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So, here are some of the contracts given out (rounded up): Keegan Murray - 28M/5yrs Christian Braun - 25M/5 yrs Dyson Daniels - 25M/4 yrs Jabari Smith Jr - 25M/4 yrs Shaedon Sharpe - 23M/4 yrs Toumani Camara - 21M/4 yrs If Duren was asking for 30M, that's laughable. I still think Murray got overpaid after trending down last year , but even so he didn't get 30M. Ignoring team/positional fit and just going off of player value, neither JD nor JI are clear upgrades on any of these players and I'd take a straight swap with no questions asked in many cases. Using this list, I'd value them in the 18-23M range depending on if either of them plays both ends of the court this year. If not, then they're bench players on a contender and I'm not interested in cracking 20M for that.
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10/22/25 8:00PM Pistons @ Bulls *Season Opener*
Betrayer replied to Tigeraholic1's topic in Detroit Pistons
He should just be the backup PG. It's so obvious, especially with no Ivey and probably no Sasser (although I'd play him over Sasser anyway). -
Good point. Get him on the phone. Ivey and Duren for Trey Murphy.
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RFA was always going to be the best way to handle this anyway. Not a lot of teams make offers on RFAs and so we can just let the market determine his value. A rim running Center who plays spotty defense (at best) and can't space the floor isn't going to command north of 30M on the market, even if he is a great rebounder.
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Agreed, and that's the saddest part about this injury for the Pistons. Him coming back and playing well was an important part of the trade strategy.
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Based upon their history of "re-evaluated" my guess is it's much longer. I highly doubt we see him before December and then they'll give it the "conditioning" tag for another couple weeks, followed by a "minutes restriction" tag. I'm not expecting to see Jaden in his full role until around game 30...just about 1 year from the date of his previous injury.
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So, if a 2-way wing gets 28M per year, do we offer 1/2 that to our 1-way guard and center from the same draft class? That's just simple math, right?
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Wow, so they're continuing to neuter defense. Terrible choice. Just what fans want, to watch more guys stand at the free throw line all game.
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First preseason game started out really rough. Turnover, turnover, turnover. Defense picked up in the second and they took over, hanging 50 points on the Grizz in that quarter alone. Cade - He's ready to start the season. I think he made every type of shot imaginable in just 1/2 of play. Ivey - People are saying Ivey looked "rusty". I'd buy that if he didn't just look like the same Jaden Ivey to me. Some exciting plays, but just as many terrible turnovers, passes that are too hot, bad off-ball defense and rotations, and dying on the first screen every time when he's on-ball defending. Harris - Looked like the solid vet he is. Thompson - He and Holland were a big part of the run in the second with their defense, but the offense is still a work in progress. Good to see they're giving him on-ball reps though. Great way to keep him on the floor even when he can't space the court. Holland - If that three ball remains at 33% or higher, that's a great jump for a 20 year old sophomore. It's the key to him and Ausar sharing the court and playing that "9 to 5" defense. Stew - Shot a couple threes in this one after saying that he's going to be shooting more of them this year. Pistons badly need a big that can space, especially in lineups with Ron and Ausar so this is key for the Pistons. Jenkins - I said it last year and I'll say it again: I'd rather have him as the 3rd string PG than trying to jam Sasser into that role. He's bigger, plays better defense, is a better driver, a better passer, and plays with more energy. Obviously Sasser is a better shooter, but Jenkins can knock down the open catch and shoot 3 where Sasser needs to do an NBA2K dribble move and step-back before taking his shot every time. Robinson - Looks like he'll be a solid Beasley replacement and offer better passing and rebounding along the way, while being just as terrible on defense. LeVert - Let's not talk about it.
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Trying to decide which I like less, him shooting more jumpers or him doing that messy Drummond dribble-drive thing he likes to do. If his defensive numbers weren't trash when Ausar wasn't on the court, now that would be something.
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Everyone loves the idea of Markkanen. Unfortunately the reality hasn't quite lived up to the hype (or the contract).
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I can imagine him sitting there wondering, "How can I make even more money with my cartoon character buffoonery? I know! Politics!"
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Adam Silver just commented a few days ago, "I'll only say the investigation is ongoing. As I understand it, there's still a federal investigation that's ongoing of Malik Beasley as well." All of this stuff on Malik's socials about how he's choosing between various suitors has always just felt like hype to increase his perceived value and make it seem like he's about to re-enter the league. Shell games from a con man. Pistons should stay away from this mess and I'm guessing most other teams will as well until the league makes an official statement to clear him.
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The rug is going to be pretty lumpy after they finish sweeping all this stuff under it. Tim Donaghy is still under there waiting for some friends to hang out with.
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Interesting. So it's all good either way. You make it, it counts towards your totals. You don't, it doesn't harm you in any way. Curious to see how it goes, but I think I like it. At the very least people won't be afraid to take those shots anymore.
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What happens if they make it? Do they not get the points added to their total?
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Probably the plan for hiding all the evidence and paying off the people they need to silence.
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Glad the Bulls are in our division.
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Good for him. Maybe he should pay his rent and his barber now. Either way, I don't see him coming back to Detroit: -He'd have to accept 7.2M where a few other teams could give him 14M. -Detroit has other players on larger contracts who will be expecting minutes (Robinson/Lavert) and returning players who will need more minutes than last year (Ivey, Thompson, Holland). -Even other teams who can offer him the same 7M make more sense because then he could get the 25-30 mpg he needs to prove his way into a bigger/longer contract next offseason. Here he won't get those minutes.
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The schedule is out. Tough first 5 games to start to the season. They could wind up 2-3 or even 1-4. Levels out a bit in the next 5 games. at Bulls - W at Rockets - L Celtics - Coin Toss Cavs - L Magic - L Mavericks (Mexico City) - Coin Toss at Grizzlies - Coin Toss Jazz - W at Nets (cup) - W at 76ers - Embiid Toss Could be as low as 3-7 or as high as 7-3. My guess is they wind up 5-5 .
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Going to laugh when fan voting puts him into the All-Star game even if he only plays 5 minutes a night during the season.
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As our 3rd string vet PG, I'd be fine with it. But Del's right, he really can't be counted on to play a lot so you're still really banking on Ivey becoming a better PG when Cade if off the court.
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Wait, he tore his achilles. So, they're paying him 14M next year to rehab and then another 28M for 2 years after that when he'll be trying to come back from an achilles tear at 36+ years old? Yea, that's going to work out well. Just give him the vet minimum to retire a Blazer.
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Neither were going to make 300 threes this year because Ivey's return will mean less shots, so that's not even a comparison that matters as you said. Regardless of that, it's an upgrade over Beasley for this coming year because Duncan gives you the same movement shooting and gravity while providing more in the other areas I've already mentioned - much better FT%, more size, better passing, higher IQ, better at moving off-ball, and a more efficient player. They're in the same tier of player, but Duncan is clearly the more complete player and size does matter in the NBA as well. I was so glad when the rumors about Schroeder leaving became reality. The fan base went into that Marvin Bagley and Simone Fontecchio world where they overvalue the contribution of a half-season rental because the alternatives (Sasser) were so bad. Let's be real about what Dennis was. He shot 30% from three and 37% from two, but that didn't stop him from chucking them up there. His eFG was a horrendous 44% and is 47% for his career. He's not a good defender although he flails around a lot to make him look like a try-hard. He's constantly exposed due to being a midget on the court. Not saying Lavert is a world-beater, but he has better size, shooting, defense, efficiency (crazy as that is to say), and shot creation. Would've been nice to get a backup 4, but anyone playing the backup PF minutes who isn't Fontecchio is going to be an upgrade, whether that's Holland, Ausar, or Stew.
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It's hilarious because they dug their own grave by trying to create a super-team that everyone could see wouldn't work. But, I'll give them some credit for owning it and just pulling the plug. At this point I'd do the same and happily lock up 10% of my cap to move on from this disaster.
