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If this is true, then there is very little hope for the future. This is terrible leadership, whether it's coming from Gores or somebody else. If it's coming from somebody else, Gores needs to get rid of them immediately.

At least we didn’t have to watch Livers and Wiseman.

I do feel bad for the players. They are playing harder than most NBA teams play on a nightly basis and desperately trying to break this streak but it doesn't matter. The Pistons just don't have good enough players. Cade getting some garbage time stats.

Not sure how we are going to break this streak. We get blown out by good teams and usually hover around a 10 point deficit against average teams before they pull away late. Weaver should be fired immediately.

Yep. I don't even feel like we are close to winning games. We trail almost the entire game every time I watch.

I don't see Bogey's trade value being much less now than it was last year. Their asking price was too high last year and the Pistons need to lower it but they should be able to get equal or close to what they could have got last year. It's our young guys that I would be concerned about their value.

Yep. I don't watch a lot of NBA basketball outside of the Pistons but could never imagine an NBA team sinking this low.

Pistons 9-30 from three. Plus 20 turnovers. Ouch.

We just can't win a close game with these guards. Between their poor three point shooting and penchant for turning it over, it's really tough.

I really don't want to see Cade fail to close again. Not that Ivey is any better but we need to spread the wealth around a little bit in clutch situations.

Livers should not be out there. We need to break this losing streak. Monty subbing 5 for 5 is annoying. Keep Cade or Ivey out there in a game like this that we have a chance to win.

Seems like every time we get close, Ivey or Cade turns it over.

Nice to see Cade has a game like this in him.

Heard a Tiger fan mention they liked the idea of Justin Turner for the Tigers and I like that idea too if he can play third base everyday. Somehow managed a career high in plate appearances last year and a pretty clear upgrade over Vierling.

I would imagine Cade's trade value is still decent. Ivey's probably is not. Doubt Duren has enough to make me want to trade him either.

It’s probably time to drastically limit Thompson’s minutes to try and win a game. We are basically playing four on five when we are on offense. It definitely shouldn’t be Livers either. I’d go small with guys like Cade, Umude, Harris, Bojan, and Stewart at the forward positions. Open up some minutes in the backcourt for Ivey and Sasser. You can win regular season games in the nba with poor defense.

I just want to see a couple games where Ivey says f it and starts attacking every possession to draw fouls. I’ve kind of had it with Cade. I realize he is probably our best player but when you lose 21 strait and he is your go to guy, I’m thinking he is not as valuable as his stats would lead you to believe.

Probably what happens when the coach plays games with players minutes and roles.

I can't accept the Pistons are doomed as long as Gores owns the team because that is likely the rest of my life. Maybe we can get lucky with the next GM.

Gores really is at the root of this. I don’t know how a fan base gets rid of an owner but everything about him screams losing organization.

I don’t know who was clamoring for Livers but he has never been good. The other guys at least belong on an nba roster but somehow look like they don’t with Monty coaching them. We are bad but I think being historically bad falls on the coach.

Bogey is a nice player. Just going to take time to round into form. Monty might ruin him though. Livers does really suck.

Starting to get worried we might lose 30 strait. This is bad. I don't know what Monty did to this team but even the worst constructed NBA roster should be more competitive than this.

Cade played nearly a flawless half and then made two lazy passes late that led to his only two turnovers of the first half. Seems like an abnormal number of his turnovers are those cross court passes that get picked off. Still, nice to see him and Bojan sharing the load on offense and not have to watch Cade constantly fail trying to carry this team.

Amazing how much more pleasant it is to watch the Pistons play offense with Bojan out there. He takes a lot of pressure off Cade and Cade does not hesitate to defer to him and let him take over some of the playmaking. Might not make much of a difference in the win/loss column but at least they are tolerable to watch.