05/23/2026 4:00p EDT Detroit Tigers at Baltimore Orioles

[casimir]

[buddha]

guys, i'm beginning to think this team isnt very good.

[romad1]

If you were the team of hitting coaches for this team... maybe you should be shot into the sun.  

[casimir]

1 hour ago, buddha said:

guys, i'm beginning to think this team isnt very good.

The team is currently composed of a bunch of individuals with ranges of performances scoping out from their skill set as a middle point.  There’s a group of players performing below that middle point and there’s a group of players that have a middle point lower than where it was assumed to be and there’s a group of players in the both of those scenarios.  Ain’t good right now.

It kind of reminds me of the 2008 team that was going to score 1,000 runs.  Now, this current team wasn’t going to score 1,000 runs.  But it sure is t delivering on the preseason expectations.  The problem is that while there have been a slew of injuries, that variance doesn’t bridge the entirety of the gap between what should be and what currently is.

[gehringer_2]

2 minutes ago, casimir said:

The problem is that while there have been a slew of injuries, that variance doesn’t bridge the entirety of the gap between what should be and what currently is.

this is true. But to be fair, I think there is at least some synergy to hitting; as the number of dangerous hitters in a lineup falls, it gets easier for the opposing pitchers overall and I think that tends to make it tougher for the rest of the hitters as well. Or another way to put it is that unless you are Barry Bonds, it's tougher to be a good hitter on a bad hitting team.

[casimir]

6 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

this is true. But to be fair, I think there is at least some synergy to hitting; as the number of dangerous hitters in a lineup falls, it gets easier for the opposing pitchers overall and I think that tends to make it tougher for the rest of the hitters as well. Or another way to put it is that unless you are Barry Bonds, it's tougher to be a good hitter on a bad hitting team.

That’s fair, too.  That might explain part of Torkelson’s struggles, as an example.  He’s not a guy to build an offense around, but can helpful as a 6th hitter in the lineup.

The same is probably true with the defense.  Meadows’ injury creates heavier responsibility for both corners.  Probably a similar deal on the infield with Baez out.