot about Democratic enthusiasm in this cycle and the issues that Harris had outrunning the administration's issues, but 2028 isn't necessarily going to be a carbon copy of 2024. And Trump himself will NOT be in the ballot. Also think we need to understand that events happen during a Presidency that can impact their popularity... Biden had a positive approval and lost it in 2021. Don't be surprised if the same thing happens to Trump (as it kinda did in term 1 as well, though he never had a favorable approval rating) There were never going to be riots in the streets with his election this time. I'm not demanding talking points.... I'm trying to have an actual conversation. It's not about having differing opinions.

I've overall been surprised how much of a presence has been established by non-political accounts on the app versus journalism/political accounts. Personally noticed it early on This thread from Conor Sen was sort of interesting and I think gets at part of it... https://bsky.app/profile/conorsen.bsky.social/post/3lbdmpjo3lk2k; Twitter has in some ways become a place for people who heavy hitters who want to talk *at* people (because of it's reach) while Bsky kinda recaptures the old magic and fosters actual engagement in the comments (without being overwridden by bots). Like Ewsieg though, while the app will likely never outrun having a more left political lean, I do hope that it doesn't get too grifter-lefty or echo-chambery. I would like to think the people running it have learned from experience (having been born out of Twitter in the first place), but we shall see.

Yet when I try to talk about the winning candidate, you never engage.... there always seems to be a "whaddabout the losing candidate" pivot. Interesting.

From my perspective, Donald Trump is the President-elect now. A full understanding of how he got to this point and what he plans on doing going forward is far more pertinent today and will remain more pertinent than Kamala Harris will be. At some point, hiding behind and punching down on Kamala Harris is gonna have a shelf life. If it hasn't passed already. Put even more succinctly, congratulations, your guy won... to the winner goes the attention and scrutiny. That's how it works lol

Yep... 100% It's overall very telling that all roads lead back to "whaddbout Kamala" with Holic conversations.

Your "direct" question in response to a point about Donald Trump's support (or perceived support) in the black community was to ask about a completely different candidate and Oprah. Apparently we have different definitions of the word "direct" lol

The term, mentioned here before, is "thermostatic response".... and it generally comes for all incoming Presidents (including the incoming one during his first term) I doubt this time will be any different.

You're going to do what you are going to do... Nobody's telling you otherwise. But if you aren't going to engage on the actual substance of anything I post, why should I be expected to engage on your unrelated and irrelevant points?

It's easier than defending the teevee doctor running Medicare and Medicaid, that's for sure.

Pretty clearly was discussing Trump's level of support (and perceptions of his support) within the black community. Ya got anything on that? Or are we gonna play "whaddabout Kamala?" some more

You're spot on here, there will be some that will it explain it all away in the short term if it comes to pass. The risk for them is that it quite possibly misreads why the median voter went their way in this election.

Not clear what any of this has to do with the point I was making.

The celebrity endorsements are part of the story, but the media has largely done a piss poor job in framing what happened with various groups in this election. Like, it isn't debatable that Trump will end up doing better than most GOP candidates in our lifetimes with black voters (going from winning 7% to somewhere between 10-12%), which matters a lot in terms of electoral politics. But somewhere along the way, this morphed into "Trump is wildly popular with black voters." Which seems to have lose sight of the fact that a candidate only winning 12% of a group is still, by any definition, getting rinsed.

The only thing I told you to do was to look at the scoreboard (ie. somewhere between 88-12 and 90-10)

When the dust settles on this election, even after focusing on the share improvements across the board (as you have done repeatedly), you're probably looking at Donald Trump's opponent getting somewhere between 88-90% share of the African American vote. In that context, it would be surprising if the vast majority of the community didn't notice a lack of representation within his cabinet. I don't need to look for a story to tell me that... The vote share tells the story about what the black community largely thinks about Donald Trump.

Also advocates the use of beef tallow for fries... Health benefits aside, with as many fast food restaurants as we have in the United States, could you imagine what that would do to prices? For an administration that is coming to power largely off of backlash to recent inflation, they sure seem to embrace or signal policy shifts that would just reignite it.

I gave up all soda at Lent in 2017 and haven't looked back... Diet Pepsi was my drug of choice. Overall has been very good for my health

I have been able follow some accounts that I value who have Bsky accounts in the few days that I've had both, but kinda realized today that it wasn't worth holding onto. I had more or less logged off the past few days anyway and didn't feel the desire to go back

I deactivated my account Twitter account today.... just didn't feel that it met my needs any longer.

1) It really isn't shocking at all tho 2) I'm not doing four more years of anonymous Trump ally's backfilling an explanation for taking certain actions and taking it at face value

"I haven't seen it, therefore it doesn't exist"

Dude literally tried to invalidate millions of votes in the last election. But crickets from certain folks

But hey, the libs are being owned... That's all that matters lol

BREAKING President-elect Trump says he intends on nominating Dr. Oz to serve as CMS Administrator. As CMS Administrator, Dr. Oz will oversee Medicare, Medicaid, and the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP). These programs provide healthcare to over 100 million Americans. What a joke... another teevee nomination