mtutiger

I think you can support deporting illegal immigrants without approving of sending them to El Salvador and South Sudan and Djibouti.

To be clear, knowing the nature of the Nayib Bukele and the El Salvadorean government, does keeping people up past the point of exhaustion, forcing them to kneel between the hours 2100 and 0600, striking them when they fall, and denying them bathroom access / allowing themselves to soil themselves seem out of character? You can guarantee to me that every single person in CECOT is not being treated this way?

To be clear, there are many more individuals that we have deported to CECOT beyond Kilmar Abrego Garcia. @GalagaGuy, does Garcia's counsel's statement seem out of line with what all CECOT deportees might be experiencing? Does that surprise you in any way shape or form given what we know about CECOT, Nayib Bukele or the current government of El Salvador?

If given the option of believing counsel for Kilmar Abrego Garcia or Nayib Bukele, tell me who you would believe

Speaking of advocacy, do you advocate for this kind of treatment?

Garcia, by virtue of being the one CECOT inmate that's been shipped back, has documented conditions in CECOT that are inhumane and cruel. The arguments about whatever trumped up charges this government has brought against him are beside the point. CECOT is a concentration camp and, apparently, our government is OK shipping people there. It is unacceptable

Regardless of feelings on Zohran Mamdani, like, wtf Sorry Cody, but I gave up my subscription to The Athletic because of this ****

The way this is going to mess with Medicaid is going to cause a lot of stress, and it will absolutely result in hospitals in rural areas closing. That's pretty much baked in. God have mercy on their souls, because I do not.

Again, having watched BJ operate in Chicago for a few years now, I'm going to take the way under on Mamdani being anywhere near as bad as BJ. Just an otherworldly incompetent politician.... Pritzker has had to bail his ass out so many times.

It's worth noting that AOC was about as vocally supportive as anybody of Joe Biden as the walls were caving in post-debate last year. So I think she's more of a team player than you are giving her credit for.

Cuomo's campaign and backers employed a ton of scare tactics against this guy over the past month or two and that resulted in *checks notes* Mamdani overachieving against the polls and ending up with a relatively comfortable win. I do not see how Eric Adams, potentially with a split field, makes up the math. Especially when Eric Adams is also a wildly unpopular figure who is tied to a wildly unpopular President.

You will get some messaging tonight from Eric Adams, as well as Trump's team, that they are eager to make this a race, but Mamdani's win was pretty strong here tonight, he's likely to end up getting well above 50% when RCV are tabulated, and in a place with the partisan breakdown that New York has, that's just hard to overcome, barring some other epochal change down the road.

I'm definitely not sure that all of Cuomo's voters automatically go to Mamdani, I'm sure he'll get some but not all. But the math for Cuomo to run as an independent, especially with Adams and Sliwa in the race, is also very very difficult. Brass tacks, Mamdani would likely get a majority (if not a significant majority) of Democratic voters in an overwhelming Democratic city, with multiple other candidates fighting over the rest. The math isn't mathing.

The math would be very very difficult for Adams in a three or four way race, especially given all of the baggage and that his approval rating is in the toilet with New Yorkers

This is actually the other reason why I don't get the Mamdani hate, despite whatever ideological misgivings one might have - the guy legitimately did embrace the D label throughout the campaign and was collaborative with other candidates in the race trying to build out a coalition to win. Cuomo, the establishment guy, didn't.... if anything, he showed outright disdain toward Democratic voters by just coasting on name recognition and phoning it in. Again, none of this is surprising.... and maybe there's a lesson here too that candidates absolutely can go *too far* in antagonizing their own voters while chasing middle ground

I don't think we should read too far into this result in regards to the Midterms and honestly think that they will find good candidates in a lot of different places to run and win that fit their districts. But I do think there's a lesson in Cuomo that's part tied in with the sleazy aspects, but also the fact that he was very emblematic of an "old guard" that is holding on and not allowing for the elevation of newer and younger candidates, regardless of ideology. That stuff has to stop... I think it's an underrated dynamic as to why people take such a dim view of the Democratic Party, even despite Trump's falling poll numbers.

I don't know what to expect from Mamdani as Mayor, but after having watched BJ in action up close for a couple of years, I'd take the way under on him being a bigger disaster than BJ.

The candidate that a lot of establishment figures (such as the NYT, Bill Clinton, others) backed was a literal sex pest who had to resign from his last job in disgrace... and who campaigned almost entirely on his last name and felt entitled to a job running a city that he didn't live in until 5 minutes ago. Mamdani is pretty far to the left of me, but even I would have ranked him over Cuomo if I lived in New York... he had no business being in this race except for his own personal reasons. (Sound familiar?)

Just an incredible failure....

I think we're in agreement, but would just add that it's pretty clear that Netanyahu played him like a fiddle... And that he didn't exactly hide the fact that he was playing him leading up to our intervention. Just makes it all the more frustrating.

Weak Weak Weak

He lies as be breathes, Exhibit 57754467

The content was bad, but I saw a clip of him from a debate in 2015 last night... he's clearly diminished