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I want to see some good ole fashioned off the field legal drama where they get renamed to the Chicago Bears of Arlington Heights.

Wasn't Wood the one who came out and said he wasn't qualified for the job in his opening presser? Those comments are as much deflecting blame away from Martha Ford and himself for that disaster as it is throwing shade at Quinntricia. Throwing more garbage onto the dumpster fire that is bad things to say about Bob Quinn and Matt Patricia is easy. Taking accountability for your part in giving that dumpster fire free reign over your organization on the other hand........ Getting us the Draft in 2024 was cool. I know he's telling the media that he's lobbying for us to play the Chiefs in Germany next year to hold off on "hosting" an international game in 2025. Assuming that's a directive from Brad and Dan (it makes sense), that's also good. Stick to that.

Rams roster soon: QB Matthew Stafford, WR Cooper Kupp......... *end of list

I think he would cost himself a lot of money by doing this. Playing for the Lions in 2023 is his best chance of putting up Pro Bowl numbers and maximizing his next contract, whether in Detroit or elsewhere. If the Lions traded him to Carolina, where he is working with a first-time offensive coordinator and throwing to DJ Moore and...... *crickets*, would he be better off than with Ben Johnson and this offense that's been assembled around him? If he was traded to Indy, would he have a better season with Jim Bob Cooter and Michael Pittman? There's a difference between betting on yourself and making a rash decision... I do think the Lions (if actually exploring a QB) should be very transparent with Goff about such a possibility. If he said that he would demand a trade upon drafting one in the first round, I would take that into account. Not to say I wouldn't still consider it (if it was already on the table that is), but I might be more hesitant about Richardson or Hooker, for instance. I also don't think that's his personality at all. I could be wrong.

Holmes himself has said this. He used GM-talk to do it, and left all avenues open, but the Lions are factually in the market for a QB and don't want to be "sliding into home plate" next season. It could be Andy Dalton, or even theoretically re-signing Nate Sudfeld, but they are in the market for a QB, with only Goff under contract. I think that Goff's future performance is the lynchpin in the overarching quarterback discussion. If you could guarantee me today that Goff's performance in the final ten games of 22-23 is what can be expected of him for the next five years, you would be very hard pressed to find anyone but the most outlandish 97.1 caller who would still clamor for the Lions to take a QB at 6 unless they are in love with someone who is there. There is a very distinct possibility that we see a return to the mean out of Jared Goff. Not to say he should be run out of town with torches and pitchforks for playing poorly with a broken thumb (@McVay), but just to say he may not routinely be a Pro Bowl caliber QB year-in and year-out. Personally, I think Goff is a good-not-great NFL quarterback, who can play for long stretches at a time where he is great (as in the end of 2022), but is also prone to having long stretches of mediocrity. Not to speak for you MB (and correct me if I am wrong), but I think you are a little more favorable about him than me. And then I think there are others still out there (though I can't think of anyone on this board) that thinks the end of 2022 was a total anomaly, and Goff is due for a Wentz-like plummet in productivity. Ultimately though, the ones to make that determination are the ones who know him best - Holmes & Co. They scouted, drafted, and developed him, and have seen him at his best and at his worst. In my mind, if they determine that it is going to be best to move on after his contract is up, I am going to believe it is with good reason (and hope the reason doesn't rear its ugly head in the season).

I didn't see this yesterday. Sheesh.

I think there are a few scenarios that could see Anderson fall into their lap, but it does probably start with Chicago dropping out of the top six. It's probably unlikely that four QBs go in the top five, as I would expect at least one of them to just be hype (probably Levis), and/or the Richardson talk to just be smoke. That said, it could be three QBs plus Wilson and Carter, or three plus Skonronski and Wilson. I also wouldn't rule out the Lions moving up to get their guy if the Cardinals offer #3 for sale and it won't cost #18.

With a quality offseason, I disagree. As crazy as that sounds to anyone from this area or has rooted for this team for an extended time, the stars are aligning for the Lions to be as good as they've been in at least 30 years. The Lions can be "sold" to any free agent out there, IMO and there is no team in the NFC that scares me.

I agree it's possible someone treats him like Christian Kirk was treated last year, in which case I expect him to walk. I disagree with the insinuation that the Lions are not a true contender.

I don't think the draft will probably actually go as perfectly as I mocked, but those aren't that far off. Spotrac has Williams at 2/8 and Chark at 3/28... Wagner isn't on there, but he's still getting paid from LA and he's going to be 33.

Don't wake me up

My Mock Draft 3.1 1. Carolina Panthers (Trade w/ CHI): Bryce Young, QB, Alabama 2. Houston Texans: Anthony Richardson, QB, Florida 3. Tennessee Titans (Trade w/ ARI): CJ Stroud, QB, Ohio State 4. Indianapolis Colts: Peter Skoronski, OT/G, Northwestern 5. Seattle Seahawks (from DEN): Tyree Wilson, EDGE, Texas Tech 6. Detroit Lions (from LAR): Will Anderson, EDGE, Alabama 7. Las Vegas Raiders: Jalen Carter, DT, Georgia 8. Atlanta Falcons: Christian Gonzalez, CB, Oregon 9. Chicago Bears (Trade w/ CAR): Myles Murphy, EDGE, Clemson 10. Philadelphia Eagles: Joey Porter Jr., CB, Penn State 11. Arizona Cardinals (Trade w/ TEN): Devon Witherspoon, CB, Illinois 12. Houston Texans (from CLE): Quentin Johnston, WR, TCU 13. New York Jets: Paris Johnson, OT, Ohio State 14. New England Patriots: Tyler Steen, OT, Alabama 15. Green Bay Packers: Brian Branch, DB, Alabama 16. Washington Commanders: Michael Mayer, TE, Notre Dame 17. Pittsburgh Steelers: O’Cyrus Torrence, OG, Florida 18. Detroit Lions: Bijan Robinson, RB, Texas 19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Lukas Van Ness, EDGE, Iowa 20. Seattle Seahawks: Tuli Tuipuloto, EDGE, USC 21. Los Angeles Chargers: Calijah Kancey, DT, Pitt 22. Baltimore Ravens: Jaxon Smith-Njigba, WR, Ohio State 23. Minnesota Vikings: Will Levis, QB, Kentucky 24. Jacksonville Jaguars: Jordan Addison, WR, USC 25. New York Giants: Cedric Tillman, WR, Tennessee 26. Dallas Cowboys: Josh Downs, WR, North Carolina 27. Buffalo Bills: Dalton Kincaid, TE, Utah 28. Cincinnati Bengals: Jahmyr Gibbs, RB, Alabama 29. New Orleans Saints (from DEN thru SF): Isaiah Foskey, EDGE, Notre Dame 30. Indianapolis Colts (Trade w/ PHI): Hendon Hooker, QB, Tennessee 31. Kansas City Chiefs: Jaelyn Duncan, OT, Maryland Lions 2.18: Antonio Johnson, DB, Texas A&M 2.26: Bryan Bresee, DT, Clemson 3.18: Cody Mauch, OG, North Dakota State 3.28 (Trade w/ BUF for D'Andre Swift): Daiyan Henley, LB, Washington State 5.18: Andrei Iosivas, WR, Princeton 6.5 (from DEN): Jake Moody, K, Michigan 6.18: Max Duggan, QB, TCU Relevant Free Agency: Jamel Dean, CB (3/$50MM, $25MM guaranteed); Bobby Wagner, LB (1/$9MM, fully guaranteed); Andy Dalton, QB (1/$3MM, fully guaranteed) Relevant Re-signings: DJ Chark (2/$20MM, $10MM guaranteed); Jamaal Williams (2/$7.5MM, $5MM guaranteed) Relevant Release: Halapoulivaati Vaitai, OG; Romeo Okwara, EDGE Restructure: Jared Goff, QB

That contract should bring a smile to Mr. Goff's face.

I think they restructured him earlier this year to facilitate his release. The $59MM is guaranteed, but it's spread out through a couple void years in 2025 and 2026 and a lot is put in signing bonuses and guarantees. I could be off by a bit, but I think that a post-6/1 release would result in like $11MM against the cap this year and $14MM next year and then just $4MM or less in 25 and 26.

I don't think I let Stroud pass me unless Anderson or Wilson are also still on the board. Not saying I move up for him, but he's the one QB that would make me say "he's still here??" if he fell. That said, I agree. The ideal situation for the Lions sees four QBs go in the top five.

Henry is the Hummer H1. Reinvented the position. Couldn't fit in parking spots. Makes heads turn when he runs down the field... But his owner showed him off too much... Now he's got 150,000 miles, there is some body damage, and they're looking to upgrade. I'm not going to give up assets for a used Hummer H1 in his contract season when I could get my own Hummer H4 off the lot in April. I tried. 😂

I'm not a big movies guy but I went on a bit of a stretch last week when I had the week off. Cocaine Bear: I don't watch news much at all, and I don't have cable, so I actually hadn't even heard of it until I decided on a whim to go to the theater and picked it out. Going in based off of the title, I expected it to be hot trash. Based on that expectation, I was pleasantly surprised. It was uniquely funny and the plot worked (for me), without taking its asinine premise too far over the top. 7/10. Close: Independent French film, with English subtitles. More up my alley for films I typically like and it did not disappoint. Without spoiling it, the filmmakers made a bold choice that pulled it away from more stereotypical coming-of-age films, and I think it paid off more often than not. My only critique is with the ending and specifics would spoil. 8.5/10. A Knock at the Cabin: Saw this with my girlfriend. Her choice. Did not like it. I don't like very many (possibly any) scary movies that rely on jump scares, because I can usually predict them coming and I don't get the cheap thrill out of it. It gets some points for being a novel plot, but it was just very meh for me. 4/10. Oscar Winning Shorts: Saw these with my friends. Overall I really liked it, and I loved the concept of watching five short films instead of one long film. ADHD approved! LOL. Some were better than others, but there was a reason they all won Oscars. 8/10.

I will admit that the first thing I hate about Carr is his face. Very punchable.

Methinks they will regret this move. I don't think Carr is a good quarterback. Never have.

In fairness, I believe Kamara fell inexplicably in 2017. He was projected as a late 1st or early 2nd, similar to Gibbs right now. As buddha said, we have differences of opinion about Swift's durability. I think the fact that Jamaal Williams was able to break the franchise record for TDs in a season as RB2 speaks more to Swift's absence than it does Williams' presence (though Jamaal being the goalline back. I tend to agree about not re-signing workhorse running backs, but I think the way to do it is to draft your RB1 pretty high every 3-5 years or so. Maybe not always 1st round, but high enough that you're getting a playmaker like Kamara, CMC, Barkley, or DHen. Then when their rookie contract is up, let someone else pay them. Even if we put Swift in that group, the time to replace him probably is now, before his 4th season, with five picks in the first 85, and when Swift might still have some marginal trade value (3rd or 4th round pick maybe?). I wouldn't be thrilled with taking him at 6, but I would understand it if both Wilson and Anderson are off the board and trading down is not an option. There's not a lot of tremendous value elsewhere, and if he's the #1 guy on your big board, I get it... I am warming to Jahmyr Gibbs, and would probably be okay with a strategy of sitting at 18 and taking Bijan if he's there, Gibbs if he's not... I don't see that kind of difference maker in Charbonnet, McIntosh, Achane, et al.

The thing about Bijan Robinson is that he's more than your typical back. He sounds like an Alvin Kamara (in his prime... without the assaults...), that can run through between the tackles on first down and gain seven yards, and then motion to the slot and run a fly route for 40 yards on 2nd down. He's both the best runner and receiver in the draft. If there were clear better options, or if we only had the one first round pick, I think I would stay away too. But sometimes the "luxury" pick is what can put you over the top.

I don't think Bijan makes it to the Lions at 18, but I wouldn't put it past Holmes to move up and get him if he slides within striking range.

I definitely wouldn't rule out the Saints taking him at #29. Wouldn't be an ideal landing spot for Hooker, but the Saints really need a QB and probably don't have the resources to move up far enough for one of the top four.