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13 hours ago, buddha said:

fifa already talking about going to 64 teams by 2030.

why even have a qualifying tournament?  every country gets in.

ridiculously watering down the tournament.  As carlos querioz said earlier, its the vulgarization of the tournament.

It’s the same that we’ve seen with the NCAA.   We’ve gotten to the point that it’s not even hidden that making money along with their TV partners is more important than the actual sporting event.   Only when revenue stops increasing will it ever revert back.  

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Argentina is such the paradox.  They have the most exciting player to maybe ever play the game.  Yet, they play such a slow, boring style reminiscent of why soccer never really took off in America.    The game has changed the past 2 decades.  It’s gotten much more vertical and the build ups quicker and more direct than the old kick the ball back and control possession and slow it down. Watching Argentina is like going back in time and it’s not a good thing.  

They are trying to slow the tempo down as that suits Messi now. They do try to counter but that seems to be the only transition they really attempt.  It’s a night and day style from the other top teams.  Spain play a possession style but it’s so very different and they are still looking to attack.   The Switzerland game is one where maybe you’d expect the Swiss to play slower and more deliberate but they were much more the aggressor on pushing tempo than the Argies.    

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Give me this on Wednesday. The Argentina-England friendly from 2005. Back in the good old days when leading international friendlies were available to me for free on Canadian TV. As was the Champions League. And FA Cup rounds. And World Cup and Euros qualifiers. And half a dozen live Premier League games every Saturday. Long before DAZN, futbol, beIN, etc. became a thing, none of which I'm willing to pay for. Outside of the World Cup, I watch 20% of the soccer I did 20 years ago.

 

 

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such a talented england team that won **** all.  tried to shoehorn lampard and gerrard into the same midfield and totally ignored the best playmaking midfielder the country ever produced: paul scholes.

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they dont have the team to beat spain.  they need a target man and a better midfield.  spain choked off the passing lanes and controlled midfield, the same as they did in the nations league.  there was no one there to alleviate the pressure and hold up the ball.  they needed giroux.

dechampes brought a team to beat morocco, argentina, or england. not spain.

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argentina will struggle against spain.  england have the kind of team that can beat them with harry kane at the top, bellingham in behind, and gordon running the wing.  

england's defense is weak, but spain dont have a number 9 to take advantage like mexico did.  or norway for that matter.

it will be an interesting match if its england.  i thinm spain will overwhelm argentina as long as the refs dont make it a lifetime achivement award for messi.

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I was busy yesterday, so I didn't watch the game until a later night rebroadcast of the game. I'm amazed how easy it was to not see any results until I watched it, so it was basically "live" to me. 

Hard to get terribly excited about the game for me, someone with no dog in the fight. Spain dominated and you just had a sense France wasn't going to get back into that game ever. But at 1-0, you hang on to watch for certain drama to unfold. Instead, we see a second goal and it was just one of those generic 2-0 games that Spain completely deserved and you felt like you just watched a ho-humm group stage game. I may have been better off, just  seeing the result so I wouldn't have felt so compelled to pour into the entire game. 

Obviously, either team winning wasn't going to shock me. But Spain is going to be mighty tough to beat if they keep this form in the finals. They gave up nothing.

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Brutal.  There’s no other way to describe what England must be feeling.  

Spain played perfect yesterday but it just feels like Argentina are destined to hoist the cup again.   Messi was unbelievable down the stretch yet again. 

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Sometimes you park the bus without seeing the tow away zone sign.  

It didn’t work but tactically I don’t think it was a horrible call. It worked in Azteca against Mexico in a similar situation albeit down to 10 men and the same in extra time with Norway.  Obviously, neither of those teams had Messi.  

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3 hours ago, Hongbit said:

On second thought..

 

The entire reason Tuchel was brought on to be the England manager was to get over the line where Gareth Southgate couldn't. 2018 WC semi-final, England leads Croatia 1-0 at halftime, sits back, loses 2-1 in extra time. 2021 Euro final, England leads Italy 1-0 at halftime, sits back, loses on penalties. 2024 Euro final, England ties it 1-1, lets foot after gas, Spain scores 2-1 winner in 87th minute. England didn't need a 2nd goal necessarily today but you can't sit back against Messi et al for half an hour, without any outlet for cleared balls. They needed fresh legs of a couple of forward substitutes like Rashford and/or Saka, gallop down the side now and then would have killed some minutes, not go with 6 defenders at the hydration break.

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20 hours ago, Hongbit said:

Brutal.  There’s no other way to describe what England must be feeling.  

Spain played perfect yesterday but it just feels like Argentina are destined to hoist the cup again.   Messi was unbelievable down the stretch yet again. 

At 39, this is probably Messi's best World Cup ever. He's been incredible the entire tournament. That cross pass on the second goal - perfection.

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2 minutes ago, romad1 said:

I realize this is the consolation game but France has **** the bed.  

slap in the face to deschamps to play like that in his last game. 

their weakness in midfield comes back to haunt them.  not that anyone really cares, its a bs game.

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