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Is Bagley hurt? I want to win this game and am not sure why we have to play Wiseman.

Wiseman is so bad. It is really just killing the Pistons that Cade and Ivey are not developing to their draft hype. Maybe it's just youth. Cade puts up some nice stats but man, they seem like low impact stats.

Sasser needs to SHOOT it. He's a good shooter. Can't just give us empty minutes all the time.

I'll say this for Ivey...he has been playing with a lot more urgency lately. Still not playing great but this is the hardest I have seen him play over a period of several games, including his time at Purdue. He just doesn't have a great feel for the game though. Mental errors and sloppy ball handling/passing are a continual problem.

I think the problem with the bench is more the big guys than the guards. Not that Sasser or Burks are that good but we can't get anything done with Wiseman in there, even if he is playing with starters.

Ausar needs to make it his mission to not let Thomas go off.

Pistons 1-6 from three and getting wide open looks. It's the NBA folks. When your two starting guards struggle to stay about 30% on three point shooting, you are not going to win a lot of games.

Monty just overthinks things. Should have taken Cade out with two fouls first instead of Bogey. Now Cade has to play soft on defense with the subs and the Nets immediately go on a mini spurt.

Glad Vecenie went on rant. It's good people not part of the Detroit media are bringing light that something is rotting inside this organization. Interesting take on Weaver doubling down on his mistakes. It seems spot on. The fact Killian is still around is insane. I don't hold Cade and Ivey too much against Weaver yet though. The Pistons can start exploring trades but it's too early to sell low on those guys. There may be an element of coaching and development that we should be more concerned about with those two.

If this is true, then there is very little hope for the future. This is terrible leadership, whether it's coming from Gores or somebody else. If it's coming from somebody else, Gores needs to get rid of them immediately.

At least we didn’t have to watch Livers and Wiseman.

I do feel bad for the players. They are playing harder than most NBA teams play on a nightly basis and desperately trying to break this streak but it doesn't matter. The Pistons just don't have good enough players. Cade getting some garbage time stats.

Not sure how we are going to break this streak. We get blown out by good teams and usually hover around a 10 point deficit against average teams before they pull away late. Weaver should be fired immediately.

Yep. I don't even feel like we are close to winning games. We trail almost the entire game every time I watch.

I don't see Bogey's trade value being much less now than it was last year. Their asking price was too high last year and the Pistons need to lower it but they should be able to get equal or close to what they could have got last year. It's our young guys that I would be concerned about their value.

Yep. I don't watch a lot of NBA basketball outside of the Pistons but could never imagine an NBA team sinking this low.

Pistons 9-30 from three. Plus 20 turnovers. Ouch.

We just can't win a close game with these guards. Between their poor three point shooting and penchant for turning it over, it's really tough.

I really don't want to see Cade fail to close again. Not that Ivey is any better but we need to spread the wealth around a little bit in clutch situations.

Livers should not be out there. We need to break this losing streak. Monty subbing 5 for 5 is annoying. Keep Cade or Ivey out there in a game like this that we have a chance to win.

Seems like every time we get close, Ivey or Cade turns it over.

Nice to see Cade has a game like this in him.

Heard a Tiger fan mention they liked the idea of Justin Turner for the Tigers and I like that idea too if he can play third base everyday. Somehow managed a career high in plate appearances last year and a pretty clear upgrade over Vierling.

I would imagine Cade's trade value is still decent. Ivey's probably is not. Doubt Duren has enough to make me want to trade him either.

It’s probably time to drastically limit Thompson’s minutes to try and win a game. We are basically playing four on five when we are on offense. It definitely shouldn’t be Livers either. I’d go small with guys like Cade, Umude, Harris, Bojan, and Stewart at the forward positions. Open up some minutes in the backcourt for Ivey and Sasser. You can win regular season games in the nba with poor defense.