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I fell asleep 3 words earlier it was so boring

I think the goal is to throw out the administrative state altogether.

Old enough to remember when people asked if it's an insurrection why hasn't anyone been charged with it

old enough to remember hearing they weren't armed

personally I think debates are the worst and provide no insight into how one will govern. I only like them because they're a spectacle.

LOL Oh wow: https://www.npr.org/2019/11/07/777287610/judge-says-trump-must-pay-2-million-over-misuse-of-foundation-funds

Actually, the 2016 one..... my recollection is for some reason he skipped a republican primary debate which I don't remember why he did so. But instead he held a fundraiser-telethon type of thing for Veterans. Then I remember a lot of reporting coming out about how the money never got donated or something like that. Then I think it just got washed away with the torrent of news we had in those times. Anyone else recall this?

Trump did skip debates in both the 2016 primaries and 2020 general election.

Yep some of mine are family as well. One in particular spent 8 days in the hospital w/ COVID and believes he should have been there longer. Still won't get the vax b/c it's all apparently a huge worldwide scheme by Bill Gates. Can't even talk with him about how him getting it in his arm or not has no impact on whether Bill gets money. He also infected the rest of the family, the rest of which also are not vaccinated and they also still won't get vax'd but were totally fine with antibody infusion. Response when asked why not get vaxxed? "I've heard stories". My response: "Now you're a story being heard."

I know at least 15 people not vaccinated and every single one of them is a conservative Trumper (and their kids) or very into conspiracy theories.

Yep, he wasn't extreme enough on immigration for her.

Mitt's take is pretty ridiculous.

the vaccine doesn't work on the current variant?

cool story about the minimum wage chief

I totally agree, it's not going to be pretty.

well, it does qualify as a thing so yeah it is proof that Dems are in disarray! I saw a Maggie Habs tweet yesterday where she said that "people are saying" that Trump is mad at Desantis right now b/c Desantis won't commit to NOT Running in 2024.

Definitely possible, I think it might also not be particularly measurable - if someone gets the virus but doesn't become symptomatic (or is symptomatic for less time) then they'd be less contagious but we don't know a) how may asymptomatic folks are out there and b) whether they're asymptomatic b/c of the vaccine or the normal behavior of the virus.

Trump attacking Desantis.... Trump is running. Ugh

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I learned about the vaccines through work b/c I work in medical research. IT was December 2020 and they presented all 5 of the vaccines, which include Astra Zeneca and Sputnik in addition to the three we love currently. One measure of efficacy that WAS NOT reported in the research was "contracted" The metrics were hospitalization and death. I wrote about it on the old forum in December 2020. The N was 90k across all 5 vaccines at that time and the rates were 100%. Vaccines don't stop transmission of virus. It stops illness from the virus. Polio vaccine doesn't stop polio virus. It stops poliomyelitis.

Whenever I think of whether Trump is in-line with America, I think if his Helsinki presser w/ Putin. He distinctly didn't choose America there.

prolly one of those ten-flushers he used to talk about all the time many people are saying it was a perfect BM