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Odds on a blown save: 71.64%

Yes. A Much better explanation. Thank you.

Rogers would be a good counter balance to the gritty leader we don't have.

I think he's more vengeful than gritty.

What a waste of time that trade was for both sides.

Seattle has a couple nice prospects. Dodgers have an entire outfield of highly rated prospects plus some pitching. Yankees could build a deal around Lombard.

Not well. 337 is creating new ones by thumping me for wanting gritty players. He's demanding talent.

Time will tell, but we differ there. I think Skubal draws 2 gold plated prospects.

I feel like they're close to competing, they just need to reset the team a bit. I think they need some players that irritate you if they're on an opposing team. Jahmai Jones and Wenceel Perez get under no one's skin nor do they motivate their teammates. We need an edge.

11 blown saves sucks. I wish Chris Illitch would issue and organizational decree to stop signing washed up old relievers.

Maybe Heather needs help on the grounds crew?

I've been around for 13 of those.

Or if enough get healthy he needs to go to the scrap heap, some team will grab him.

They pitch to the score.

Honestly i wish we were talking about what hitter(s) we could add but I don't think this is that year. Realistically the primes for the core of this team don't align with Skubal to trying to add some other younger prospects makes sense in that regard too.

Obviously you missed Red's post. Much more recent examples. Id recommend you read it. I apologize for not dedicating my afternoon to researching minutae of baseball trades to refute your erroneous statement. Ortiz, Schilling, and others in my post played this century so stop beating that horse. It is as it has always been. Some prospects pan out, some don't. The prospect you never acquire will never work out for you.

Absolutely. Admitting errors is hard. I try to do it twice a year so as not to get rusty.

I agree with this 100%

I think Mize is panning out. Riley will be around MLB for a long time. Tork im not so sure.

The Tigers appeared in that story more than I would have guessed.

How has that worked out for Baltimore? Hmmm..... Baltimore 21 -29

Golly I thought Adames was still playing, silly me. And yes those are older though your 40 years ago is an exaggerration to cover the fact that your statement is wildly wrong. Many of those players played well into this century. It's harder to cite more recent trades because the results aren't fully in. In 10 years, we'll know more. Sorry that it doesn't work for message board outrage.

Oh I agree, as I said somewhere else - prospects are always a roll of the dice. But if you don't roll them you can't hit boxcars.

This belongs better in this thread.... The Tigers? Adames. Smoltz. And.............. Hanly Ramirez, Anibal Sanchez, Cliff Lee, Grady Sizemore, Carlos Baerga, Joe Carter, Adam Wainwright, Michael Brantley, Jay Buhner, Corey Kluber, Jeff Bagwell, Jason Varitek, derek Lowe, Curt Schilling, Moises Alou, David Ortiz Were all traded mid season as prospects...and I know I'm missing many as well as lesser but yet successful players. The Tigers dismal track record doesn't mean everyone fails.