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2 hours ago, 4hzglory said:

If it's that, I sure hope it's another team giving it to him or at worst case, we matched an offer sheet.  Like you have said, It seems completely silly to negotiate against yourself.  Offer 5/100-125 and tell him to go test the market.  If he comes back with an offer for 5/150 i'd likely match it, but if it's 5/180 or higher, I'd have a hard time doing it.  

I'm as down on Duren's playoff run as anybody but 5 years $100-125m is a major lowball offer. He'd easily get 5 years $150m on the open market even with his flaws. He was in line for something like 5 years $200m prior to the playoffs with him being an All Star and getting All NBA mention. I don't think his playoff performance in a relatively small sample size cut his potential contract in half. I think 5 years $150m is reasonable for all parties but would also understand if some wanted to move on from Duren completely.

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1 hour ago, NYLion said:

I'm as down on Duren's playoff run as anybody but 5 years $100-125m is a major lowball offer. He'd easily get 5 years $150m on the open market even with his flaws. He was in line for something like 5 years $200m prior to the playoffs with him being an All Star and getting All NBA mention. I don't think his playoff performance in a relatively small sample size cut his potential contract in half. I think 5 years $150m is reasonable for all parties but would also understand if some wanted to move on from Duren completely.

Which mythical team is giving him $30 million per?  

Only 2 or 3 teams have enough cap space to do that.  One of them being the Lakers and that only is true if they cut ties with LeBron completely.  If he retires, sure.  But if James plays basketball next year I find it hard to believer he wont be wearing purple and gold.

The Hawks could in theory get there.  But they have to cut ties with CJ and Kuminga to do it.  So I rate that as unlikely.  

That leaves Chicago and Brooklyn.  Nets have a center so unless they trade him, they are probably off the table.  Chicago is a legit threat with over $60 million in space to play with.  

One thing to remember, almost nobody signs offer sheets anymore.  Six players since 2019 have signed offer sheets, combined.  I don't think anyone has since 2023.  It is a bad way to acquire talent.

The big problem is, your cap space is tied up for the 48 hours Detroit decides if they want to match or not.  It actually could be longer if you agree to a deal on July 1st because you can't sign it until July 6th, then Detroit has until the 8th to decide if they match.  In a class that isn't great to begin with, it will be slim pickings on July 8th if Detroit matches.

The second reason nobody signs offer sheets is cost.  You almost always have to overpay the free agent to entice his current team not to match.  Overpaying for assets is rarely a good move.  

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If I'm Ausar, I don't engage the Pistons in extension talks until the Duren situation is settled.  

Ausdar was the better player in the playoffs by quite a wide margin.  He has the better future IMO.  If Detroit gives Duren $30million+ then why would Ausar entertain any offers below the max?  Which would start the first year at just over $40 million per.

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

So, I called YouTube TV about them adding WYMD-20 In Detroit. It doesn't sound like they will be. Does anyone know a streaming option? Does Xfinity or DirecTV carry it? I have 3 TVs and no antenna to get OTA.

Looks like Fubo and  DirectTV have it in Detroit.

Curious to see what local stations pick it up on the west side.  We're going to be out of the country the first three months of the year, so I guess it won't matter much for me.  

I'm the opposite of Duren.  Take the regular season off and show up for the playoffs.  

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56 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

Looks like Fubo and  DirectTV have it in Detroit.

Curious to see what local stations pick it up on the west side.  We're going to be out of the country the first three months of the year, so I guess it won't matter much for me.  

I'm the opposite of Duren.  Take the regular season off and show up for the playoffs.  

There may be not any playoffs for Detroit next season. With Boston and Indy healthy, it will tougher. And no sneaking up on teams as they rest their best players. This year was our chance. 

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