MichiganCardinal

I don't think the offense can be said to run through the left guard, but I do think it speaks to how badly Jared Goff relies on having a healthy offensive line. If there is a single missing piece, he folds, which causes the entire offense to fold... When you're considering giving him an extension, you might as well sign the entire offensive line with him or you're screwed. As for the defense, Glenn has to shoulder some of the blame (for the third straight season), but Holmes does too. It bears repeating that the defensive weaknesses that are prevalent are not some new problem. This board was clamoring three weeks ago at the deadline for a pass rusher across from Hutchinson and for secondary help and Holmes didn't address either. 8-3 isn't time to even approach the panic button, but 8-5 isn't inconceivable at this point with road games against New Orleans and Chicago upcoming. At that point, I would be worried.

It’s not as if they played much better against the Chargers (at least on defense) or Raiders. That’s five weeks dating back to the Ravens. They’re lucky to be 3-2 in that stretch. Averaging 2.25 turnovers per week and giving up 27 points per game isn’t a recipe for success.

What team is this? Is it the one that went into Arrowhead and won, beat the Falcons and Panthers easily, and got the Packers booed off Lambeau? Or is it the one that’s had 11 turnovers in the last five games? That couldn’t get a stop to save their lives against the Chargers or Bears for most of the day? I’m not mad that we are 8-3 and I’m not mad we lost to the Packers. Going 6-0 in-division is almost as hard as going 17-0. But I don’t think it’s unfair to ask for four complete quarters on offense and defense.

I think the first quarter cost them the game.

Defense allowed 9 points after the first quarter and 6 of them came from that failed attempt.

The defense has to be better, but this loss is on the offense. Not going to win games turning the ball over like this.

I would have thought that was the Ravens though, or 56 minutes against the Bears. Alarm clock has been ringing.

To the defense’s credit, 9 points after the first quarter. A top five defense needs to put up more than 14 and not turn the ****ing ball over so damn much

I mean, they did basically this last week. Probably too much to ask against a better team with a real coach

If it was “just one of those game” I wouldn’t be upset. This is four in a row they’ve looked terrible.

I’m not sure what choice they had. All our backups suck.

Probably shouldn’t gift wrap opportunities in plus territory with this defense

Only a nine-point game and we’ve got momentum better change that

I don’t know why it feels like every Thanksgiving halftime show sucks. I go back to when Big Sean was more concerned with censoring himself than singing.

Each of the last two seasons someone got fired to wake up the team. Something has to happen to drive the push the playoffs or we will fall flat in the first round.

Jack Harlow > Quinn whatever

86 of the last 90 minutes of Lions football have been awful. And they didn’t exactly look great for the 60 before that. And looked dreadful the 60 before that. Gotta figure something out before the playoffs.

For as bad as the defense is they held them to 3 in the 2nd quarter. If the offense would figure it the **** out we’d be right there

The message just must be getting stale with the defense. The can the players who are reliable are just half assing it. Something has to give, and quickly.

Boo birds have arrived. They deserve them. Just bad football.

Wonder how Hooker’s recovery is coming

Absolutely bailed out by that flag

What’s frustrating most about the defense is that it’s the **** everyone saw coming. Fans included. They can’t get pressure from the other side of Hutch and they can’t cover other than Sutton. We knew this ****.

I think this one is toast. Needed a wake up call, they didn’t get it against Chicago because those bums managed to lose it for Detroit

I think Green Bay did too