Betrayer

3 hours ago, Deleterious said:

 

Wizards, sure. Hawks aren't taking him over Sarr. Rockets have Sengun and need a PG, so I don't see that happening.

1 hour ago, Deleterious said:

Lets see if Minnesota doubles Jokic tonight.

He'd love that. 15 assist night incoming.

Did anyone see Draymond's comments on TNT after the game? Sure, everyone is talking about how Jokic used Gobert, but Draymond took it to cheap shot levels. To be expected from Dray I guess since he loves cheap shots in every form.

10 hours ago, Deleterious said:

Things changed fast in 12 hours.

 

These days it just seems like every "report" is linked back to some other article (referred to as a "source") where someone  else is just speculating on possibilities.

26 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

 

That's funny, because I'd rather trade Garland. Neither can play defense, but at least Mitchell can put the team on his back for a win or two. I guess nobody would want Garland's contract and that makes Mitchell easier to move with just one year (and a player option) left on his deal.

18 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

 

Game. Set. Match.

Joker is ridiculous right now (3rd quarter). Making Gobert eat that DPOY.

3 hours ago, Deleterious said:

 

I'd be ok with moving down and taking him.

2 hours ago, Deleterious said:

Can Sheppard play PG? I think I like him better there with his small size. 

Not as your primary PG, but he can be the secondary handler and also be the lead guard when your main guy goes to the bench. At least, that's what I'm hearing/reading from the scouting reports.

Of course, he'd have to guard the other team's PG on the other end due to his (lack of) size.

8 hours ago, buddha said:

there's a very good chance that shepphard is jimmer 2.0.

if that's the best we got in this draft, so be it.

This entire lottery is filled with dudes who could be busts. Who knows.

20 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

He can still turn it around.  But Giddey is a good example of why you want to see your young guys in the playoffs before you have to offer them big extensions.  

 

Giddy has been pretty bad in the playoffs. I was never a huge fan of him to start with though. Kinda felt like a slightly better version of Killian.

46 minutes ago, buddha said:

what's the difference between sasser and sheppard?

As Del said, his shooting percentage on high volume is nuts. A lot of those were taken from NBA range and he does it off the dribble, catch and shoot, and movement. He shot 60% at the rim even at his height and 50% on pull up 2s as well. The dude had a 70% TS! That’s nuts also. 

Also a solid passer and pick and roll player. All the tools to play next to Cade as a secondary scorer and creator and then run the offense against bench units when Cade rests. Probably not the primary guy, but good enough to run the second unit.

His defensive instincts are pretty awesome as well. It’s not just the steals, he also averaged nearly a block a game. Really good hands on defense and nose for the ball. He’s going to get exploited on switches for sure though due to his size. Maybe comp him to TJ McConnell (short, pesky defender with all around skills) with Klay’s shooting game if he reaches his ceiling.

Unfortunately, I doubt he makes it past Houston who needs this exact player.

Givoni reporting that Topic is ok. Just a sprained knee. That could be good for the Pistons of a team SAN wants him ahead of our pick. 

On 5/8/2024 at 2:32 PM, Betrayer said:

It's funny, I always hear about the guys in the draft who are "definitely a Heat guy" and I think, "well, why not just draft that guy?" It happened with Bam, Jovic to some extent, Jaquez, and now I'm hearing Devin Carter. 3 and D combo guard who is tough as nails, gets compared to Bruce Brown, and who's in the Heat mold? Sounds like a better fit next to Cade than Ivey already. He's 6'3" with a 6'7" wingspan, so yes, one of Ivey/Sasser/Grimes has to get moved, but let's be honest, we're all talking about doing that already.

Maybe test the waters on Jeremy Grant since Portland should want to get off that contract they signed before Lillard left. Do a pick swap, take on Jeremy's contract, send over Fournier's expiring, and maybe a young prospect like Sasser or Grimes. Portland gets a high pick to build alongside Scoot and they get free of Grant's money. Pistons add a starting caliber PF who can shoot and defend as well as a 22 year old 3 and D guard who can play next to Cade (or off the bench if you keep Ivey).

You still have Ivey/Duren as trade assets along with about 40M in free money to make trades and/or go after free agents such as Claxton/Hartenstein, Trent Jr, Oubre, etc.

Just spit-balling here because who knows what Portland wants to do with Jeremy, but Omari and Bryce discussed a trade for Grant where we gave up even less because it's essentially a "sin contract" right now.

Carter just set a combine record with the fastest 3/4 court time and measured a 42” vert. He could wind up in the top 10. 

1 hour ago, Deleterious said:

 

Bad for him. 

Also bad for us. Many mocks had him going to SAN. With him off the board that basically means we now have the #6 pick. 

In other news, Reed Sheppard just logged the largest Max Vertical (42”) in the combine. Even if he alligator-armed it to get a few extra inches, it’s still pretty impressive. I sneaky wanted him if we didn’t land Sarr, but it’s looking more and more like he won’t last to #5. Most likely Houston will get yet another player I wanted. 

2 hours ago, Deleterious said:

 

Why does this matter? The game clock isn't running anyway.

Are they just saying he uses that time to catch his breath or something?

1 hour ago, Deleterious said:

Anthony Edwards is why I don't draft based on shooting.

Me and Betrayer had multiple disagreements on Anthony Edwards when he entered the draft.  Betrayer loved him and said he should be the #1 pick.  I thought he would be a decent player but would not take him #1 based on him shooting 29% from three.  With the short line and bad competition in college, 29% is awful.  

Now Edwards is 22 years old and already a top 10 player.  He is crushing it in the playoffs and shoots 35% from three, which is respectable.  

Shooting should be in the mix when evaluating a player.  But I don't like when people say you absolutely have to draft a shooter.  

I don't recall this, but it sounds like something I would say 😄

After all, I'm the one who wanted Ivey even if we got the #2 pick because of the tantalizing upside of guys with athleticism. Now, I have his name in the trade machine more than any other Piston player.

The Lesson: The draft is a crap shoot. You can get Wiseman at #2 and Giannis at #15.

The only thing I can say for certain is that the Pistons haven't developed a pick since Tayshaun Prince. Time to look for a new player development team while you're out there looking for a new PoBo, GM, Head Coach, and scouting team. 

Crazy series, but a lot of fun. Everyone thought Denver was cooked - some were even calling it a sweep - when the Wolves went up 2-0.

Indy crushing NY today was interesting as well.

Missing out on Sarr sucks, but after #1 it's all kind of the same. We're essentially paying #5 pick money for a #2 pick. Same tier of player and mocks have all of these players going at various spots. There is no consensus.

You also have to look at who's in front of us. We could very well be looking at both Risacher and Matas both being available. 2 guys that you could argue we'd have been looking at if we were at #2-#4 as well.

I'm also going to give some serious consideration to Shepperd if he's there. Those shooting and defensive numbers are no joke. The guy's a 55/52/83 shooter with 3.5 stocks per game, which is absolutely nuts. He's also a good secondary playmaker. Yea, he's short and that's going to cause some matchup problem, but I'll take TJ McConnell with JJ Reddick's shooting any day.

By the way, Matas Buzelis is represented by Tellem.

Book it.

Pistons have moved down in the lottery 9 times. They moved up once, by one spot, to get Cade. We also fell from 1 to 5 twice in a row and no team has ever done that.

Spurs have moved up 5 times. They've never moved down.

I mean, we all knew the Spurs were moving up. After they were given Wemby last year the league needs to make sure he becomes the face of the league as fast as possible and you can’t do that on a bad team. 

12 hours ago, Deleterious said:

 

So he was interested in the job (which would be a promotion) and the Pistons were interested in interviewing him, but the Bucks said "no".

That's a sure sign of a place you don't want to work. When they actively try to stunt your career for their own gains, rather than encouraging you to fulfill your career journey even if it means an opportunity elsewhere. Not a company I'd want to work for.

Say what you will about Mitchell, the criticisms are all fair, but he's been absolutely carrying the Cavs this offseason, even on a bum knee. He's been making some absolute highlight reel shots left and right.

2 hours ago, Deleterious said:

Yeah, it depends if they want 100% cap space or not. We look good if it is.  But we don't even know for sure if they will trade him. But $300m in salary for a year is tough for a team like Minnesota.

It seemed much more likely they would move KAT when everyone thought they would flame out in the playoffs. The way they're playing now, they could very well win it all.

28 minutes ago, buddha said:

nba gave him 4 games.

will likely be appealed to 2.  oh david stern, how i miss thee.

Wow. What a joke. Silver is so soft.