MichiganCardinal

It's just the double standard for me.

Did the cuts have something to do with the tragedy? Maybe. There is certainly a connection to be made between the cuts and NWS failing spectacularly. That said, meteorology has been a speculative science for its entire existence. I don't think it's dispositive at all to say that sans the cuts, they get this right far enough in advance to save all those lives. 

The thing is though, if the shoe were on the other foot, and Biden or Harris were in office, even without the cuts this would have been falling squarely at their feet.

Trump is held to a different standard because he's a dangerous idiot with a cult backing.

Missing that first pitch changed the entire AB

I've added last year's games to my rankings of all the games in the Campbell era. Such a great season to end in such a disappointing way. It's getting fun to look back on all the games and memories we've had the fortune of experiencing in just the last four years.

Three additions to the top ten, and the first time I've put a loss above a win.

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Ranking Lions Games in Campbell Era

1. Rams @ Lions: Y3 01/14/2024 (W 24-23)
2. Buccaneers @ Lions: Y3 01/21/2024 (W 31-23)
3. Lions @ Chiefs: Y3 09/07/2023 (W 21-20)
4. Lions @ Vikings: Y3 12/24/2023 (W 30-24)
5. Lions @ Packers: Y2 01/08/2023 (W 20-16)
6. Vikings @ Lions: Y1 12/05/2021 (W 29-27)
7. Packers @ Lions: Y4 12/05/2024 (W 34-31)
8. Rams @ Lions: Y4 09/08/2024 (W 26-20 in OT)
9. Cardinals @ Lions: Y1 12/19/2021 (W 30-12)
10. Vikings @ Lions: Y4 01/05/2025 (W 31-9)
11. Packers @ Lions: Y2 11/06/2022 (W 15-9)
12. Lions @ Jets: Y2 12/18/2022 (W 20-17)
13. Lions @ Vikings: Y4 10/20/2024 (W 31-29)
14. Bears @ Lions: Y3 11/19/2023 (W 31-26)
15. Lions @ Packers: Y4 11/03/2024 (W 24-14)
16. Lions @ Packers: Y3 09/28/2023 (W 34-20)
17. Lions @ Chargers: Y3 11/12/2023 (W 41-38)
18. Vikings @ Lions: Y2 12/11/2022 (W 34-23)
19. Seahawks @ Lions: Y4 09/30/2024 (W 42-29)
20. Jaguars @ Lions: Y2 12/04/2022 (W 40-14)
21. Jaguars @ Lions: Y4 11/17/2024 (W 52-6)
22. Bears @ Lions: Y2 01/01/2023 (W 41-10)
23. Broncos @ Lions: Y3 12/16/2023 (W 42-17)
24. Lions @ Texans: Y4 11/10/2024 (W 26-23)
25. Bears @ Lions: Y4 11/28/2024 (W 23-20)
26. Lions @ Giants: Y2 11/20/2022 (W 31-18)
27. Lions @ Buccaneers: Y3 10/15/2023 (W 20-6)
28. Raiders @ Lions: Y3 10/30/2023 (W 26-14)
29. Lions @ Bears: Y2 11/13/2022 (W 31-30)
30. Commanders @ Lions: Y2 09/18/2022 (W 36-27)
31. Packers @ Lions: Y1 01/09/2022 (W 37-30)
32. Lions @ Cardinals: Y4 09/22/2024 (W 20-13)
33. Lions @ Colts: Y4 11/24/2024 (W 24-6)
34. Titans @ Lions: Y4 10/27/2024 (W 52-14)
35. Lions @ Bears: Y4 12/22/2024 (W 34-17)
36. Panthers @ Lions: Y3 10/08/2023 (W 42-24)
37. Vikings @ Lions: Y3 01/07/2024 (W 30-20)
38. Lions @ 49ers: Y4 12/30/2024 (W 40-34)
39. Falcons @ Lions: Y3 09/24/2023 (W 20-6)
40. Lions @ Saints: Y3 12/03/2023 (W 33-28)
41. Bills @ Lions: Y4 12/15/2024 (L 48-42)
42. Lions @ Cowboys: Y4 10/13/2024 (W 47-9)
43. Lions @ Rams: Y1 10/24/2021 (L 28-19)
44. Ravens @ Lions: Y1 09/26/2021 (L 19-17)
45. 49ers @ Lions: Y1 09/12/2021 (L 41-33)
46. Bills @ Lions: Y2 11/24/2022 (L 28-25)
47. Eagles @ Lions: Y2 09/11/2022 (L 38-35)
48. Lions @ Falcons: Y1 12/26/2021 (L 20-16)
49. Lions @ Browns: Y1 11/21/2021 (L 13-10)
50. Lions @ Vikings: Y1 10/10/2021 (L 19-17)
51. Lions @ Bears: Y1 10/03/2021 (L 24-14)
52. Lions @ Steelers: Y1 11/14/2021 (T 16-16)
53. Bears @ Lions: Y1 11/25/2021 (L 16-14)
54. Lions @ Cowboys: Y3 12/30/2023 (L 20-19)
55. Seahawks @ Lions: Y3 09/17/2023 (L 37-31 in OT)
56. Lions @ Broncos: Y1 12/12/2021 (L 38-10)
57. Lions @ Seahawks: Y1 01/02/2022 (L 51-29)
58. Dolphins @ Lions: Y2 10/30/2022 (L 31-27)
59. Lions @ Cowboys: Y2 10/23/2022 (L 24-6)
60. Lions @ Bears: Y3 12/10/2023 (L 28-13)
61. Seahawks @ Lions: Y2 10/02/2022 (L 48-45)
62. Lions @ Packers: Y1 09/20/2021 (L 35-17)
63. Bengals @ Lions: Y1 10/17/2021 (L 34-11)
64. Lions @ Vikings: Y2 09/25/2022 (L 28-24)
65. Lions @ Ravens: Y3 10/22/2023 (L 38-6)
66. Buccaneers @ Lions: Y4 09/15/2024 (L 20-16)
67. Eagles @ Lions: Y1 10/31/2021 (L 44-6)
68. Lions @ Panthers: Y2 12/24/2022 (L 37-23)
69. Lions @ Patriots: Y2 10/09/2022 (L 29-0)
70. Packers @ Lions: Y3 11/23/2023 (L 29-22)
71. Commanders @ Lions: Y4 01/18/2025 (L 45-31)
72. Lions @ 49ers: Y3 01/28/2024 (L 34-31)

I'm not going to claim to know how NFL contract negotiations go, but I am pretty confident in saying that the Bengals are the worst in the league at it.

4 hours ago, buddha said:

i do not make it sound like that at all.

no minor league system makes any money other than college football.  why?  because its tied to the universities that people have an affiliation with and it has 100+ years of tradition.

people arent going to watch high school kids play for the detroit panthers against the columbus cougars (maybe in texas...).  they will watch the michigan wolverines play the ohio state buckeyes.  without the universities involvement, no one will care.

Maybe 30 years ago this was true, and still today regarding your MAC and CUSA schools, but I think it’s probably fair to say that Michigan, Ohio State, Notre Dame, and most of the schools who are driving the new era of college football have more fans supporting them with eyes and money who have no real purely institutional connection. Today, kids just grew up in Royal Oak, Upper Arlington, or with a grandpa who went to Notre Dame, and chose a team based on that and them being consistently competitive, even if they end up going to Grand Valley, Toledo, Trine, or nowhere at all.

I think the real barrier to the NFL ever actually taking over college football comes in infrastructure, politics, and purpose. The NFL is not going to want to bear the startup cost of a new league, be it stadiums, salaries, or just general upkeep. They’ve got a good thing going with the NCAA to NFL pipeline and I doubt they’re keen to rock the boat too much.

If the NFL did want to chip away at the college football foothold (and they might in the next 5-10 years), I could see them taking a more MLB-like approach to recruitment, expanding both the draft and roster size while reducing or removing the eligibility requirements, to accommodate NFL team that wants to select players right out of, or shortly out of, high school. And then those kids would have the option of either accepting something of a “futures” deal with an NFL team, or going to college. I can’t imagine the list would be long of kids who NFL teams are willing to take at 18/19 years old, but it would give them the option of stealing a Bryce Underwood or Archie Manning from the college game.

I just don’t think the NFL has any intention of reinventing the wheel, when they’ve already got the greatest money-making league in American history and no signs of slowing.

If things go well in Pittsburgh, his teammates will be fine with him and defend him. If things don't go well though, he'll have loaded the gun the teammates use against him.

He's a prima donna whose best days are long past him, still relevant more for his stance on politics and antics than his talent. It's not a recipe for success.

The 2023 Dallas “loss” remains our last regular season road loss.

17 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

NFC Championship game against the 49ers. If the Lions don't make a Super Bowl, that is going to be a huge what if. It was there for the taking. They had a lead in the second half and looked the better team. A couple drops and a botched handoff did them in. 

A lot of those regular season losses don't really alter the franchise like losing that NFC Championship. Even beating Dallas in the playoffs in 2014, they likely lose to Seattle the next round but it at least gets the monkey off their back. 

Yep. The NFCCG pissed me off because the win was there on the tee for the taking. The Commanders game was fluky in how poorly the offense performed, but I take sad solace in knowing the Eagles would have put 55+ on our depleted defense in the NFCCG. The reality is it just wasn’t going to happen last year.

We should have been to the Super Bowl in 2024, and would have gone punch for punch with the Chiefs.

Not going to lie, kind of annoyed with Ragnow. Not for doing it, these guys go through hell and back. Can never blame a dude for stepping away.

But to do it in June? Come on man.

3 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said:

hi

(Not me but not far from me 😂)

11 minutes ago, romad1 said:

Somebody in the RF stands is just yelling "NEPO BABY!" 

hi

15 hours ago, buddha said:

https://sports.yahoo.com/college-football/article/with-college-sports-in-limbo-and-key-issues-coming-to-a-head-the-spotlight-is-on-the-sec-its-going-to-get-heated-130018106.html

basically college sports is going to be dead soon.

the sec and big ten are already in discussions to break away.  stuff we've been predicting for a while here.

the big ten and sec make the most money.  they dont want to keep subsidizing the other leagues and eventually they wont.  theyre already in talks with private equity firms to break away.  

people ask why the other leagues would allow the big ten and sec to run everything now so it benefits them?  because they could leave and form their own league and leave the other leagues with very little.

i wonder when notre dame will wise up and join up with the big ten?

I think we are kidding ourselves if we don't think college sports died sometime in the last 20 years. When that exactly happened is probably up for debate but this isn't our father's college sports anymore.

They're just finally getting around to burying the body.

We have Trey Hendrickson at home.

Lions have enough goal scorers, they don’t need a Shanahan. If anything they need a Chelios across from Lindstrom.

2 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Why are Lions fans so stressed out?    

This is a great team.    

 

I haven't seen a ton of stress, but I agree it's a great team. To the extent there is stress it might just be anxiety at the notion of "standing pat" this offseason. They replaced Carlton Davis with DJ Reed, Kevin Zeitler with a rookie (or Mahagony), and didn't (or haven't) really addressed the relative weakness at edge across from Hutchinson. They should be just as good as they were week one last season, but they aren't really much better. Granted of course that it is nearly impossible to improve on a 15-3 roster.

If 2025-2026 turns out how 2024-2025 did -- injury after devastating injury debilitating the team into a disappointing playoff exit -- it will ultimately be an equally disappointing finish. If they stay even relatively healthy though, there is no limit to how far this team can go.

I'm excited to see what this team can do. I am very doubtful they will match their 15-2 mark from last year, and October into November has the real chance to be panic-inducing for a fanbase that hasn't lost a ton of games in the last two years. Packers, Bears, Ravens, Browns, Bengals, Chiefs, Bucs, BYE, Vikings, Commanders, and Eagles is just a truly insane start. Those teams went a combined 105-65 last season, and if you take out the Browns and Bears it's an absurd 97-39... If they can escape that gauntlet at 7-4, they'll be in excellent shape to hit an on-ramp to finish the season against the Giants, Packers, Cowboys, Rams, Steelers, Vikings, and Bears.

I don't think it's even crazy to think they may come out of the first 11 weeks right around 0.500 and then finish the season 11-6 or 10-7 and be a wildcard team that absolutely no one wants to play.

Lions hat spotted in line to visit the Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris.

1 minute ago, Stanley70 said:

That would be an extreme violation of the no-turd policy. I'd rather try to trade for Mitch Trubisky or someone like that.

I think Kirk Cousins would the obvious replacement. But Goff isn’t going to get hurt anyway. 🙉🙉🙉

Just now, Motor City Sonics said:

Horrible What If scenario.    

 

What if Jared Goff got hurt in training camp..............and Aaron Rodgers was still out there? That would be horrifying to me.  

Good thing I’m not an admin because this kind of post would be worth like a week suspension in my book. 😆

16 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Same old Lions getting only two holiday games.

 

The players won’t like this.

The clock stops on a 1st down under two minutes in the UFL. He was definitely down with a second left. As long as he made the line to gain, the clock stops then and Michigan can call their last timeout before it restarts.

1 hour ago, TP_Fan said:

I honestly don’t care about trading draft picks if the player you traded them for hits.  Pickens went for a 3rd, yes, but the cowboys only get him for a year and he is diva, like every wide receiver not named st brown. No thanks on him. If Teslaa hits, then it’s worth the trade. 

The Cowboys trading for Pickens feels like the Bears trading for Claypool.

1 hour ago, buddha said:

i hope teslaa makes us all look stupid.

Just to put it on record, I'm a fan of the pick. Might even pick me up a TeSlaa jersey.

2 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I do care if they lose two seasons.  At my age, I don't want them to lose any seasons.  I think the argument about about large market teams dominating the game is overblown. People have been saying this my whole life, but the game has remained competitive and popular.   I don't think it's worth losing seasons.  That being said, I think a salary floor is more important to the health of the game than a salary cap.  I think teams slashing their budgets and not even attempting to win is a bigger problem  than teams spending more than everyone else.  

Fair. I was probably being a little hyperbolic, I'm sure I would care.

My overarching point is that the owners totally botched the 1994-95 lockout, and have been just punting the problem down the line ever since. The state of Major League Baseball right now is that you have five teams (NYY, NYM, LAD, PHI, and TOR) that make up about 30% of the total market space in the league. On the other end of the spectrum, you have a handful of teams whose fanbases naturally want nothing to do with them right now because their ownership is a mess and either can't or won't spend like they need to (MIA, TB, OAK, COL, PIT, CIN - CWS and MIL as well to a certain extent as well). And then you have everyone else, who try as they might, will never spend with the upper echelon, and so has to just hope to have their farm system can knock it out of the park once every decade in order for them to make a run -- just for them to sell everyone and everything when it comes time to pay up.

I do think it's fixable, but it's going to take a significant change, and I can't imagine any real fix happening without losing a season. I'm not smart enough to know all the solutions that are necessary, but I'm sure it is some combination of a floor, a cap, and revenue sharing.

On 5/1/2025 at 11:31 AM, Motor City Sonics said:

But, I just have a strong feeling that we won't even have a season in 2027.   This upcoming CBA is going to be a war.  

I agree, and I would go a step further to say that I think the sport needs it. The owners need to enter the room and refuse to start negotiations without a salary cap. I don't care if they lose two seasons. They need to do it right.

The way it's heading with this pay-for-play nonsense, it's going to be the Yankees, Mets, and Dodgers in a revolving door the next 5-10 years with billion dollar payrolls. The smaller markets, along with the cheap-to-reasonable owners (and I include Chris in that category) need to band together and say enough is enough.

A year of only MiLB would also be a breath of fresh air. That's a more fun product to attend at a cheaper price.