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2 hours ago, Dtrain72 said:

Bingo ^^^

Build a winner, and they will come.  Keep trotting Harvy out there, and become the egg man with egg on ya face.

Who do you suggest the Tigers replace Javy with? Harris may have wanted to but wasn't given the money to get a better replacement? He should quit? The Tigers have more problems than just a light hitting shortstop.

24 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

there are a lot things killing baseball for youth but the biggest is just that they don't play it, and that I think, is due largely to factors way beyond anyone in the sports control - namely low suburban housing density and small families. You need a bunch of kids closely matched in age to have any chance at a sand lot baseball culture - and it just doesn't exist in many places in the US today. I grew up in a city with lots of 4 kids to a household houses on 1/8 acre lots. We could raise 15 to 20 kids across only a couple of grades to play ball everyday after school. We had 4 diamonds at our Jr high, and 3 more within 1/2 mile of there. There were all full most days. Then we all grew up and played intramural and city league softball. That's where MLBs current fanbase came from. And I doubt that is ever coming back. So all they are left with is trying to make the game more of a spectacle (ie. the HR), to make it entertaining for people who don't have the experience based vicarious identification to what is happening on the field. But it will be a different kind of fan with a different kind of relation to what they are watching.

This is good. Yes, we could easily get two games going of kids our age group. Many times, we would sit and watch the big kids before they finished and we got the good field. Even as 10 to 12 year olds, there was still groups of 16 to 18 year olds playing. And with their generations having less children, there just doesn't seem to be as many kids who play baseball. I mean, kids can't even ride a bike without a helmet and kneepads. You think mommy is gonna let little Timmy get beaned by a 40 MPH pitch? Yeah, I don't think so. I'm such a boomer...

Wow;

11 minutes ago, kdog said:

 

It's almost...funny? How can any pitcher have such bad luck? One run in 9 innings is all the kid needed. This can be a problem going forward. If he thinks he has to be perfect with every pitch, he could start struggling. Can the kid hit? He couldn't be much worse than some of these " professional" hitters. 😅😅

5 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Problem is Harris didn't find a SS to fill the hole even knowing that the single most probable outcome of Javy's terrible 2023 would be a terrible 2024. Management by wishful thinking? And don't bother mentioning Kreidler, whose most probable outcome based on his history would be right were he is, the DL.

And Kreidler doesn't have much more offense. No, Harris was saddled with Javys contract when he got here. And we don't know the details of whether he wanted to cut him in the off-season. Maybe Chris didn't want to eat his contract. Maybe he just couldn't swing a deal for a replacement. We just...don't know.

That one run (so far) looks huge.

1 run. Just one 9th inning run. Just one. 

24 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

Wait... let me restate that:

Seriously... WTF?

Did Reese Olson not take a SHOWER or something like that? Is he stinking up the dugout? Did he put glue all over the bench and all the Tigers' players are pissed off at him?

What did he do that they keep giving him these F.U's and NOT scoring enough runs to give him one single ****ing WIN?!?!?!

Because he's pitching his ****ing mind out this year and has squat to show for it. How has he ****ed his teammates so badly that they are doing this to him every single game?

His ERA is down to 2.09. I've never seen such bad luck.

2 hours ago, theroundsquare said:

I personally don't understand the 6:40 start, either.  It's not like there aren't a bunch of people coming in from the suburbs.  The extra 20 minutes to get into the park made a big difference.

I think it's more of a money grab. No time for dinner at home? Oh...we have ALL kinds of food here. Just bring your credit card.

39 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

It's quite possible that the Tigers approach to hitting can't work for Javy and on the wrong side of 30 he can't change - so he's is caught between trying to be a good trooper and do what his coaches want him to do because they think it will help him, and the fact that he's a pure reaction hitter and has to just clear his head and swing away. Plus the reality that with that long swing he may have been doomed at 30 anyway as soon as he lost a few milliseconds off his reaction time, whether he wants to change or not.

I thought I never saw anyone swing as hard as Javy but then I saw Josh Bell last night. A LH Javy...only a much bigger guy.

With the pitch clock speeding up games, this 6:40 start time is way too early. These games being over by 9 PM suck. And a morning Sunday game? I hope the stadium is empty and nobody watches. It's just a huge money grab, just like those horrible uniforms.

1 hour ago, Tigerbomb13 said:

I just don’t get how someone can immediately fall off that quickly and steeply,  at the age of 30. Is he just unwilling to make changes? Did his vision go bad? It’s not like pitchers wouldn’t know that he could just get himself out on low and away breaking pitch and very single time until the last few years. 
 

How long do the Tigers wait before they eat tens of millions? It definitely looks like a sunken cost at this point. 

The Tigers only other SS options are just as bad on offense. And much worse on defense. Is there any teams out there that has a ML ready SS in the minors who's blocked at the ML level that needs pitching? We'll give them a choice or Manning, Mize or Flaherty. Olson and Skubal (and Jobe) should all be untouchable.

1 hour ago, casimir said:

Of course he's frustrated.  I have no doubt about that.  I just wonder if the frustration has been mounting upon the problem and making things worse for himself.

Hopefully, he busts out of that slump and hits a dozen Tork Bombs in the next 10 games or so. He's pretty hot right now, a 7 game hit streak? If we could get Riley and Torkelson hot at the same time, we may start being more consistent in scoring runs.

51 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Goff's contract is really a 3 year deal and seems front loaded.

 

Team or player option in that 4th year?

1 hour ago, RedRamage said:

Is he though? We really don't know anything about him. Now, there is a gigantic caveat here: The coaches do know him, at least significantly more than we as fans do. But even the coaches hasn't seen him in game in the NFL, and (hopefully) never will need to anytime soon. Add in that Hooker will be a very different style of player (more scrambling/mobility) and it would be potentially harder to transition to Hooker on the fly if we needed to.

In my humble opinion the best-case backup would be a QB who has a similar skill set as Goff does and has a track record of NFL experience. That's not Hooker.

Ultimately I'll defer to the Lions staff on this... they know him and the team far better than me so I'm not trying to say they should do X or Y or whatever. I'm just speculating: Hooker was a developmental guy who they could groom to replace Goff if they needed to. Now it's clear they don't need to or certainly don't intend to.

Hopefully, the Lions will be beating some teams so bad in the 4th quarter, we'll get to see Hooker.

5 hours ago, casimir said:

Still leading MLB in doubles, too.

So, wait, is it going to be like reverse Lent?  Is he going to going 40 straight games with a homer and that's how he is getting to 40?  He's got the first 2 games in a row down already.  It seems like that might be a record.

When he hit that home run last night, you could see all the frustration coming out in the bat flip. I really don't remember him doing that before. It was the longest homer of his career.

I read that the full NFL schedule is being released Wednesday night. I thought it was Thursday. Let's Go!!

1 hour ago, NYLion said:

The contract is a lot of money but Goff has earned it and what else can the Lions do really? This guy led the Lions, THE LIONS, to the NFC Championship game and probably the Superbowl if Reynolds fingers didn't magically turn into butter on that fateful day so he's well worth it and he might not even be a top 10 paid NFL QB in 2-3 years so it's all good with me. This is a market where Cousins, who is 6 years older than Goff, got 4 years $180m. QBs are getting that cheddah, fat stacks.

Exactly. Any time there's a group of Detroiters gathered, whether it's a baseball, hockey or basketball game, they chant his name. No way would the Lions not sign him. It was almost like the fans demanded it.

On 5/12/2024 at 12:46 PM, HeyAbbott said:

I think Rob Deer is too generous for Tork. I think where his career WAR is right now, Ray Oyler would be a better comparison.

Don Wert....lmao

2 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

Maeda, now Miller. Seems Foley is likely to be next. Were we talking about trading pitching for bats in another tread? Silly us.

Meada isn't hurt, he's got that respiratory virus. He'll be back in 10 days or so. Lucky us...

It really wouldn't surprise me if Manning gets dealt soon. Several (more?) teams need pitching. I hope we can find a team with a ML ready shortstop being blocked. Trade Javy and pick up most of his contract, if they must?

Shelby Miller on the IL. Beau Brieske up to take his spot.

3 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Curb your enthusiasm, it's Miami.   Barely a major league team. 

Good teams beat the teams they're supposed to. Even the Tigers, sometimes.

19 minutes ago, kdog said:

This past offseason was a bad free agent class. Guessing the Baez deal made them de-risk everything. Sign guys on the fringes and wait out/develop the hitting over the long term.

Pitching and 'defense' to prevent runs..hope and a prayer for offense until things are settled with various young players.

But we're still waiting on 2 or 3 more young guys. Another "evaluation" season in '25? Maybe in '26, too? How much longer will fans be patient? PS...don't ask Lions fans....lol

Just now, Tiger337 said:

He's got the will to win.  

Isn't he a character in Lord of the Rings? A distant relative? 😆