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Pride of Detroit: 2023 NFL Draft rumor: Detroit Lions ‘really like’ Texas Tech EDGE Tyree Wilson From the article, via Matt Miller at ESPN.

Me too, but good for Kenny if they do make it. I think if they do make it all the way to the Cup it will be more to do with their two star players than anyone Kenny has added to the roster though.

This is a draft where there are several coveted QBs that teams will want to move up for and will thus, potentially create a bidding war with Arizona for the 3rd pick. If recent history is any indicator then I think it will take multiple 1sts to move up to 3 as that's what it has previously taken other teams. In 2016 the Browns traded the 2nd overall pick (turned into Carson Wentz) and a conditional 5th round pick to the Eagles for the 8th overall pick, as well as 3rd and 4th round picks in 2016 a first-round pick in 2017, and a second-round pick in 2018. So to move up from 8 to 2 the Eagles had to give up their current first, a future first, a third, a fourth, and a future second. I can't see the Cardinals wanting to settle for a whole lot less than what the Browns got in the Carson Wentz trade.

Do Kenny and Edmonton finally prove the haters wrong and make it out of the West this year? Is this the year McDavid and Draisaitl finally get to a Cup?

So then Brad Holmes is Sonny Weaver in Draft Day. I traded up but now I want my picks back. To me, the only reason I'm trading up is to get Will Anderson. I'm only doing it once I am certain Houston is taking a QB, which will likely be on draft night itself when their pick is announced. I would sit at #6 and miss out on trading up with Arizona then make the trade, only to watch Houston draft Will Anderson at #3. I think Jalen Carter, in another universe, might warrant a trade up to #3. But in this universe, my internal and uneducated speculation still believes he is off the Lions draft board.

I'm not trading up until I know what the Texans are doing at #2. There isn't a rock solid guarantee that they'll take a QB. They may wait until next year and enter into the Caleb Williams sweepstakes. I'm only trading up to #3 with Arizona if it is to get Will Anderson and the price is reasonable. I'm not giving up #6 and #18, which is what I think it will take to move up if past trades are any indicator. If the Texans pass on a QB and take Anderson then trading up to #3 and giving up whatever amount of draft capital will have been a waste.

Regarding CJ Stroud, I just believe this is the organization and front office doing their due diligence. I firmly believe they are not drafting a 1st round QB and are more than happy with Goff as their starter. I don't think they are taking Stroud but in the event he is there when they draft at 6, they want to know what they have in Stroud.

I'd be all in on getting Devin White, just as I was for getting Bobby Wagner and Lavonte David. I'd be willing to offer up either of our 2nd round picks for a 25 year old, stud LB. You only hope a guy you draft is as good as Devin White is. He's still only 25, so he'd likely have at least another 4-5 good seasons left.

Levi Onwuzurike is also a 0 Tech DT. He has played zero games for the Detroit Lions.

Great, so you hope that in the end, you get 3-4 years of a cheaper Jared Goff. At this point, I'll keep the proven commodity in Goff. I've wasted enough time in my life trying to run one QB out of town for the shiny, new object at QB. No need to do it twice. Goff's proven he can play at a high enough level to win playoff games and make a Super Bowl. No need to move on now.

Pardon me, but I don't know which thread to continue discussing the Clarence Thomas matter in. But is there any potential legal jeopardy facing Thomas for the luxury trips he accepted from the Republic donor or is this an ethical oversight on his part, but not something that rises to the level of illegality?

Outside of the OLineman they drafted, there isn't a redeeming thing about what Bob Quinn and Matt Patricia did. What a train wreck that era was. I agree though with MB, having only gotten a 5th for Okudah, I would have rather held onto him and waited to see what he could give us.

If we somehow, someway got Will Anderson at #6 I don't think I would care what Brad Holmes did for the rest of the draft. He could go Michael Mayer, Darnell Washington, Sam LaPorta, and any Tight End he wanted at #18 if he got Will Anderson without having to give up draft capital to do it.

What if the Lions have Will Levis #1 on their board, are you still feeling comfortable with them considering him?

I am asking this question as a former, long time Matt Stafford hater and someone who wanted the new, shinier, cheaper, rookie QB in here for the longest time. Now, I don't and am prepared to keep Jared Goff as our QB for the future. But what is the logic for drafting Anthony Richardson over another player that could start right away, and moving on from Goff? Is it solely based on he can run and has higher athletic upside that Goff? Does his running ability make him more appealing than a guy whose played like a top 7-8 QB in the league the past year and a half? If Richardson were a great pocket passer instead, but didn't have the athletic upside, would the pro-Richardson crowd still be interested in him then? I spent the better part of 4 years from 2017 through 2020 wanting to run Stafford out of town, only to watch him win a Super Bowl the very next year. For those that want Goff gone and Richardson in, isn't that enough of a lesson learned?

Agreed, a QB still being available will drive the price way up, as it did in 2016 when the Eagles went after Wentz and traded with the Browns.

In 2016 the Browns traded the 2nd overall pick (Carson Wentz) and a conditional 5th round pick to the Eagles for the 8th overall pick, as well as 3rd and 4th round picks in 2016 a first-round pick in 2017, and a second-round pick in 2018. So to move up from 8 to 2 the Eagles had to give up their current first, a future first, a third, a fourth, and a future second. The Lions aren't giving up much less to move up to 3 I don't think.

Would Arizona except less though knowing what we have?

I have a hard time believing we get the third pick from Arizona without giving up #18. If I were Arizona I wouldn't do it without getting #18 back out at minimum both seconds from Detroit.

Bridgewater, at the right price, is the perfect backup. More of a pocket passer, who himself runs off play action, is a great fit behind Goff to step in if he was to go down. You can at least attempt to win faces with Bridgewater versus a guy like Nate Sudfeld.

https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2023/3/3/23622661/2023-nfl-draft-detroit-lions-visit-tracker-combine-top-30-pro-day Pride of Detroit has the full list. it looks like they have also interviewed Sewell's little brother Noah which isn't a surprise. I'd love them to get one of Cambell or Sanders. I think they need a LB in the worst way as I don't share their confidence on Anzalone as the guy who can QB this defense and play consistent football for a full season. But if they pass on a LB in the first couple of rounds I'll give them the benefit of the doubt as with most moves they make.

Dave Birkett saying on 97.1 the Lions are having LB Drew Sanders from Arkansas in for one of their team visits next week. Sanders has the high athletic upside and RAS that this regime seems to really value.

Where do we think Holmes drafts a Linebacker in this years draft and any guesses as to who it might me?

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