Jimbo

I agree with most of you that the best strategy is for other teams to not know what you are thinking. If you make teams think you are willing to take a QB with the 6th pick because its the BPA on your board then a team will definitely try to trade with you. The Lions are just in a unique situation that they can easily take a QB with 6 because they have so many early picks. Although if a team offers you a good trade package, your good with trading back as well. This isn't just for the 6th pick, it can be for the whole draft as well with other QB's. Now for the whole Quinn situation. The biggest mistake was bringing him back for another year. It wasn't Quinn's fault that everyone knew they weren't taking a QB because everyone knew he was on the hot seat and you don't take a rookie QB when you have to win to keep your job. That was what I hated about the decision to keep him. When you have an early pick like that and an aging QB that isn't going to want to hang around for another rebuild. You move on. Now it all worked out because who knows if we would of ended up with the Holmes/Cambell combo. Although I remember it being right in the middle of COVID and doing a Zoom meeting during the draft with all my friends and just miserable with our situation because you never know when your going to have the opportunity to take a QB that early. That is also why teams might think Holmes will take a QB at 6. The plan is to not have this early a pick for a long time. Goff has been great but I don't think anyone thinks he is a top 5 or even a top 10 QB. He played great last year and I am good if they stick with him for a while although its pretty clear that he benefited from a great line. Which is OK because we have a great line. Although, if you think you can get one of those guys that are a top 10 QB on a rookie contract, you have to make that pick. Your in a great situation with Goff with two years left on his contract at a good price.

Biggest problem I have with Carter is the multiple issues. If it was just issue with racing that ended up in a fatal crash, or lying to the police (not sure how accurate that statement is), or having a bad pro day, or he's not dedicated to football. Its not one or two things, its the combined issues. For every Warren Sap or Randy Moss there is a Charles Rodgers. Luckily for the first time being a Lions fan I actually have full faith in our GM. So I am good with whatever the decision is. I actually would be excited if they drafted Carter because I am confident that they think it was just a string of bad luck and we got arguably the best player in the draft at 6.

They definitely got the QB wrong but Millen also thought like a fan. There are a bunch of insiders that said he wanted Ware over Williams but was only thinking how dominant our team would be with those 3 WRs. I definitely don't think you should decide now decisions based on past failures although you shouldn't have to go 3 WR's within the top 10 3 years in a row.

I feel like Holme's is doing a great job with having some flexibility (after free agent signings and restructuring) with this draft because I think when you do that it gives you the ability to have someone overpay if you trade down because they don't know what your going to do. They could go in so many different directions.

Thank you for the welcome. I am not saying that Chark and Williams are one for one (as for what exact WR spot or body type) although I do think Williams has the ability to stretch the field. Like Gehringer said, its up to the coaching staff to come up with plays. My whole point is that I think we have put a good amount of resources into the WR spot (either with draft capital or salary) and I don't think using the 6 draft spot on a WR or spending a ton of the cap is the best move. I don't think the WR is one of those positions that you keep on putting the most capital into. Maybe I just have PTSD from the Lions past. Now I also understand that if you trade down or the 18 pick and you have a WR that is 5-10 spots ahead of your current pick and its a value pick based on BPA then that is an OK pick. I just don't think there is a Chase or Calvin in this draft that makes sense at 6. Or trading a top pick for a known WR that has a high salary or is going to cost a lot in the future. TCU WR would be nice but later in the draft.

I understand that there is a concern with Chark leaving although isn't a good assumption that Williams takes his spot? Lets not forget that the Lions still had one of the best offenses when Chark wasn't playing. They definitely were better when he was healthy because he stretched the field. That is what you have to assume Williams will do. I understand that you want insurance because he hasn't shown anything yet but I don't think paying Chark or taking a WR at 6 is worth for insurance. Now 18 or later, I am good with. Also, there is also a possibility for a trade mid season or trade deadline if we need someone. I really like Johnson from TCU if there is a trade down or if he slips to 18, although 6 is too much for a team that hopefully got their guy in last years draft. My order of what we should do at 6 1. Anderson 2. Trade down 3. Carter (obviously with Holme's trust) 4. Wilson 5. Levis/Richardson 6. Murphy 7. Gonzalez/Witherspoon (whoever the Lions think is the best corner) Sorry, my first post and maybe this should be in the draft thread but there was talk with trading for a WR.