buddha

at this point they will probably re-up ivey after the season because he will be really cheap to re-sign.

its why bobby grich isnt in.  voters tend to go with narrative and counting stats and peak value over guys who were consistently "very good" over their whole careers.

why is jack morris in the hall of fame and dave steib isnt?  or mark beuhrle?  narrative.  big game performances on the biggest stage.  not a steady accumulation of stats over a long period. 

whitaker gets in if there's a massive movement publicly to do it.  his peers have rejected him multiple times, they just dont consider him a star.

i like lou.  i want lou in, but he's still borderline for me because i'm more of a peak voter than a "compiler" voter.

6 hours ago, oblong said:

Whitaker did win the GG and Silver Slugger 3 years in a row.  His top 3 similar batters on BR are in the HOF, as are 6 of the 10.   The HOF is what the voters make of it and if a guy is better than others that are in there, and more importantly are still getting in there, he should make it.  There's no definitive standard.  Lou has a better case than Tram did.  

his HOF "political stats" are low.  his peak wasnt that high, he didnt win an mvp or ever finish in the top 10 voting, 3 gg's are not high profile and trammell has more, he didnt win any awards in the playoffs, he dropped out of the game after retiring, he is probably best known to most reporters as the guy who forgot his jersey for the all star game.

people dont remember lou whitaker.  trammell had a higher peak, was in the game after retirement, played short stop, was a top 10 mvp candidate 3 times, six time all star, was second in mvp in 87, was a world series mvp.

that **** matters in who gets into the hall of fame.  its why morris and trammell are in.  its why whitaker isnt.

swept the leafs for the first time since 96.

schedule loss tomorrow.

whitaker was never the best second baseman.  he was quiet.  he played in an after-thought media market.  he was never an mvp candidate.  he was a really good lefty bat in a park that made his power numbers look better.  

like everyone else here, i'd put him in because he was one of my favorites growing up, but he's not a lock by any means.  neither was trammell, the difference being trammell played a more glamorous position, stuck around the game longer, had a great playoffs where he was mvp, should have been the mvp in 87, and had more great seasons than whitaker did.

now dont get me started on jack morris, probably the least deserving non-friend of frankie frisch who was voted in this side of harold baines.

1 hour ago, tiger2022 said:

But the HOF is a joke anyway.  David Ortiz, failed PED test, is in the HOF but his roider teammate, Manny Ramirez, a much better hitter, isn't in there.  I think the Raiders should all be in there but it doesn't make sense how Ortiz, Bagwellz IRodriguez are in there but other roiders aren't.

david ortiz is in the hof because he was a red sox hero and the media loved him.  if manny was a fat POS like ortiz who laughed and made the media feel special, they would forget about the roids in 5 seconds.

just like they forgot about ortiz's positive test.  is ortiz still looking for the culprit who faked his test?  or is too busy recovering from getting shot in the bahamas?

15 hours ago, Tigermojo said:

Mize is a good #4 starter. In the playoffs you ideally want your 1, 2 maybe 3 starters getting most innings. Olson got hurt and Flaherty was struggling forcing Mize into a role he shouldn't have been in. 

the #1 overall pick in the draft turns out to be an ok #4 depth starter.  Not ideal.

that could easily be jackson jobe soon too.  pitchers are fragile.

35 minutes ago, lordstanley said:

 

panarin doesnt really fit for them right now.  do they need another small, skilled forward when you already have kane, debrincat, and raymond?

kadri too, and i dont want to touch that contract.

petersson has been discussed to death.  i'm not giving up much of anything of real value for that contract.

hamilton makes more sense as a second pair defenseman.  they can absorb the contract without any retention.  not sure if jersey will actually move him with hughes being hurt, or that they would move him to an eastern conference team.

unfortunately i could see them get stamkos just because of yzerman's relationship with him.  although stevie holds grudges and might be mad that stamkos turned them down a few years ago (blessing in disguise).

out of all the players they mentioned, stamkos or hamilton are probably the most likely to come here.  that said, if they do make a move, i bet its for faulk or a depth defenseman that wont cost them a #1 pick.

jordan poole has always been a joke.  a very expensive joke.

seider for norris.

one thing i know for sure, detroit is a better team than toronto.  

when detroit's first two forward lines are on the ice, i feel pretty confident.  when seider/ed are on, i feel pretty confident.

when i see our bottom pair on the ice, i get very very nervous.

detroit dominates ot.  seider manhandles the leafs defender, gives to larkin for the game winner.

sweep!

less than 10 minutes of ice time for asp.

at one end, the leafs crush seider in the detroit zone, back to the other end and rasmussen gently glides with the leaf defender behind the net.

YOURE 6'5, HIT SOMEBODY!

1 hour ago, Deleterious said:

 

"illness" is a euphemism for burger king.

bring on the chaos.

51 minutes ago, casimir said:

Good grief, can you imagine if they win the NCAAMBB tourney?

Let us not speak of such horrors.

27 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

Some owners are now suggesting a salary cap

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"told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

grrrr....were mad!  

6 hours ago, Tenacious D said:

It’s easy to forget about Jobe, but given the success rate of TJ, he should be a big part of what we do in ‘27.

just like casey mize!

53 minutes ago, casimir said:

Another point I heard today.  Florida is a basketball school and now Indiana is a football school.

dude, NEBRASKA is a basketball school...

and montreal wins it with 15 seconds left because OF COURSE THEY DO.  NO ONE IN THIS DIVISION EVER LOSES A GAME EVER!

one note on cossa, the fact that both goalies in gr have great stats might say more about gr's defense than the goalies.

but its a good problem to have, having a lot of goalie prospects.  i still think its possible augustine doesnt sign after this season and becomes a free agent.  we'll see.  hopefully not.

32 minutes ago, lordstanley said:

No. I'd rather give up two seconds than one first. 

me too, but we already gave up a second for gibson.

as much as sherwood would likely help them (assuming he's healthy), i think their resources will be better spent elsewhere if they choose to make a trade.  mbn seems like a guy who can handle the "heavy checking forward" role, and sherwood's production this year is highly inflated and not likely to continue.

they desperately need a second pair defenseman, if theyre going to give up a first or multiple seconds, it should be for that, if possible.

6 hours ago, Deleterious said:

 

so can the warriors back out of butler's contract the way butler backed out of his contract in miami?