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not sure why you're being so condescending with me still after this performance you just had, but whatever you already wasted your time bro I didn't have anything to do with it. Sadly, by quoting me, you also wasted my time with it. You seem to have no concern about wasting my time so I'm not feeling so compelled to provide a corresponding evaluation.

So yeah, it's a fair question to ask what you're trying to discuss with me since you literally started a discussion with me and then argued both sides of the discussion.

oh boy...... you in fact quoted the tweet I posted from lawboy. That is why we're chatting now. It's in the thread. the least you could do is be accurate about what is easily provable in this thread before stealing my schtick man

So you're on both sides of the coin. You get to argue he's to the left of his constituency, as quoted here, and also argue that he's only doing what his constituency would allow because negative partisanship is a thing - which you also did within the last 10 minutes. I'm not sure what you want to discuss with me. You literally have all of it covered. I guess since you've argued both arguments people should vote Democratic no matter what they and Manchin do.

This is just more of what was in the tweet. Doesn't matter what Manchin does, it's voters moral responsibility to vote for Democrats anyways. That's what this thread has been all day. The notion that voters owe anyone their votes is utterly ridiculous.... and also the pathway to defeat.

I guess every time polling is brought up by anyone we just mention negative partisanship now if we don't like the polling? Fuck if I would have known that I wouldn't have used the "hidden trump voters" approach to blowing up polls

ok I already responded to that so I guess you win because you repeated yourself?

but he voted for other Joe Biden's bills so is it a new thing?

my understanding is BBB polls quite well in WV

Yup.

I agree that there are other Democrats that are probably not in favor of it and let Manchin take the heat.

Hearing BBB is dead, Manchin said no on Fox News Sunday just now. 🤔 how can we get young ppl to vote for democrats?

https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1472266686921388038?t=dhbJZQT-yX34XEbv6H3bWg&s=19

Maybe a politician could do something to court their votes.

The right on this forum says the left loves Biden. You can either believe what the right on this forum says, or you can believe the truth.

Ross while reaping..... Ross while sowing

I'm sure in the right wing fact free zone no one will hold these fools accountable

Idk seems reasonable to me to not want to vote for this.

I will never understand conservatives that don't like Mitch McConnell. He's the piece of garbage.... you wish you had on your team. I wish Democrats fought like he does.

I think that's exactly what Bernie argues, that his stuff isn't extreme whatsoever

I remember ppl here saying "the left" loves Biden

and are clearly part of the news with the Jan6 committee.