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I think you take a mid to late round QB if you have a hunch. You have to be comfortable knowing you will miss on that hunch WAY more often than you hit and you can't take that risk very often, but if you can get Wilson or Prescott then it's clearly the correct decision. They are two of the very best.

Rodgers was frustrated with his receivers for most of the game. Aaron Jones was the leading receiver. He did throw 2 TDs to the WR he allegedly forced the team to trade for in the offseason. This game was proof that great QBs with a strong running game can be successful. The receivers did not look good at all. The longest pass was to Tonyan, a TE, for 33 yards. The longest pass to a WR was 12 yards. It also took a defensive TD and a muffed punt inside the 5 yard line (which they couldn't turn into a TD) to get 10 of the 24 points. They got the win because of one of the ugliest plays of the year by the Cardinals.

The end of that game was embarrassing. Coming out of a timeout with 12 seconds left down 3 around the 10 Murray throws the ball to AJ Green who doesn’t even turn around and the DB picks it off. Ridiculous.

Green Bay has been running the ball. Rodgers had 184 passing yards.

Somehow you list the 5% of QBs that work out yet plan on hitting in consecutive years! Meanwhile for 34 games the team will be without an absolute superstar at another position of need. Let’s go with pass rusher as that’s the second most valuable position. If you are comfortable just assuming the QBs taken will be worth multiple 1sts then it seems safe to assume they will nail the alternative. Why pass on a perennial pro bowl, all pro, and sure fire hall of fame pass rusher for a backup QB?

Everyone would select Dak with what we know now. That’s not how this works. And before we give the Cowboys too much credit, they didn’t even take him with their first 4th round pick! They almost didn’t even take him at all! ”After selecting Elliott early in the first, the Cowboys attempted to trade with multiple teams for another first round selection in order to draft quarterback Paxton Lynch.[76] They were unsuccessful in finding a trade and it wasn't until their second fourth round pick that they decided on a quarterback with Mississippi State's Dak Prescott being selected 135th overall.”

Arizona punt returner touched a punt then pretended like he didn’t and Green Bay recovered. How stupid are players? There are like 100 cameras and replay. Unreal.

I appreciate this post as it proves my point. Thank you. 1989 draft and 1st and 4th round picks are the examples. I don’t think anyone would mind if the Lions took a late round flyer on a QB in the same year they take one in the 1st.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/10/28/brett-favre-repays-600k-to-mississippi-still-owes-over-200k-in-interest/

Nobody drafts 1st round QBs in back-to-back years unless the first one is terrible for a reason. To get multiple 1st round picks in return for a player that player needs to prove they are a franchise QB for a white. That means they need to play, a lot and consistently well. So you will need to start the QB you want to trade, hoping that the backup you aren't playing will be as good or better, but you don't know because they don't play. And if you do this and it all happens to work out then you have to explain to the team/ownership/fanbase why you didn't play the better player all along! And the time you spent showcasing the lesser QB that you want to trade you have 1 less talented player on the roster because you spent that pick on a backup QB. GMs and coaches have to prove themselves yearly or risk losing their jobs, so they are not going to risk current success on a gamble like this.

Do you have an example of this working? The closest I can think of is Brees and Rivers and Brees was a free agent. It's a beautiful fantasy but in reality you end up with the Josh Rosen trade. Sure Kyler Murray seems to be working out, but they could have Kyler Murray and Minkah Fitzpatrick instead.

Or we take the QB and trade the one drafted in the first round the year before for pennies on the dollar. Throwing away 1st round draft picks is a sure fire way to stay terrible.

Justin Fields taking sacks like no other quarterback in the NFL 1st in sacks taken and 30th in pass attempts. Yikes.

I think that the Carolina offer was better but Stafford wouldn’t go there. The 8th pick this year is better than 2 future late 1sts and Goff.

I have no opinion on Pickett either way, I have honestly not heard of him before today but this seems pretty clear where that ball was going. It’s a little on the QB throwing the ball into this situation and it’s on the play design for having 2 receivers in the same area.

I don’t hate Goff. He’s exactly what I thought he’d be. Bad. But the WR group they are running out there is embarrassing. The defense is every bit as bad as expected as well having almost no talent in the back 7, or 8 technically since we insist on running a 3-4 with terrible LBs, but they’ve found a way to stop a couple of teams from scoring at will.

On the second clip it’s clear that he was throwing to the wide open receiver that sat in the zone and the receiver crossing in front actually broke up the play. Makes the whole analysis sort of lose its luster that he doesn’t notice that.

And 2 fumbles.

Also Justin Fields is making the Lions look right again.

Just saw Teez Tabor is playing safety for the Bears. That seemed like such an obvious choice given how slow he is.

That PI call is enough for me to switch over the the TB game. That was not even close to interference.

Travis Kelce is acting like a baby because he’s not getting the ticky-tack calls. Couldn’t happen to a better guy/team.

If they can just stay competitive then it will be fun to watch again.

And Columbus scores on the PP Detroit took for standing up for their player. Oh and Raymond went to the tunnel or locker room. Fun.

Another chickenshit boarding not being called. Why do they let guys get run from behind?