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Lots of posters here were, and not just one or two guys. I was personally getting a lot of static for insisting that Avila was an abject failure by people who countered me with how many Avila guys were still on the team and in the system, and apparently because Harris didn't release them all when he came on board, Avila gets the credit for bringing them on board and helping to build the next Tigers winner. I even got hammered for saying Avila did not make a genius move by drafting Skubal in the ninth round and Carpenter 19th round. That was just a month ago! As for Avila being worse than Randy Smith, you've probably seen how people here roundly reject that assertion, although I'm probably the closest guy to you here on that point.

Javy's defense isn't great this year. It isn't even particularly good. That's what's going to make it easier to cut him before we carve the turkey after the Lions game.

Fair point. He’s likely to be here, too, provided he doesn’t spend two of the next three seasons on the List.

I don’t know, there are a lot of people who post here who like to make predictions of future Tigers teams that invariably include all these guys we have in our system right now. So for them it would be a revelation, and maybe even one that offends them at that. No one likes to Adopt-a-Tiger who’s on the fast track to Nowheresville.

As much as people want to give Al Avila equal (or even more!) credit for the eventual revival of the Tigers by dint of our still having guys on the team he acquired, I think what we will find is that almost all of them will be gone by 2027. We’ll definitely have Colt Keith, we’ll probably still have Riley Greene, and possibly Reese Olson, and maybe even Tarik Skubal if we can sign him. But it wouldn’t floor me to see practically all the rest gone, including perhaps Tork and Mize and Meadows, probably Perez and some bubble-40 guys like Campos and Workman and Flores, and certainly Manning and Kreidler and Baddoo and Rogers, and probably all of Avila’s relievers. All gone. Bookmark this post so you can lambast me, or the memory thereof, in 2-1/2 years. 😁

Hopefully, because I think the chances we move Tork in a trade this year is low single digits at best. On the flip side, there could be an audacious move that Harris makes that could really shake up the organization and continue scrubbing away the remains of Al Avila’s thumbprints on it.

It doesn’t matter how blue an area is as long as they are still subject to cristofascist laws passed by their blood-red state legislatures about choice, gender identity, religion in the public square, voting rights, and the like.

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I have not seen anything national yet suggesting Tork is a dead loss. The only I’ve seen that expressed is here.

Good question. This was my out of the box idea from a couple days ago, packaging him with Flaherty to goose the return on a deal. We wouldn’t take a bag of balls for him.

He might end up being a part of the wave of Harris pickups that will wash the Avila guys out into the sea.

They look Shopped. I mean his.

How about Jung at 2B, Keith at 1B, and sell Tork at the deadline?

Aha, there we go …

And Trump has been teeing up in his rallies that he is going to pardon Assange, and at that point it’s basically 50/50 that he gets a job in the administration.

Casey Mize is now showing up this today: https://stathead.com/tiny/Rty1f

I’ve been gone all night and didn’t see the game. I just looked at the box and, holy sh*t, Casey Mize. I just did a query, and Casey Mize is literally only the second guy in modern baseball history to strike out at least 10, walk nobody, give up at least nine hits, and do it all in 4-1/3 innings or less: https://stathead.com/tiny/JjwEf This is a very modern baseball thing to do. Nobody could have done this before the last ten or fifteen years, because of how the game has evolved.

If he knew Demeter was a greek goddess when he was a kid, it probably got him pushed into a bunch of puddles by the other kids, too. 😉

Sounds like a typical media gripe. It makes the beat guys' job a little harder to have executives not afflicted by logorrhea, or as though the GM is on sodium thiopental. Boo hoo for them. Besides, I actually think the things the coaches and players do say to the media are a lot more interesting since Harris and the new people he's hired behind the scenes have come aboard. They are actually talking about process, which I find fascinating, instead of hiding behind opaque disneyfied jockspeak. I'm all for that.

I don't think executives in the game share the same prejudice borne of disappointment that you and others here have about Tork. I'm fairly certain they think of him as a massive hitting talent who's simply flailing about in Detroit. The guy set all kinds of records in college. I'd bet there are at least a dozen other organizations that think they can fix him.

It's Bowden, so ... yeah. I think Harris is looking for close-to-major-league-ready sticks. Maybe guys who can't help us so much this year, but for sure next year. I'd be surprised if he goes for a guy with a 2027 ETA or anything like that.

The Pipeline rating of Parada at #9 is garbage. He's a low-average hitting catcher with a touch of pop, which the Tigers already have a few of in their system, so no way we make this trade. Fangraphs doesn't have Parada even among their top 42 prospects, in part because he "has regressed as a hitter and stagnated as a defender in pro ball." He is a sunk cost, so if I'm a Mets fan, I want this trade all day long. But I'm a Tigers' fan, so the Mets and Bowden can stick this trade right up their butt sideways.

I would think just about anyone who stays in Louisiana, or any of the deep red confederate states, either embraces the fascism or simply can’t escape.

I predicted to someone not long ago that the Royals would be well under .500 during the second half of the season, but it looks like that level of play might be arriving sooner than later.

Yeah, i would think the chances of our trading Tork would be in the low single digits. I was just throwing it out there as an out-of-the-box idea. One of the problems with trading Tork now would be the message it would send to other young players: if Tork, a 1/1 pick just a few years ago, can be traded off by this front office, it could happen to anyone. If no one, not even a generational hitting talent like Tork, is safe, then why bother giving your heart and soul to this team? That would work completely counter to building the kind of selfless team-first environment Harris says he wants to build here.