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2 minutes ago, Jim Cowan said:

I think Niko will be a useful 25th man on a good team in the NL that limits him to 250 PA's.

probably would be able to contribute more if used a lot less

6 minutes ago, bobrob2004 said:

What is the probability that Clemens makes his ML debut this year? 

high; he is 26 in May; so whatever he can learn in the minors, he learned; LH power is something they don't have much of, so there is a possible path for him

Niko gone; N Rodriguez, Robson off 40, down to Toledo; Clemens, DeJesus up to 40.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/11/niko-goodrum-elects-free-agency-tigers.html

3 hours ago, RandyMarsh said:

Since I just posted that horrific post lets make it up for a positive one. Once we sign Correa and when Tork and Riley put up ROY type seasons this is what our lineup could look like next year.

Greene

Correa

Candy

Tork

Miggy

Schoop

Grossman

Barnhart

Baddoo/Hill/Reyes/Cameron

That's a pretty damn good looking lineup, especially if Miggy hits like he did towards the end of the year and Baddoo turns out not to be a fluke. 

that's a lot of additional pressure on Greene and Tork right out of the gate, but not crazy to think they could get it done. maybe start with this.

Grossman (S)

Candy (S)

Correra (R)

Miggy (R)

Greene (L)

Schoop (R)

Tork (R)

Barnhart (L) / Haase (R)

Baddoo (L) / Hill (R)

2 weeks before owners lock players out, so if they cannot get anything else done soon, we are looking at 2 months of staring into the void

rather spend 25M on Story or Correa

40 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Wentz was lights out when the showed up at Erie in 2019. It was only a handful of games but he dominated so that got people charged up. In his come back from TJ he was putting up good BA against but still hadn't gotten his walk rate back down where it needs to be as the season ended. But command is the usually the last thing that comes back, so we'll see.

yep; this is how he finished 2019 with both Atl and Det

11 minutes ago, KL2 said:

Tork Did struggle a AAA

not really; his BABIP was oddly low

NBA got a cap on contract length years ago and then recently got another one pushed through.

does not sound like that is a core MLB issue, but possible that they ask for a 8 year cap which would impact Seagar and Correa if they don't sign pre-lock out

6 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

If the tradeoff is rushing Tork before they think he's ready, I can live with Schoop at 1B.  I don't think we're a playoff team next year, so it doesn't matter to me.  And if playing Schoop at 1B allows us to see what Paredes can do with some extended playing time, there is a benefit to that, as well.  As a reminder, Isaac is only 22 years old, so we should not be giving up on him prematurely.  

could also just leave Schoop at 2b, and get Parades (and Harold) ABs at all 4 infield spots until Tork is up

14 and 14 for the first 2 years? sounds good to me

Lorenzen could be a guy to look at; should not cost too much; he wants to start; has premium velocity; some seasons with interesting numbers; if he can't get it done, move him back to BP; and they could reassess Fulmer as well

 this is what I have been advocating for as well; players want certainty as well; give it ($$$) to them

Fenway numbers are worse than I thought: .380 BABIP!; home ERA 5.95; home FIP: 3.25

FG

Ben’s Take
Good pitching is hard to come by. You can’t always check every box, which is why teams will back up a truck full of money for Rodriguez despite his 4.74 ERA in 2021. He was wildly unlucky on batted balls, allowing the second-highest BABIP in baseball.

If you think Rodriguez will be less snakebitten next year, there’s a lot to like. Aside from a health scare that caused him to miss the 2020 season, he’s rarely missed a turn, making 31 starts this season and 34 in 2019. He doesn’t always give you great length — this year’s 31 starts covered only 157.2 innings — but turn a few more batted balls into outs, and the length could appear out of nowhere. Of the top 25 free agents, Rodriguez might be the least decorated — but he also might be the best bargain for a contender who believes in his peripherals.

Player Notes
Rodriguez missed the entire 2020 season due to myocarditis stemming from COVID-19 but came back to log 157.2 innings of roughly league-average run prevention in ‘21. His strikeout and walk rates were both career bests, however, and he ended up setting a career high in WAR as a result. A .363 BABIP allowed, in combination with a career-low 68.9% strand rate, oddly yielded a career-high ERA, despite everything else being seemingly very solid. A lot of these woes were mostly relegated to the first half, including a horrid May that saw him allow 24 runs in 29.2 innings; from August 1 through the end of the season, on the other hand, Rodriguez pitched to a 3.26 ERA and produced 1.7 WAR. Overall, Rodriguez isn’t a frontline starter, but he’s the type of pitcher who will do many things slightly better than league-average, culminating in a productive arm pretty much every season. At just 28, Rodriguez also has the distinction of being the youngest starting pitcher on our top 50, perhaps suggesting that he is among the likeliest candidates to receive a longer-term deal if he wants it, even though he may not be one of the flashiest names on this list.

6 minutes ago, Ancient Fan said:

I'm still on the fence. He gave up a lot of hits/inning last year which ballooned his ERA. Maybe someone can find the Red Sox range factor compared to the league last year to see if his defense was a little slow.

his ERA and BABIP were crazy high because of Fenway and the Red Sox D suxxed; his EV was very low; all the deeper metrics says he is better than his ERA 

if current system holds, Tigers forfeit their 3rd round pick (#85 or so).

5/77 to 5/80 per Passan, for age 29-33 seasons

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/11/tigers-nearing-deal-with-eduardo-rodriguez.html

tuned in late in thw 4th; never laughed so much during a football game in my life

no idea if this goes anywhere but nice to see

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/11/tigers-interested-in-jon-gray.html

Garrett Hill is an AFL Fall Star

https://www.mlb.com/news/detroit-tigers-fall-star-garrett-hill-enjoying-afl-success

23 minutes ago, 1776 said:

Regarding Verlander, I guess everyone saw that 15-20 teams watched him throw the other day. For better or worse, I don’t think he’ll be wearing a Tiger uniform next year. 

they will circle back to some of those MiL guys, but I assume they are done with Stewart.

Stewart is more talented than 98% of the world, but still not good enough. Baseball is hard.