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  1. 26 minutes ago, buddha said:

    what would they have to trade to get him?  robinson, holland and picks?  that wouldnt be enough to match salaries.  do they need to match salaries?

    and this is a pointless exercise, theyre not going to do anything else but overpay duren and stay below the tax.  they'll keep enough room to make a small deal at the deadline if something emerges.

    They want back the least amount of salary possible + picks.

    So lets say Watson wants $25 million this year.  The Pistons can take back $7.5 million more than they send out.  So now we're down to $17.5 million.  They have $3.7 million left on the MLE they could use to absorb salary.  So now you are down to $13.8 million that Detroit would have to send out for Watson.

    They could do Robinson + Holland like you said.  Holland makes $9.0 million.  Guarantee Robinson's contract for $4.8 million, and you have your $13.8 million you need to send out.  I would say no picks are needed in this deal.

    There are other ways to do it without Holland. They could guarantee Robinson's contract for $13.8 million and just trade him + a pick or two.  They could add Smith at $2.4 million then just guarantee Robinson for $11.4 million.  None of the Smith money is guaranteed so they could cut him instantly to save money.  They could include Smith + Lanier + Robinson guaranteed at $9.3 million.  Denver has 4 roster spots to fill, the cheap deals of Smith and Lanier might appeal to them.

    Now we would only be saving Denver about $10 million in salary.  But the luxury tax savings are why they make this move.  It would/should save them about $70 million in luxury tax payments, so $80 million total.  

    Of course the biggest hurdle might be convincing Watson to sign here.  He seems pretty set on going back home to Los Angeles.  

     

  2. What a joke.  They couldn't have told everyone two weeks before free agency that he isn't eligible for a trade?  Toronto is hosed.

    Reminds me of the Rozier situation.  He was under investigation for gambling but the league told nobody.  Miami trades for him, and he eventually gets suspended and Miami basically lost a draft pick.  

    If a player has a potential punishment pending, he should be ruled ineligible for trade until it's resolved.

     

  3. They brought in a bunch of shooting and somehow still didn't fix the spacing problem.

    As long as Ausar and Duren are on the court together, there will always be a spacing issue.  The defender guarding Ausar will simply ignore him and sag off to help on Cade and take away Duren's space.  

    Worse, the shooters they brought in are extremely one dimensional players.  They shoot and don't do much of anything else.  Collins can catch a lob for sure.  But none of them create for themselves or others.  None of them play a lick of defense.  None of them are pure scorers.  

    I'm still predicting a good regular season followed by some serious struggles in the playoffs.  If they are not a top 1 or 2 seed, they could be looking at a first round exit.  

  4. The reported price Washington is asking for AD. Butler, multiple first round picks, multiple first round swaps, and multiple second round picks. 

    That is a lot more than Washington have to to get him.  But Golden State needs him to get Lebron, supposedly. So Washington can ask for the moon. 

  5. 52 minutes ago, buddha said:

    why doesnt someone offer sheet him?  is he restricted?

    I think Brooklyn and Memphis are the only two teams with cap space left and both are under $10 million.  He was rumored to be looking for $25-$30 million AAV.

    There are a lot of reports the Clippers are trying to work out an S&T for him.

  6. Denver is in a rough spot.  5 spots to fill and $7 million from the 2nd apron?  Which means they are already in the luxury tax.  

    Bobby Marks was on a podcast recently.  He said if they waive Valancunas and signed Peyton Watson to a $25 million a year contract, his deal would cost them an extra $177 million in luxury tax penalties this year.  Just his deal, that doesn't count the other 4 spots they have to fill.  

     

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