9/20/25 1:10PM Braves @ Tigers

[lordstanley]

Tigers lose, Guardians win, Jays lose, Yankees win, Red Sox win, Mariners win, Astros lose. A week and a day to go and it's now possible that the division winners could be NY Yankees (down 2), Cleveland (down 1) and Seattle (up 1). It is also still possible that the Tigers miss the playoffs while the Cincinnati Reds (down 1 for WC3) make the playoffs. 

Edited September 21 by lordstanley

[Tigermojo]

Seven teams for six spots.

[lordstanley]

3 hours ago, Tigermojo said:

Seven teams for six spots.

Yep, and four of those spots are available to the Tigers. AL Central and Wildcards #1, #2 and #3. So they have to beat out any one of Yankees (Tigers 2 back, Tigers have clinched tiebreaker win), Seattle (Tigers 1 back, Tigers have clinched tiebreaker loss), Boston (tied, Tigers will win tiebreaker unless swept in final series), Cleveland (Tigers 1 up, Tigers will lose tiebreaker unless sweep next series) or Houston (Tigers 1 up, Tigers have clinched tiebreaker). There's a real possibility of Detroit and Cleveland playing a 3rd series within 2+ weeks, in the wildcard round. With one being the #3 seed and the other being the #6 seed.

Edited September 21 by lordstanley

[papalawrence]

Cleveland just outscored Minnesota 20-2 in 3 games over 2 days. That's a true behind-whooping

[chasfh]

20 hours ago, tiger2022 said:

He inherited Skubal, Mize, Olson, Jobe, Greene, Torkelson, Meadows, Keith, Rogers, Dingler...not really that big of a mess.  Maybe Avila had terrible organizational skills but the talent that made the playoffs last year and the talent that is close this year was what Harris inherited.  

This post overrates how much Harris inherited from Avila. Harris basically saved Avila’s draft picks.

Mize was an often-injured underachiever. Jobe had just been drafted and hadn’t done anything yet. Riley was a rookie. Olson, Keith, and Dingler were all minor leaguers who hadn’t done anything yet. Meadows was an underachieving minor leaguer perpetually stuck in neutral. Tork was flailing like a fish washed up on the beach. Only Skubal was a finished product, and he basically developed himself outside Avila’s system.

Aso, keep in mind that Mize and Tork were consensus 1-1 picks, and Riley was the #5 overall consensus pick. So Avila ended up just taking the same guy everyone else would have taken anyway.

I will grant you Jackson Jobe was considered a way out there pick, but his development also belongs to Harris as well.

So, to the degree Avila’s draft picks are great contributors to our team, practically none of them were due to Avila’s drafting and development genius. It took Harris and his hires to turn them into as productive as major leaguers as they are. And even though these Avila’s picks are still in the system, Harris had to ****can a lot a lot of other Avila picks and signs.

[chasfh]

20 hours ago, tiger2022 said:

He inherited Skubal, Mize, Olson, Jobe, Greene, Torkelson, Meadows, Keith, Rogers, Dingler...not really that big of a mess.  Maybe Avila had terrible organizational skills but the talent that made the playoffs last year and the talent that is close this year was what Harris inherited.  

This post overrates how much Harris inherited from Avila. Harris basically saved Avila’s draft picks.

Mize was an often-injured underachiever. Jobe had just been drafted and hadn’t done anything yet. Riley was a rookie. Olson, Keith, and Dingler were all minor leaguers who hadn’t done anything yet. Meadows was an underachieving minor leaguer perpetually stuck in neutral. Tork was flailing like a fish washed up on the beach. Only Skubal was a finished product, and he basically developed himself outside Avila’s system.

Aso, keep in mind that Mize and Tork were consensus 1-1 picks, and Riley was the #5 overall consensus pick. So Avila ended up just taking the same guy everyone else would have taken anyway.

I will grant you Jackson Jobe was considered a way out there pick, but his development also belongs to Harris as well.

So, to the degree Avila’s draft picks are great contributors to our team, practically none of them were due to Avila’s drafting and development genius. It took Harris and his hires to turn them into as productive as major leaguers as they are. And even though these Avila’s picks are still in the system, Harris had to ****can a lot a lot of other Avila picks and signs.