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3 hours ago, LongLiveMaroth said:

32-year-old Pierce Johnson is a good comp to 34-year-old Cisnero albeit without the saves. Colorado got a 45,40 ( or 2 40's if you go with FG) prospect for him. 

if that is what Johnson brought back, then Cisnero should be moved for sure

SF has been on the road since the ASB; Detroit is 4th city, 11th game; won first 5; lost next 5; got swept by Nats; hopefully they are looking to get this over quickly playing in the rain

Rangers BP is so bad they would keep Mason in majors if Tigers returned him to Texas. The FB just isn’t there so unless they find an “injury” I think no loss in losing him

Bigbie HR

if you can get a young guy who fits the 2024 team better - like a RH CF or a good bat catcher - then moving him could make sense

Malloy has reverse splits so he is like another lefty - Greene, Carpenter, Baddoo, Malloy, P Meadows (and sometimes McKinstry)

wrong thread

Bigbie was great at WMI, and is going bonkers at Erie; SSS and unsustainable BABIP, but he just keeps hitting

this was the Andy Oliver case, where one agent tattled on Oliver that he had represented him in negotiation as a high schooler, but then he bolted (I think to Boras) as his "advisor". NCAA tried to suspend Oliver and he sued, basically saying he had a right to consult legal counsel as a 18-year old while dealing with a multi-billion dollar organization, and any NCAA rule to the contrary was void as against public policy. He won, not sure on what grounds. But like so much of what the NCAA did and does, the agent rule is bullcrap, and I doubt they would try to defend it in court again. The NCAA just does not want these kids to be empowered. It is a cruel and dumb rule.

crunching some numbers.

Tigers gave both McGonigle (CBP) and Rucker (4) exactly 123% of slot. (Diaz got 117%.)

I thought they would easily have extra money for 17th and 18th round guys, but Wilson was a huge splurge (over 750K more than slot), so maybe they just don't have enough to entice those 2.

Tigers have the biggest bonus in rounds: CBA, 12, and 15

not sure if Rogers got more than 150K in the 20th round, but that brings them to 1.0467% of pool - $52,110 still can be spent on Rogers or 17th or 18th round HS guys.

not sure they want to add another poor defender who hits LH, but Aranda of TB is 25 and killing it at AAA again with 1.000+ OPS and cannot get regular MLB at bats. acquire him, replacing Maton and the offense approves. Ibanez or Short as platoon and defensive partner.

1 hour ago, Edman85 said:

I also think pushing in and not cashing in on Michael Lorenzen at peak value would be regretted for years

and for once a player is actually peaking and is healthy at the right time, with an all-star appearance within 21.2 scoreless innings, AND there appears to be multiple buyers 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/07/astros-rays-showing-interest-in-michael-lorenzen.html

Michael Lorenzen is one of the top rental starting pitchers who could move between now and the August 1 trade deadline. The Rays and Astros are among the contending clubs that have shown interest in the Tigers’ righty, reports Jon Morosi of MLB.com (Twitter link).

Paul Wilson gets 1.7M; most they can offer McGonigle is $2,894,610 (slot is $2,309,500).

but a little bit of that 585,110K delta might be going to the late round HS guys

they are going to be very close to 105%

if you want Lorenzen and ERod on the 2024 Tigers, sign them as free agents this Winter

Manning for some (one) of their young batters?

no reason to think he won't sign; CBA picks so far: 2 others unsigned; 1 at slot; 4 under slot; Kevin, lets make it 2.5M OK?

4 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

KC hitters ABs suggest that they don't want to be at the ballpark today....

I was going to say same thing; shame on them

Harris has a chance to impress all of us with the return when he trades ERod and Lorenzen.

Owners want cost certainty

https://www.mlb.com/draft/tracker/2023/all/team/tigers

Tigers go overslot in rounds 4, 8, 11, 12, 13, 15.

Diaz HS pitcher with crazy backstory gets $247,500

11 hours ago, SeattleMike said:

Olsen for Norris: scouting acumen  or just dumb luck? 

perfect example of a nice win for Avila that somehow we can't give him credit for; it does not change the fact that he was overall really bad

Victor Caratini - but hard to platoon C based on other team's pitcher

the interwebs don't do nuance. Avila failed at everything! is the only HOT TAKE we are allowed.

seriously, Avila had some wins on his watch, probably more than he gets credit for, just not enough wins, not fast enough, not visible enough, and not enough to overcome his faceplant trades and free agents signings.

Tigers have about $2m in extra walking around money from the under slot deals and the 5% cushion; they have spent about 400k of that on 4th round 3B and 15th round juco catcher; looks like money will not be the hurdle if they don't sign all 21.