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59% of Republicans supported the Muslim travel ban according to Politico. Are you suggesting that isn't xenophobic and Islamophobic?
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Politco: Poll: 6 in 10 GOP voters back Trump's Muslim ban A majority of the Republican base and Republican voters, 59% supported a Muslim travel ban. If you don't support people of the Muslim faith coming to this country legally or obtaining legal status then you don't get to claim you support legal immigration, no matter how you answer the Gallup questions.
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My point is that you cast the average Republican voter as being supportive of legal immigration, when they are not. They are supportive of legal immigration for white people and some Republican-leaning Hispanics from Cuba and Venezuela. They voted for Trump and the racist, xenophobic policies he tried implementing as President. They did so without making a distinction either. It wasn't as if a majority of the Republican base was going around saying the Muslim travel ban or immigration caps or English as the official language or Obama wasn't a citizen was bad. To the contrary, a majority of his base supported those things.
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Of course I am fixated on MAGA people. Donald Trump won 74,223,369 votes in 2020. He won 14,015,993 votes in the 2016 Republic Primary. These are not a fringe group or movement in America, they represent damn near half of the American electorate. I have routinely referenced xenophobic policies they support like the Muslim travel ban, immigration caps, ending birthright citizenship, walling off the border, English as the official language, the Birther movement against Obama and you just ignore all of that. The last President of the United States thought that the previous President of the United States was a Kenyan-born Muslim and an illegitimate citizen and President of the Untied States. A majority of his base agreed with him. A 2016 NBC News poll found that 72 percent of registered Republican voters hold doubts about the president's citizenship. According to the poll, eight in 10 Democrats agree that Obama was born in the U.S. Only 27 percent of Republicans agree with that statement; 41 percent disagree. How is that not racist and xenophobic against not only Obama, but African immigrants?
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You aren't arguing with what I wrote. Muslim travel and immigration ban, caps on immigration, the border wall, ending birthright citizenship, keeping Syrian refugees out and not allowing them a pathway to citizenship, English as the official language. None of that is supporting legal immigration, no matter how many Gallup polls you produce. That is based out of phobias, fears, and ignorance that people have of non-white, non-Christian people immigrants. If I poll 10 of my neighbors and 8 out of 10 think shoplifting is morally wrong, but 6 of the 8 have shoplifting on their record or will end up shoplifting in the future, then my poll is meaningless. It's the same thing with the immigration debate, the actions don't match the words. The policies supported by Trump and his supporters doesn't back up what the Gallup poll says.
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Quotes about immigration from Presidents of the United States . . . “Nearly all Americans have ancestors who braved the oceans – liberty-loving risk takers in search of an ideal – the largest voluntary migrations in recorded history… Immigration is not just a link to America’s past; it’s also a bridge to America’s future.” - George H.W. Bush “The land flourished because it was fed from so many sources–because it was nourished by so many cultures and traditions and peoples.” - Lyndon Johnson "They all have aids." - Donald Trump (Trump said in the oval office about Haitian immigrants)
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Do you really believe in your heart that Trump and a large majority of people in the MAGA movement that support him are are not racist or xenophobic? Do you really believe that some Gallup poll proves this? They supported a travel ban from Muslim-majority nations. They supported hard caps on legal immigration. They supported keeping Syrian and other refugees out. They supported ending birthright citizenship. They supported making English the official language. Why do you think that is? Anyone can tell Gallup or any polling firm whatever they want. If you vote for Trump and mirror his rhetoric, then you don't support immigration, legal or undocumented/illegal. Trump during the 2016 campaign on immigration . . .
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You can show me all the polling data you like. Policy action matters more than some poll question from Gallup. Also, from your poll 66% believe it should be decreased. Decreasing immigration doesn't sound very supportive of immigration. And what type of voter, what partisan affiliation of voter do you think should be decreased? You know the answer to that question. MAGA and the Republicans. When MAGA had powered the facts are . . . 1. They and the President implemented a ban on people coming and traveling to America from several Muslim-majority countries. 2. They and the President worked on walling America off with a giant border wall and militarizing the border by sending troops down to the Southern Border. 3. They and the President supported capping the number of refugees we would take from Syria and other parts of the world. 4 They and the President supported making English the national language and routinely criticize people who don't speak English. 5. They spent a decade telling us Barak Obama was a Kenyan-born Muslim who was an illegal citizen and illegitimate President. Guess who funded and spearheaded the Birther Movement, Donald Trump, the President of the United States. These are tangible, real life policy goals of the MAGA movement and President Donald Trump. They want to regale you with stories of how their white ancestors came here to this country but want to cut off the same opportunity to others. Running around and supporting a President who was cosplaying as George Wallace isn't supporting immigration, no matter how many Gallup polls you can produce. It's stone cold xenophobia and racism and the policies they supported and rhetoric they used bared this out, not any conjecture or opining on my part.
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MAGA and many Republicans does not love the immigration story. They love the story of how their white ancestors came to America. Brown and blacked skinned immigrants and those non-Christian folks coming here legally are met with disdain on the right and in the MAGA movement. The this "THIS IS AMERICA, WE SPEAK ENGLISH AND ONE NATION UNDER GOD" MAGA crowd wants a walled-off, Soviet style border to anyone that isn't white. They want only white, Christian, God fearing people to be allowed in and people seeking to vote Republican from Cuba and Venezuela. Even then, they tell them to speak English because that's what we do in America. They want Muslims and people from Muslim-majority nations kept out of the country. What do you think all of those baseless Fox News, OAN, Newsmax, and Brietbart Caravan stories were all about? I remember in 2019 when Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib was first elected I went to her swearing in ceremony at River Rouge high school and the MAGA folks were out there (I remember there being about 20-25 people) decrying her election. I went out and chatted with some of the protestors and got the following general statements from the 5-6 people I talked with. First, Rashida is not an American citizen. Never mind the fact that Rashida and her siblings is a natural born citizen and born to parents who had themselves legal citizenship in America. Second, a Muslim shouldn't be elected to Congress and has no right serving in government. Three, how come she didn't have an American flag on stage and had a Palestinian one instead. Actually, she did have one on stage, I was in the auditorium, I know she did, I have the photographic proof that she did. Four, she swore in on the Quran and not the Bible. I remember her doing that, and so what that she did. One lady told me her and her husband wipe their ass with copies of the Quran when they use the bathroom. This same lady told me that she is of Ukrainian heritage but you don't see her wearing a pro-Ukrainian shirt or publicizing that she's Ukrainian-American. I remember in 2018 when Donald Trump said he prefers to be called a Nationalist. Trump was met with cheers and support on the right for referring to himself as a Nationalist. I remember in 2017 when President Trump was met with adoration by the right for his Muslim travel ban. I remember in 2009 when the MAGA and Tea Party crowd were out in force declaring that President Obama was Kenyan-born person and was not a citizen of the United States and thus an illegitimate President. This is who MAGA is and this is what they want. Denying that is denying reality. Take one look at the policies on immigration they have supported over the past decade or more. Take a look at the news stories and opinion pieces they run.
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We do need more legal immigrants here and we need to give those who are undocumented a fair pathway to citizenship. The trouble is, we have a significant number of people in one political party, the Republicans, running around trying to wall off the borders like a Soviet blockade and telling everyone "THIS IS AMERICA. WE SPEAK ENGLISH HERE. LEARN OR LEAVE." It's hard to pass real immigration reform as it is given the corporate influence for cheap labor over our immigration system. When you add in a bunch of doddering clowns using it as a culture war, that complicates things further politically.
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I think Adams is going where Rodgers goes. If he stays in Green Bay I think Adams stays. If he goes to Denver, Adams signs there. I wouldn't sign Adams to a big deal given that he's about to be on the wrong side of 30 and we aren't quite ready to win now.
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Covid 19 cases are higher in counties that went for Trump. Rates of morbid obesity, high blood pressure, and heart disease are higher in states that vote Republican. So speaking of diseased people, take a look at your party and the people who vote Republican. It's almost as if there is a correlation between poverty and poor health. And what are most southern states, impoverished and full of people in poor health.
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Boris Johnson had a SECOND PARTY it looks like during the Covid lockdown in the UK. His party, the Tories, are doing something Trump's never does, they are criticizing and skewering their own Prime Minister.
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Dan Campbell and Coaching Staff Discussion Thread
Mr.TaterSalad replied to Mr.TaterSalad's topic in Detroit Lions
I hope Holmes is smart with our cap space this year. We won't be a playoff team next year, so there is no need to blow through all the Cap Space we have. We will have Flowers coming off the books in a year I believe as well, so that will free up more cap space for the 2023 off season. -
2021 NFL Playoff Predictions..........
Mr.TaterSalad replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Lions
Congratulations Matt Stafford on finally getting to a Super Bowl! Well deserved! -
Who the did independent voters in Virginia think they were voting for in Youngkin? How many times do people have to learn that you can't run government like a business and that private sector experience often times translates poorly into running a service-based, non-profit, public sector entity?
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I understand you were outraged when Ronald Reagan promised to pick a woman during the 1980 campaign and appointed Justice O'Connor right? I'm sure you when around saying no men need apply.
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It's like turning in a research paper with only personal conjecture and no citations of fact or research to back any points made throughout the paper up. That's how he posts. "Ultra liberal CNN" and "What Biden's doing in China" and other bits of opinion with no merit or truth behind them.
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You provided no counter points or fact to any of what I brought up, didn't bother supporting your point with anything other than your conjecture in the first place, and then brought up another point about Biden and China while offering no facts and again ignoring the provable facts I point out. Keep standing by that conjecture though.
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https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/10/1/20891510/hunter-biden-burisma-ukraine-shokin Keep making things up and acting like you know what you're talking about. Viktor Shokin, the Prosecutor General in Ukraine, was accused of not being tough enough in fighting systemic corruption in the country. Western allies of Ukraine, including the Obama Administration at the time, wanted Shokin removed and a new Prosecutor General, who would be tougher on anti-corruption measures, installed in as Prosecutor General. Shokin was accused of not moving fast enough into corruption and bribery investigations around Zlochevsky and Burisma. The US DOJ and Obama Administration were considering bringing charges against Burisma themselves. So when Biden delivered the message that the US and other western allies wanted Shokin gone as Prosecutor General, that wasn't exactly a message that would have helped Hunter out. Of course you ignore all that and continue to defend Grifter in Chief Donald Trump who himself and with the assistance of those in his personal network solicited foreign agents and other governments to stay at and utilize Trump properties. You ignore the fact that White House Aid and Daughter to the President Ivanka Trump was seeking trademarks for her clothing and shoe line from the Chinese government while her father, the President of the United States, was negotiating with the Chinese government.
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THE MICHIGAN PANTHERS ARE BACK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mr.TaterSalad replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Lions
The USFL actually has a few notable name coaches. they have Mike Riley, Kevin Sumlin, and Todd Haley. Because this is Detroit though, we hired the guy who is guaranteed to take us to 7-9/8-8. -
THE MICHIGAN PANTHERS ARE BACK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Same Old Panthers! -
THE MICHIGAN PANTHERS ARE BACK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mr.TaterSalad replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Lions
We're going 7-9, great! One mediocre team in Detroit was enough. -
While I believe this team is devoid of talent, another good draft combined with a solid free agency, developing the talent they do have, and Aaron Rodgers leaving the NFC North could give them a chance to leap up to the 6-7 win territory next year.