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I think eight years is a borderline length, and $35MM is a borderline AAV. I think Correa would rather do a 1/35+ for another year, since he’s only 28 next year, and take another crack next year. An eight-year deal this year ends after his age 35 season. I think he’ll want something that takes him deeper into his career.

Thursday—five days after the end of the Series.

How would the Houston Astros, arguably the greatest developmental franchise in the history of baseball, with their ability to switch out Hall-of-Fame-track players with suitable replacements, make someone like Correa less valuable to other teams?

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If what he really wants is to destroy the democratic free-for-all that is Twitter, then paying the bills doesn’t matter.

To secure Correa at 9/315 would require at minimum that no other team offer him nine years. It would also probably have to include multiple outs in the first three years. Any contender matches us on years, though, and we won’t stand a chance in any case.

Get an eyeful of baseball, gents, tonight might be it after all.

Because more than 5 years is worth…more security.

Because Carlos Correa wanted more than five years, and he’s easily the kind of player that can get it.

Not sure what you’re trying to disparage with the quotes, but Correa didn’t take the offer because he was never going to accept a five-year deal from the Astros.

Considering the contracts Trout, Rendon, Arenado, Stanton, Lindor, Seager, Machado, Springer, Altuve, Harper, and Freeman are working off of, if any team can get Correa for only three years at a $29MM AAV, especially after putting up a five-spot in wins on his own 3/105, I think they'd be getting a huge bargain.

Yeah, the rundown looked pretty ugly. I thought he'd get a concussion from the knee to the head. I don't know which grade his sprain is, but I got a grade 2 MCL sprain sliding into home plate in June. Haven't been back on the field since because it's been slow going coming back. I have a couple decades on Yuli so no wonder it's such a a slow go for me, but Yuli ain't no spring chicken neither, so ... hope he's all right for spring.

I think he sees his audience as more than just "social media".

So it's official: they are requiring payment for the blue check mark: This confirms it for me: I think Elon Musk is trying to destroy Twitter. I think it might be because as a billionaire who wants to rule the world, he needs to destroy accountability outlets, and Twitter is a main one of those. The criticism flows freely on Twitter and gets shared instantaneously and everywhere—destroy it, and he and his ilk escape one of today's main avenues of accountability. I bet his partners in equity and debt financing the deal are shitting a brick realizing that this weekend.

Or the '61 Astros! 😅 EDIT: Correa didn't leave the Astros for the money so much as he left them for the years. Yeah, yeah, I know, he took only "three" years from the Twins, but that was a contract he would sign only with escape clauses after each season, to position himself to get all those years he really wants this time around. Will it work? Stay tuned ...

Fact is, Elon has no interest in reconciling anything, because he is playing to an audience that not only does not require that, it's an audience that would actively punish him for his apostasy.

I wouldn't think that's enough, but you may be right, since this is all conjecture, anyway. Point is, we agree that the pay is not the only thing. Number of offers fielded, number of years, teams involved, cities involved, known winning culture, respectfulness of the offer—all those criteria are in the mix and could lead a player to take less money from one team over more money from another. When it comes to that possibility, I think the main criterion is the matter of degree in the differences among the offers.

Exactly. People like to say that players are all about the money, and will always take the higher bid, but we know that's not true. At a certain level, especially when you already have well into nine figures guaranteed to be coming to you anyway, a few million doesn't mean so much. Players want to get paid, but players are wired to win. I'm not saying Correa would never ever take an offer from the Tigers over an offer from the Yankees. He very well might if the difference were substantial enough. You and I agree that the difference between $37 and $35 wouldn't cut it. Personally I don't think $40 would cut it, either. $45? Now I think you're getting his attention, bu-u-u-t ... I don't know. $50? I think Correa could be talked into taking $50MM from the Tigers over the $35MM over the Yankees and put up with the losing for a couple years, as long as he gets that opt out if the Tigers don't fulfill the promise of getting better enough to contend by that time. That's the kind of overpay I can't imagine the Tigers having to make to keep him from taking an offer from a current contender.

The Tigers can also get two pretty bad players for that. See Baez, Javier; Rodriguez, Eduardo. At least with the $35 million you'd be paying Carlos Correa at this stage of his career, you can be pretty confident you're getting a good player. Some here pooh-pooh the idea, but if the going market rate for a win above replacement as suggested in this article is roughly $8 million for a 2+ WAR player, then by that measure, Correa was worth the money. Sure, it would have been worth a lot more to the Dodgers or Mets than the Twins, but just because his teammates, especially his pitchers, couldn't help him pull his team into the playoffs, I don't think that should detract from the value his performance provides.

Players almost always take the years, but I didn’t say anything abut years. I’m talking about dollars. If Tigers offer $37 million and the Yankees offer $35 million, which offer is he taking?

If it were to come down to the Tigers offering, say, $37 million and the Yankees offering $35 million, which team would win him?

Maybe not.

I’m glad you appreciate the overview. Maybe some people believe that Al Avila worked super hard at his job but just wasn’t any good at it. But if Al wasn’t acquiring talent—the top job for any rebuilding team—at the rate of even the average team, then just what was it Al was working so super hard at?

I can’t imagine the kind of overpay it would take to get Carlos Correa to come here and lose for at least two more years.

That’s right, and some businesses get themselves into that treadmill, to the detriment of the rest of the business. BTW, just to be clear I wasn’t intending to imply that’s how fast feeders and car washes should treat their employees. I’m suggesting that’s how many of them do. Although there’s this one car wash nearby I suspect might be using undocumented immigrants as more or less indentured labor, obviously a different ball of wax.