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I know I do! Which reminds me, where did I say what happened in the video was OK?

The guy that was surrounded in the video was a protester? I thought he was just going about his regular daily business.

I think it's super important to know why these confrontations such as the one in the video happen. And I think the war is a huge part of it why it happened. So does NBC and PBS Newshour which spent resources reporting on such so their pocketbook says it's important and given they work on ratings free market etc

hi where did I say what happened in the video was OK?

Weird, not only does that NBC article not say it's antisemitism, it says it's the f'ing war. Which someone here's been arguing. NBC should stop trying to wiggle out of calling antisemitism antisemtism, and Esweig should be mocked for posting an article that says this

Simple question: where did I say what happened in the video is ok? Quote me and bold the money quote.

I think that confrontation in that video happened b/c of the war. As I've stated several times now, that type of confrontation wasn't happening before the war, and there are plethora of news articles explicitly saying that. If they were happening before the war, everyone here ignored it. I never said what happened in the video was OK like Holic attributed to me. To claim I did is pretty dishonest. If you cosign that, you're being dishonest too, above and beyond the bolded inference of my intentions.

Quite clear you misrepresented what I said. Also sweet snip

LOL wild interpretation, have fun with that **** hoss

No one is using anything as an out for racism Furthermore, no one would examine the events of Japanese internment not caring about Pearl Harbor.

I'll let you be on your own with that comparison. But to your initial question, I care. ETA - I think there's a misunderstanding - you said in both situations they are being targeted and actually on one of my situations there as a very huge decreasing in the targeting so it's not true that in both circumstances there's equal prevalence of targeting. And again, if pre-war and post war had equal target prevalence, why was did literally everyone here ignore it per-war?

This is an interesting comparison. I don't want to get pedantic and clearly it depends on what constitutes targeting, but I remember dozens of discussions on this forum at that time where people that posted here targeted Muslims/Arabs after 9/11 and I don't think they were necessarily rw nutjobs. The Ground Zero mosque fights we had in this forum come to mind instantly.

I think it's important b/c I contend that the shaming wouldn't be happening to nearly the extent it is right now if it weren't for the killing associated with the war.

It seems we're in agreement that there's a component of this is that is actions-related - you mentioned doing bad things and 9/11 - not necessarily 100% based on religion/ethnicity. I would contend that if there's no war going on (killing), there's no (or maybe way less?) shaming going on as portrayed in the video. If that shaming was going on pre-war, then we have a lot of people here who ignored it pre-war and are now castigating those they allege are currently ignoring what they themselves blissfully ignored until a few days ago.

Bring it holic

Like when I watch that video and see them chanting "shame" - I don't think they're chanting shame that he's Jewish, it's shame that apparently inherent in his Jewishness is that he supports Israel killing Palestinians. That's obviously really not a good or appropriate generalization to make regarding Jewish people (Trump does it all the time), but I think the distinction is important.

It feels to me that the hate isn't necessarily because of religion, it's because of killing. Maybe the distinction isn't super important but when I think "anti-semitism" I think it's hatred b/c they're Jewish, whereas I think what we're seeing here is happening b/c there's killing happening.

What criteria was used to categorize the people in the video as leftists?

I'll take Buck over the current incarnation of Gus Johnson 10 out of 10 times

Made me check if dogpile is still around and apparently it is!

That guy who Chas posted who said "PLUS all killers are stopped by good...." Many mass shooters kill themselves. He seems to be claiming that those mass shooters who take their own lives are "good".

Right after you let facts get in the way of your preferred social policy.

so wait - if the killer's victim is already dead, there's nothing good guys with guns can do?

LOL

Maybe I shouldn't have had any higher expectations of the folks that told me for decades the 2nd Amendment was awesome because they could stop a tyrannical government..... then they voted for a tyrannical government, did nothing to stop the tyranny, and also played coup errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr tourist at the capitol in order to try to keep the tyrannical government in power.