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If someone is a rape victim but believes that the Holocaust didn't happen.... does that mean that that person's opinion should just be accepted at face value, no questions asked? Just trying to follow the logic here... someone correct me if I'm wrong.

In the early 20th century, it was the Italians, Poles and other Eastern Europeans.... it was the Germans before them, and then the Irish before them. In terms of being amongst the 'other', being gay was unforgivable until not long ago.... 50-60 years ago, people could marry people outside of their race. We had the "red scare" back in the 1950s. And obviously our history with Civil Rights and Women's Suffrage... I love this country, and we have a history of figuring this stuff out in the end.... but the struggles are all very predictable. Because we do it to ourselves over and over again.

Brendan White took a hard fall too....

This is all such a big moral panic. Again, a non-trans male could easily breach any restroom at any Walmart or Target in the United States without being noticed, and yet because of how ****ty our politicians are (particularly the one soon to be inaugurated), here we are arguing over this as if it's the most pressing issue facing the United States right now. Has there been a single documented case of a trans person accosting someone in a restroom? Has there been one? It's an honest question, but would not be surprised if the number is zero or very close to it.

This is all macro level...

Go to the bathroom, it will be OK?

Mace is also a performance artist whose entire MO since entering Congress is finding new ways to draw attention to herself. It's hilarious to see how people will wrap themselves around the axle going after the Eric Swalwell types in the D Party who will then turn around and take Nancy Mace at face value.... they are literally cut from the same cloth. It's horrible that she had to endure being raped; it just doesn't change the nature of who she is and the persona she has cultivated in her official capacity. And criticism of that is completely fair game.

Pretty sure the bluechecks are the ones obsessed with other people's genitalia on Elon's iteration of the app

You would acknowledge that a non-trans male could easily breach any restroom at any Walmart or Target in the United States without being noticed, correct?

Also, some of us who aren't die-hard Rs change our own oil and do most of our own car repairs, do our own projects around the house and have worked in physically demanding environments. Has Trump installed a ceiling fan in his life or switched out the alternator in his car? Or changed a flat tire? Hell, has he even driven a car in the past 30 years???

At the micro level (ie. not considering how we differ on actual policy), most all of us want the same things out of our lives as those we disagree with on this stuff.

Also would rather have my kids be in a bathroom with a trans person than the President-Elect's first nominee for AG

Don't remember this at all because it didn't happen... Also a little disappointing to see, after all the effort put into trying to have a good faith conversation the other day on this subject, you just come out and completely mis-characterize all of it. Hard to engage in good faith like this.

Generalizations for me, not for thee.... it's the postmodern conservative way.

To be clear, your position is that generalizing about people is OK? Per your opinion above, Joe Biden making a generalization about people is OK. Just trying to follow your logic.

Is this garbage really necessary?

Conservatism is basically a post-modern concept these days for sure

I would argue that being very much against public funding being used in an unaccountable fashion to go to private institutions is actually the conservative position.

History will judge on the scoreboard, it is what it is.... where we differ is in terms of viewing the full picture and how much different the downballot races look if she isn't ultimately elevated over Biden. Ultimately, if there is anyone to blame for all of this, it's him.

I don't think she was the ideal candidate and she did run a legitimately bad campaign in 2020. But the dye was more or less cast when Biden picked her to be his running mate in 2020. Where I differ with Tigeraholic is that I think she legitimately ran a better campaign this time than in 2020 and, in the process, her elevation likely made a difference in downballot races.... does anybody think, knowing what we know today, that Tammy Baldwin and Elissa Slotkin win their Senate races if they were sharing a ballot with Joe Biden, for instance? Does the Democratic Party gain a seat or two in the House if Biden is on the ballot? Doesn't mean she wasn't a flawed candidate or that she was the most platonic ideal, I just think a lot of the grousing about how terrible she and leaning it on her bad 2020 performance misses the forest through the trees... Trump winning sucks, but given where we all sat in Early July 2024, this thing could have been so so so much worse for the D Party. Even though some can't seem to acknowledge it.

Going for Pam Bondi after Gaetz withdrawing does make it seem like there isn't much a strategy behind these picks and that he's just picking cronies.

That would have been ideal.... honestly he could have did as late as Fall 2023 and it would have helped at least. But he didn't.

Elections in the United States are cyclical and dependent on a lot of external factors, including the economy, incumbency and many other things. Hillary and Kamala were put in tough positions in each of their elections.... I honestly didn't realize at the time when Hillary was running (in part because I was blinded by thinking we were better than electing the teevee star to become POTUS) at how, historically, difficult it is for a party to win three consecutive terms. That just doesn't happen in this country. She wasn't perfect, I voted for her and wanted her to win, but I understood that. Kamala's situation was much different... I think she did everything she possibly could but, after seeing how the results came in on election night and how uniform the swing was almost everywhere, it reads like she was pissing into the wind. And that if it were Josh Shapiro or JB Pritzker, they would have been pissing into the wind too. There's a broader global context here - inflation hit everywhere in 2022 and 2023, and in 2024, it has been lethal for sitting governments. And that's more likely than not what happened here. She wasn't the perfect candidate, but in terms of how she carried it out, I just cannot find a whole lot of fault (no matter how much some protest) I am 36 years old and I think we will get there, perhaps not too far into the future.... but I do think we need to note that Clinton and Harris both were in tough situations when they ran

Even setting aside the lack of experience, he's just a terrible politician.... in a year when row office holders in Ohio were running away with massive victories - he won by six points in 2022. And while I know he's getting a second look at the moment because Trump did win - I don't think he contributed much of anything to it. The biggest thing is that he's just a tremendous phony.... I read his book, the one that made him famous. He traded off of his background and his ancestors. And willingly did a 180 from what he wrote for power. On a personal level, it's disqualifying. On a political level, it clearly mattered in 2022, it mattered in this cycle. And whether he ends up being President and has to stand for reelection (nonzero chance) or if he has to run a Republican primary, he's going to have to answer for it a little more than he did as Trump's VP