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I'm just disappointed that they didn't come with shorts. 😞

From a purely travel stand point, I don't think crossing the state line when you're that close is any big deal. I doubt there many, if any, fans who would say "I can live with the struggles of driving to get there if it was still in Illinois, but I refuse to go over the boarder!" I also think fans would be more willing to put up with all the struggles when it's just 8 or 9 events a year, vs. 81 games at Comiskey Park -- I mean U.S. Cellular Field -- I mean Guaranteed Rate Field -- I mean Rate Field. Having said all that, I still think it would be a bad idea and does look bad optically to leave your home state.

I was thinking similar things but there might be a few areas around there that wouldn't need MAJOR land "remodeling" for a stadium. Still, seems like it would be far from desirable.

Wolf Lake literally is bisected by the border of Indiana and Illinois. That said, I'm really curious where the potential site is. Looks like there's a lot of industrial area around there.

Look I don't want to seem like I'm defending the guy too much here, but he's quoting a legitimate local news station who is quoting a police detective's comments during court proceedings. That's not a "My source said he heard someone say..." I mean ideally journalists should fact check, but I think most people would assume that a police detective wouldn't be making comments in court about this if the detective hadn't checked them. I don't think it's unreasonable to assume a police detective is a believable source, especially when the accusation being made is simply that there's a link here... not that TA orchestrated or was involved directly in any way. In the end I 100% believe that he should have tried to reach out to the Lions or TA to get a statement. But I believe that these days 90% of "journalism" seems to be about getting the story out first, so I can't fault Florio anymore than I fault 90% of "journalism" these days.

That's not totally fair. Florio was reporting on a story by a Tampa Bay news station which was reporting what the detective in the case said about the men. Neither the local station nor Florio made up the possible connections. Both also have updated their stories with the statement by TA. You could argue maybe they should have checked with TA first, but in today "Gotta be first!" news cycle that wouldn't be the go to move, and Florio at least said it was "possible ties." The local news station said TA was "linked to two suspects."

As far as I can tell the house that the items were allegedly stolen from was rented by TA. The detective in the case also made the claims about the two men being TA's security guy and cousin. And of course we're just going on what everyone is saying right now. The Detective says they are these people, TA's person is saying they aren't. I'd guess that TA wouldn't say the "cousin" isn't a cousin if he is because that would be a pretty easy thing to prove one way or the other, but maybe he's like a 3rd or 4th cousin or something? Like I'd never say that someone I'm that distantly related to is "my cousin" but some might? The security guy might be something as simple as: "He was, but isn't anymore." Or it might be that the security guy claimed to be employed by TA to the detective, so the detective was just related what he heard??

But if the NFL's allegations are true (which they are claiming is supported by the evidence presented), the union was cherry picking to push a narrative. So if "everyone knows" that Owner A is a putz and they (that is the union) wants to further that idea, they'll cherry pick the player comments that support it. And if everyone knows that Owner B is a good person and again they want to prop up that idea, they can cherry pick what fits that story. In short: The NFL was saying the union was being fair and presenting all the data, just the data they wanted to present. Again, if true, I could see how the NFL wouldn't like that. There's certainly the ability for the union to extort certain things from certain owners if they really were being nefarious with this stuff. On the other hand I also think the NFL locked on to this bit because it paints the union's actions in a bad light. I don't, for a second, think the NFL would have been fine with the report cards if the union has just released all data.

An update on the linked story: UPDATE 11:58 a.m. ET: Fox 13 has added an editor’s note to its story. “A representative for Terrion Arnold responded and clarified that Hudson is not a security guard for Arnold, and that Williams is not Arnold’s cousin,” the note explains.

Hey, Tim's just presuming innocent until the guy is proven guilty. After all Pearce's Attorney said: "Mr. Pearce maintains his innocence and urges the public to understand that while allegations have the power to shape a narrative, that it is hardly the full, complete story. We look forward to vigorously defending our client and remain confident that he will continue contributing positively to both his team and the community he serves so well." So, ya know... don't rush to conclusions!!

Please not London! I wouldn't want the Lions to have to travel there every year.

Yes but... at what potential risk? Obviously it's gonna REALLY depend on the situation. Like let's pretend that Joseph's condition is so bad he can't play anymore... he's 25 right now and potentially could make many millions more if he got back to even 90% of what he was. We'll, then it's probably worth the risk of trying something not fully tested because it's not like he's got any NFL career left in our senario. But what he can still play, just may not quite as well as he was? Maybe he's down to 80% of his peak. He's still gonna make a LOT of money... not as much as 90 or 100% Joseph, but still a LOT. If he risks an untested procedure he might get back to 90 or 100% and make even more... or it might fail he goes down to 40 or 50% Joseph and ends up not being good enough to stay in the NFL. So yeah, it'll massively depend on the individual and their current condition. Now, having said that I read through the article that @gehringer_2 linked above and there's mention of some early phase clinical trials already underway with, I'm assuming, humans given that it references volunteers and lab animals don't generally volunteer. So I might be way off on how close this is to the market. Completely outside of the world of sports... I'm SUPER excited about this news as someone who already has some joint pain issues and some arthritis problems.

No particular special knowledge here, but I seriously doubt it. Generally stuff like this is experimental and needs more testing and refinement before it'll reach the masses. My guess is that it'll still be a few years at least before it's available to the public.

FWIW, I think most people who are fans of players who leave the team they root for usually say something to the effect of: "I wish him/her well, at least when he/she isn't playing against my team." Obviously it's not quite that simple because even if the Astros and Verlander only had success when they weren't playing against the Tigers, them winning still made it harder for the Tigers to get to the playoffs, but the sentiment seems to be: "Hey, I like this guy and I'm sorry to see him go. I hope he has success -- as long as that success doesn't hurt my team." In the end team fandom trumps player fandom.

Yeah, that's of course the big question... I mean good on the NFL for having new procedures/policies to try to address this. I've heard at least some talk that this doesn't do squat to help, usually without any real evidence. But that makes me wonder/panic a bit whether the NFL knows that this doesn't really do anything and they're just doing it more for show than to really help the players. Just to be abundantly clear: I have ZERO evidence of this being the case... just idle thoughts and random speculation. The NFL certainly seems to be caring much more about concussions and potential brain injuries and seems to be taking steps to try to improve player safety (concussion protocol, tackling changes, helmet options), so that's a good thing.

I think CTE/Brain dAmage is kinda like Climate Change these days... Most people acknowledge that it exists, but there's big questions with many different views about how big of a deal it is, how much the NFL is responsible, and what we should do about it. I don't think there's any question that the NFL knew about the brain damage dangers earlier and covered it up. I don't know how much they are or aren't trying to cover up information these days, but at the very least I think more people, including players, are aware of it. I also don't know how much what the NFL (and NCAA) are doing to try to minimize or prevent damage actually does prevent damage, or if it's just window dressing. At least they're trying I guess? At the very least I think players are going in more aware of the dangers here, which is a positive step.

While true I think you need to have a BIG asterisk on this point because I think the looming CBA fight is a big part of why teams aren't handing out super long contracts right now.

I tend to agree, though I still think 32 might be high given the way contracts/team control/arbitration is setup... I think the Tigers should have filed for something more in the range of 20-22 personally. Ultimately I think I actually like this ruling because I think the financial situation with baseball is broken and needs a serious overhaul... and I think this ruling adds more fuel to the fire. Had the Tigers won it would have been more of the same.

I'll have you know that the amount of respect due is very, very low.

I guess we'll see what tomorrow brings then. Or I supposed it might break like right before midnight today.

If I can stick my nose in where it maybe doesn't belong... So if the station is making $X on .1 and $Y on .2... where should they put the Tigers? It seems reasonable to saying that they'll get more viewers, and therefore make more money if the Tigers are on .1 -- There's still people won't understand or won't be able to figure out what .2 is all about and so won't see the games. So it's reasonable to say that $A > $B. Now it's just a question of how much more? If the station pre-empts normal programing on .1 with the Tigers, the expected change in revenue will be $A-$X. If the station pre-empts normal programing on .2 with the Tigers, the expected change is obviously $B-$Y. Let's throw some numbers in: X=10, Y=3, A=15, B=12. In this case they'll get a $5 boost putting it on .1, but a $9 boost by putting it on .2. It makes financial sense to use .2 here. However, if: X=10, Y=6, A=16, B=11... in this case putting it on .1 is a $6 boost while putting it on .2 is only a $5 boost. I think @chasfh is arguing that the Tigers will way out perform normal .1 programing and so it's a no-brainer that they should be there. Meanwhile I think @CMRivdogs is arguing that yeah... they will way out perform normal program, but it still might make more financial sense to put them on .2, even if that means slightly lower revenue directly from the games.

Totally agree. I'm talking more like if they were given an offer they couldn't refuse. But, I don't see teams given that offer either. It's possible if the Tiger's win that there may be some more teams willing to consider better offers, but I doubt there are too many out there that are willing to give up a lot of talent for 1 year of Skubal. It's also possible that if the Tigers lose they'd be winning to take less in return for Skubal to avoid having to pay $32M, but I also serious doubt. All in all I think whatever ruling comes out the likelihood of Skubal being traded will increase by the staggering amount of 0.25%

I don't there is any reasonable trade that would make the Tigers better this year... but that still doesn't mean a trade might not be the best option for the team. I'd be okay with them trading Skubal if it's the right deal... Heck, I even wanted a trade before. I just didn't want to see his last year (more or less) wasted in Detroit and then watch him walk away for nothing. Now with Valdez signed I'm at least a little more hopeful that we can make some waves in 2026 so I'm not quite on the trade him bandwagon.

Which always made me wonder why the Tigers didn't file at the 19.8 they offered or even bump it up to 20 or 21M. That pushes the line upwards and would make it more likely the arbitrator rules for the team. As @oblong pointed out, they don't need to file for $1 more than they think they can win at, so maybe they're just really confident the can win at $19M. It's just frustrating to me as a fan that there's this whole huge dynamic behind it in terms of how this will shape negotiations and labor deals and whatever beyond simply a guy I root for and the team I root for.

Steaming is way things are headed and as more and more people have grown up on that it will be accepted, and I have no problem with getting my baseball that way. My problem with Bally Sports/FanDuel (and probably with it through MLB as well) is the price point. When regional sports fees were in the $10 range they came out at $20 per month. That just seemed expensive.